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Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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Do you understand how this could benefit millions?

Explain, very specifically, how the prospect of Apple and IBM is benefitting you right now with an iPhone in terms of hardware, which is what this thread is about?

Apparently missed the first time around...
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Explain, very specifically, how the prospect of Apple and IBM is benefitting you right now with an iPhone in terms of hardware, which is what this thread is about?

Apparently missed the first time around...

Nope ignored it because the comment to me appeared to be shortsighted. So if an enhancement doesn't have an immediate benefit it should be ignored as a legitamate enhancement?
 

sc4rf4c3

macrumors regular
Oct 10, 2012
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So if an enhancement doesn't have an immediate benefit it should be ignored as a legitamate enhancement?

FFS, you argued with some members here regarding options that Samsung bring. You kept telling them that you don't need them and now you're welcoming enhancement because it's Apple. You don't even have a clue on what these enhancements are. Technarchy asked you twice how it would benefit you as an iPhone user and that's your response.
 

epicrayban

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Nov 7, 2014
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FFS, you argued with some members here regarding options that Samsung bring. You kept telling them that you don't need them and now you're welcoming enhancement because it's Apple. You don't even have a clue on what these enhancements are. Technarchy asked you twice how it would benefit you as an iPhone user and that's your response.

100,000% this. Give this man/woman a medal.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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100,000% this. Give this man/woman a medal.

Yep how many times has i7guy been exposed for his nonsense now?

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FFS, you argued with some members here regarding options that Samsung bring. You kept telling them that you don't need them and now you're welcoming enhancement because it's Apple. You don't even have a clue on what these enhancements are. Technarchy asked you twice how it would benefit you as an iPhone user and that's your response.


Amen tell it like it is!!! He has been exposed again for contradictory comments!!!!
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
FFS, you argued with some members here regarding options that Samsung bring. You kept telling them that you don't need them and now you're welcoming enhancement because it's Apple. You don't even have a clue on what these enhancements are. Technarchy asked you twice how it would benefit you as an iPhone user and that's your response.

You guys can't have it both ways.

You can't say Apple is behind and then when presented with an enhancement that is far reaching claim this nonsense because there is no immediate benefit to you.

I know exactly what and why as I'm in that area but I'm declining to give an opinion. You are welcome to claim you don't give a hoot about it and then claim Apple is behind.

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Yep how many times has i7guy been exposed for his nonsense now?

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Amen tell it like it is!!! He has been exposed again for contradictory comments!!!!

You should be the one to talk about flip flops my friend; when you don't even read posts. Typical head in the sand approach. Nuff said.
 

Dmunjal

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Nope ignored it because the comment to me appeared to be shortsighted. So if an enhancement doesn't have an immediate benefit it should be ignored as a legitamate enhancement?
IBM is largely becoming irrelevant in the Enterprise except for their services organization.
 

jamezr

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You guys can't have it both ways.



You can't say Apple is behind and then when presented with an enhancement that is far reaching claim this nonsense because there is no immediate benefit to you..


Sounds like you don't know what it is or how it will benefit any iPhone user. But me thinks you are stalling so you can read up on it!!!
 

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
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No it sounds(correction: positive you don't understand) the implacation of this.

well, then what are the implications?

their partnership was exposed quite some time ago and I do believe I've heard of absolutely nothing since then

FWIW I was excited for new enterprise features, but that excitement is dimming

If microsoft continues their full fledged android support, it may become the favored choice for corps, things can change (just like microsoft has done a 180 with their attitude)
 

epicrayban

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Nov 7, 2014
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Yep how many times has i7guy been exposed for his nonsense now?

Too many.

And for the record, no one is claiming Apple doesn't have forward thinking ideas.

The topic was whether or not Apple could/should catch up to the things it's behind in, namely compared to the Samsung GS6. The discussion expanded to other OEMs and other areas that Apple is behind in both hardware/software-wise, and again, whether they should react to the tide of rising competition. None of this means Apple isn't putting forward thinking ideas themselves in other areas.

When he brought up near field wireless charging, I said, great. Hope Apple brings it, proving that it's not hard to agree with people wanting improvements. It's only hard for him when it isn't relating to Apple. Then all of a sudden, we get thread-derailing thoughts like Apple profits implying the people have spoken and Apple doesn't need to add the things we want; or philosophical mumble-jumbo about how wishing for one thing leads to pointless infinite wishes; or how his own personal use case doesn't require the features we'd like to see (but he still cares about individualism!); or how we're comparing feature lists when we're actually the ones using the real devices in real life; or now how we should pay heed to Apple advances, but not competitor's advances.

