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Rainshadow

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Feb 16, 2017
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I get DVD's of every study I have done. No charge. There were plans, way back in the beginning of 'electronic medical records', for everyone to be issued a drive (of some kind) to keep your medical info on. You were supposed to bring that with you to every appointment, and the staff would read that 'drive', and know what you were there for, and what drugs and treatment you were getting/had gotten. The system would flag for drug interactions, and doctor shopping would be dead, gone, impossible. And then the politicians screwed it all up. *shrug* Entrusting the average American with something as small as a thumb drive for medical information is just asking for trouble. If it's not BIG, it'll get lost, or the spawn will use it, and erase it, or post it all to social media.

Also, sharing medical information is a great sounding thing, but with so many different medical records software companies, achieving that has not been easy, and can be impossible, without going the 'long way' around. *shrug* It could be worse. The local hospital had two distinct records systems, and they were completely incompatible with each other. And they called that progress... It took them over a year to get the data into the system they had chosen. They kept having runs trying to convert chunks of the data over, and ran into problems. Some problems were pretty massive from what I remember someone saying. They were actually considering hiring a room full of monkeys to try to write a Shakespeare novel, oh, wait, they were thinking of hiring a room full of unemployed office peeps to literally have two screens on their desk, and go from one to the other, transcribing the data into the new system. They were that desperate, but they got it done, finally. Sure, it's a mess, but it generally works fairly well...
This convo has spiraled. My point was originally about iPad being able to handle things when someone pointed out cds. My point was laptops and many desktops no longer have cd slots. I don’t care how people share medical records. It happens a bunch of ways. However, I know this for a fact - you can go in and get a hard copy and scan them into your own files. So, all I was saying is that iPad doesn’t have a disadvantage (at least as a result of cds or dvds) since standard computers moved that way already as well.
 

LibbyLA

macrumors 6502a
Jun 16, 2017
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Except the original post is exactly someone making their spending decision other people’s business.
My response wasn’t to the OP but to someone applying their virtuous opinion on spending To other people.
 

pdoherty

macrumors 65816
Dec 30, 2014
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I get DVD's of every study I have done. No charge. There were plans, way back in the beginning of 'electronic medical records', for everyone to be issued a drive (of some kind) to keep your medical info on. You were supposed to bring that with you to every appointment, and the staff would read that 'drive', and know what you were there for, and what drugs and treatment you were getting/had gotten. The system would flag for drug interactions, and doctor shopping would be dead, gone, impossible. And then the politicians screwed it all up. *shrug* Entrusting the average American with something as small as a thumb drive for medical information is just asking for trouble. If it's not BIG, it'll get lost, or the spawn will use it, and erase it, or post it all to social media.

Also, sharing medical information is a great sounding thing, but with so many different medical records software companies, achieving that has not been easy, and can be impossible, without going the 'long way' around. *shrug* It could be worse. The local hospital had two distinct records systems, and they were completely incompatible with each other. And they called that progress... It took them over a year to get the data into the system they had chosen. They kept having runs trying to convert chunks of the data over, and ran into problems. Some problems were pretty massive from what I remember someone saying. They were actually considering hiring a room full of monkeys to try to write a Shakespeare novel, oh, wait, they were thinking of hiring a room full of unemployed office peeps to literally have two screens on their desk, and go from one to the other, transcribing the data into the new system. They were that desperate, but they got it done, finally. Sure, it's a mess, but it generally works fairly well...

I don’t know why we aren’t mentioning that cloud storage is a thing? Taiwan solved this a decade ago and stores everyone’s medical records in a medical records database (probably why some freak) and when you visit any type of medical provider you give them your medical card (chipped like a credit card), they slide it into a reader, and gain access to all of your x-rays, MRIs, written reports, prescriptions, etc.

That’s what we should be doing, not limping along in this hodgepodge that costs a ton more and is far slower.
 

pdoherty

macrumors 65816
Dec 30, 2014
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This convo has spiraled. My point was originally about iPad being able to handle things when someone pointed out cds. My point was laptops and many desktops no longer have cd slots. I don’t care how people share medical records. It happens a bunch of ways. However, I know this for a fact - you can go in and get a hard copy and scan them into your own files. So, all I was saying is that iPad doesn’t have a disadvantage (at least as a result of cds or dvds) since standard computers moved that way already as well.
Except any Mac or PC (even ones that came without readers) can easily use DVDs with a $35 USB drive.
 
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PinkyMacGodess

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Midwest America.
This convo has spiraled. My point was originally about iPad being able to handle things when someone pointed out cds. My point was laptops and many desktops no longer have cd slots. I don’t care how people share medical records. It happens a bunch of ways. However, I know this for a fact - you can go in and get a hard copy and scan them into your own files. So, all I was saying is that iPad doesn’t have a disadvantage (at least as a result of cds or dvds) since standard computers moved that way already as well.

I'll delete mine if you want. I just read some of the posts and kinda played along...

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rui no onna

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Except any Mac or PC (evens ones that came without readers) can easily use DVDs with a $35 USB drive.

I expect those without optical drives will just ask for a print-out instead of buying a DVD drive that they'd almost never use.