I mean, look at the lengths he'll go to to deter a conversation about improving the device he himself professes he loves. I say again, what kind of Apple fan is that? And let's not forget, all this from a point of ignorance. He doesn't even own the S6.

If ya want to talk about Apple advances and how others should catch up to them, start your own thread. But don't make excuses for Apple in this thread, then turn around and accuse us of not respecting what Apple's doing. You're in the wrong place. Not us. We're attempting to stay on topic. If and when you start that Apple thread, I'll happily agree with you that Apple is doing interesting things, too, as I did here:

I hope this happens, too. It'll be great to see wireless charging advance.

See? It's not that hard to agree with other people's feature desires. Notice I didn't have to mention:

1) How I may or may not need said feature personally

2) Nor did I feel compelled to mention how great Apple sales are to imply they don't need to add said features.

3) Or how I didn't go off on some tangent about how Apple knows their market and that that market has spoken with their wallets; clearly after selling record breaking millions, people have voted they are pro-wires and don't need wireless charging advances.

Those were positions you took up. Imagine arguing against those points. And then imagine more specifically arguining against those points against someone who hasn't even used a S6 in depth to know the difference and disparity of the two devices in question.

And the day near field charging does come to fruition, and others (probably you, too) argue for the conveniences of it and how competitors need to step up their game to add something similar to their tech, you won't hear any objection out of me then either.

See, not hard.


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You guys can't have it both ways.

You can't say Apple is behind and then when presented with an enhancement that is far reaching claim this nonsense because there is no immediate benefit to you.

Read my post above.

I say again, you're in the wrong place. Not us. We're staying on topic. You're not. Start your own thread about what Apple is ahead in and how others should catch up to them. Feel free. And if anybody attempts to make excuses for other OEMs, you have every right to criticize them for not wanting their own devices to be improved. We've been schooling you on that front for pages and pages in this thread.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Too many.

And for the record, no one is claiming Apple doesn't have forward thinking ideas.

The topic was whether or not Apple could/should catch up to the things it's behind in, namely compared to the Samsung GS6. The discussion expanded to other OEMs and other areas that Apple is behind in both hardware/software-wise, and again, whether they should react to the tide of rising competition. None of this means Apple isn't putting forward thinking ideas themselves in other areas.

When he brought up near field wireless charging, I said, great. Hope Apple brings it, proving that it's not hard to agree with people wanting improvements. It's only hard for him when it isn't relating to Apple. Then all of a sudden, we get thread-derailing thoughts like Apple profits implying the people have spoken and Apple doesn't need to add the things we want; or philosophical mumble-jumbo about how wishing for one thing leads to pointless infinite wishes; or how his own personal use case doesn't require the features we'd like to see (but he still cares about individualism!); or how we're comparing feature lists when we're actually the ones using the real devices in real life; or now how we should pay heed to Apple advances, but not competitor's advances.

I mean, look at the lengths he'll go to to deter a conversation about improving the device he himself professes he loves. I say again, what kind of Apple fan is that? And let's not forget, all this from a point of ignorance. He doesn't even own the S6.

If ya want to talk about Apple advances and how others should catch up to them, start your own thread. But don't make excuses for Apple in this thread, then turn around and accuse us of not respecting what Apple's doing. You're in the wrong place. Not us. We're attempting to stay on topic. If and when you start that Apple thread, I'll happily agree with you that Apple is doing interesting things, too, as I did here:



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Read my post above.

I say again, you're in the wrong place. Not us. We're staying on topic. You're not. Start your own thread about what Apple is ahead in and how others should catch up to them. Feel free. And if anybody attempts to make excuses for other OEMs, you have every right to criticize them for not wanting their own devices to be improved. We've been schooling you on that front for pages and pages in this thread.

Most of this thread is off topic as this thread relates to hardware. YOU brought up the software aspect of this.

And what we've been trying to educate you about is probably some hardware Apple will catch up on, some it won't, some will be different but neutral (force touch?) But it will only matter to a spec-sheet checker.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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No it sounds(correction: positive you don't understand) the implacation of this.
Oh then this is the time for you to explain it huh? By all means the stage is yours! 5 people are calling you out for your BS......all you can hear is crickets from I7guy............
 

sc4rf4c3

macrumors regular
Oct 10, 2012
190
41
You guys can't have it both ways.

You can't say Apple is behind and then when presented with an enhancement that is far reaching claim this nonsense because there is no immediate benefit to you.

I know exactly what and why as I'm in that area but I'm declining to give an opinion. You are welcome to claim you don't give a hoot about it and then claim Apple is behind.

Where did I say that Apple is behind? In fact I welcome every enhancement from Apple. This partnership with IBM happened about 6 months ago and up to now I'm still clueless on what it would bring. Since you stated that it would benefit millions, we want to hear about it from you.

You are not my dead grandpa, are you? I swear you're exactly like him because until his dying day, he kept insisting that drinking Coke would benefit anybody. He never knew the benefit but sure of it because it's Coke.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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Where did I say that Apple is behind? In fact I welcome every enhancement from Apple. This partnership with IBM happened about 6 months ago and up to now I'm still clueless on what it would bring. Since you stated that it would benefit millions, we want to hear about it from you.
He won't address the questions. He just threw the IBM partnership out there to avoid the other questions he was ducking. But he just stuck his foot in his mouth even further. I think he up to his ankles now.....
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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He won't address the questions. He just threw the IBM partnership out there to avoid the other questions he was ducking. But he just stuck his foot in his mouth even further. I think he up to his ankles now.....

I won't address the question because I'm waiting for some initiative here....waiting; waiting.
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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I won't address the question because I'm waiting for some initiative here....waiting; waiting.

Samsung is doing 8k displays. Sometime in the future that will translate to phones. Don't know when...just the future...

Benefits? Better cameras can then be added to devices, with superior photos and video on the phone and external displays. Better VR DPI. 4k content on a mobile device. Insane game graphics.

Notice, hardware related, applicable to thread and illustrates Samsung having forward thinking and tangible benefits to Samsung device buyers.

So, try laying out what IBM and Apple relationship does in the same fashion.
 
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jamezr

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I won't address the question because I'm waiting for some initiative here....waiting; waiting.
you're waiting for what? The best way to avoid the questions? Just like in the past when you have been revealed to not know what you're talking about you raise a smoke screen to avoid the embarrassment.
You have zero credibility on this forum.
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
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25,469
Wales, United Kingdom
Away from the witch hunt and back on topic:

After watching quite a few reviews I think this one points out pro's and con's of both while coming across honest. It points out the strong points from each camera and the key differences your average consumer may need to consider in terms of the operating systems on each. The S6 is clearly the better spec'd phone of the two, but the iPhone holds its own I think. They clearly suit different types of user.

https://youtu.be/bcctFUmLCcc
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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992
Las Vegas, NV
Where did I say that Apple is behind? In fact I welcome every enhancement from Apple. This partnership with IBM happened about 6 months ago and up to now I'm still clueless on what it would bring. Since you stated that it would benefit millions, we want to hear about it from you.

You are not my dead grandpa, are you? I swear you're exactly like him because until his dying day, he kept insisting that drinking Coke would benefit anybody. He never knew the benefit but sure of it because it's Coke.

Coke is great for removing rust off your chrome bumper or any metal and it is good to use if you have a pipe plugged with concrete. It will loosen it up when you let it set in there for a time.

Those are nice benefits :D
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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And with iOS9 we are starting to see a real penalty for selling under specced devices. Notice how REAL multitasking is only available on an iOS device with 2gb of RAM.

Those RAM starved chickens are coming home to roost
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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And with iOS9 we are starting to see a real penalty for selling under specced devices. Notice how REAL multitasking is only available on an iOS device with 2gb of RAM.

Those RAM starved chickens are coming home to roost
Another thing IOS devices with follow Android
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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And with iOS9 we are starting to see a real penalty for selling under specced devices. Notice how REAL multitasking is only available on an iOS device with 2gb of RAM.

Those RAM starved chickens are coming home to roost

No surprise really. It's been known since 2012 that the 2GB DRAM Note II got split screen multitasking feature while original 2011 1GB DRAM Note did not.

All those denying that specs don't matter now have obsolete devices even if they bought it in 2015 unless it's the iPad Air 2.
 
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