With that said, have pre-built Windows desktops done away with DVD drives already? I know they've done so on laptops to reduce size and weight but I would've thought it still came standard on desktop.
 

PinkyMacGodess

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Mar 7, 2007
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Midwest America.
I don’t know why we aren’t mentioning that cloud storage is a thing? Taiwan solved this a decade ago and stores everyone’s medical records in a medical records database (probably why some freak) and when you visit any type of medical provider you give them your medical card (chipped like a credit card), they slide it into a reader, and gain access to all of your x-rays, MRIs, written reports, prescriptions, etc.

That’s what we should be doing, not limping along in this hodgepodge that costs a ton more and is far slower.

HIPAA and all that jazz...

(Cloud storage isn't the answer, IMO)

Hopefully not over the line: It's a mess because corporations and 'dark money groups' buy politicians, and bad decisions get implemented and things get worse. At least that's my take on it. Most politicians seem to be better when they sit on their hands and do nothing. *shrug*
 

rui no onna

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Oct 25, 2013
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HIPAA and all that jazz...

Hopefully not over the line: It's a mess because corporations and 'dark money groups' buy politicians, and bad decisions get implemented and things get worse. At least that's my take on it. Most politicians seem to be better when they sit on their hands and do nothing. *shrug*

I would assume such a system could actually comply with HIPAA, in particular the Portability portion, and it seems like patient approval is required via the card in order to access information which takes care of privacy.
 

Adelphos33

macrumors 68000
Mar 13, 2012
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I have the iPad Pro on preorder now. I wish I could see a review before delivery. Unlike my 2020 MacBook Air (which got loud and hot, and the M1 MacBook Air was an obvious upgrade), the 2018 iPad Pro works perfectly to this day - big bright screen, fast LTE and wi-fi, I have plenty of storage, fast, runs all the apps I need, etc. Ultimately the 2020 iPad is a spec bump - perhaps they can use a lot of the new tech, but I worry that my experience with the 2021 iPad will be exactly the same as my current 2018 iPad.
 

mikehalloran

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Oct 14, 2018
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The Sillie Con Valley
In the upcoming months, I will need a new 12.9" iPad Pro or I'll need a new MacBook Air. I will not need both.

Though we know the capabilities of the M1 hardware, no one knows what iPadOS 15 will allow the new iPad Pro to actually do. For that reason, I intend to wait till after the WWDC to make any decision one way or the other.

Among my needs is the ability to hook it up via ethernet — a TB4 hub with an ethernet port should be fine.
 

rui no onna

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Oct 25, 2013
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I have the iPad Pro on preorder now. I wish I could see a review before delivery. Unlike my 2020 MacBook Air (which got loud and hot, and the M1 MacBook Air was an obvious upgrade), the 2018 iPad Pro works perfectly to this day - big bright screen, fast LTE and wi-fi, I have plenty of storage, fast, runs all the apps I need, etc. Ultimately the 2020 iPad is a spec bump - perhaps they can use a lot of the new tech, but I worry that my experience with the 2021 iPad will be exactly the same as my current 2018 iPad.

If you're not having any issues with your current 2018 Pro, then perhaps it's better to wait. Something newer and better will get released eventually.

For me, I've already started running into hiccups with the 2017 Pro plus I've wanted to upgrade to 1TB for the longest time.


Among my needs is the ability to hook it up via ethernet — a TB4 hub with an ethernet port should be fine.

That's been supported for a long while. I don't know about 30-pin but you could do this on the Lightning-based iPads with the USB-Lightning Camera adapter.
 

Kierkegaarden

Cancelled
Dec 13, 2018
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I have the iPad Pro on preorder now. I wish I could see a review before delivery. Unlike my 2020 MacBook Air (which got loud and hot, and the M1 MacBook Air was an obvious upgrade), the 2018 iPad Pro works perfectly to this day - big bright screen, fast LTE and wi-fi, I have plenty of storage, fast, runs all the apps I need, etc. Ultimately the 2020 iPad is a spec bump - perhaps they can use a lot of the new tech, but I worry that my experience with the 2021 iPad will be exactly the same as my current 2018 iPad.
What do you use your iPad Pro for now?
 

ericwn

macrumors G5
Apr 24, 2016
12,113
10,899
I have the iPad Pro on preorder now. I wish I could see a review before delivery. Unlike my 2020 MacBook Air (which got loud and hot, and the M1 MacBook Air was an obvious upgrade), the 2018 iPad Pro works perfectly to this day - big bright screen, fast LTE and wi-fi, I have plenty of storage, fast, runs all the apps I need, etc. Ultimately the 2020 iPad is a spec bump - perhaps they can use a lot of the new tech, but I worry that my experience with the 2021 iPad will be exactly the same as my current 2018 iPad.

Same thoughts here, for the moment the new iPad is just a spec bump on paper - a nice bump, but wether or not it materialises into a new or different workflow remains to be seen.
 

PBG4 Dude

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Jul 6, 2007
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4,639
I expect those without optical drives will just ask for a print-out instead of buying a DVD drive that they'd almost never use.

With that said, have pre-built Windows desktops done away with DVD drives already? I know they've done so on laptops to reduce size and weight but I would've thought it still came standard on desktop.
An MRI on DVD is about a GB of images covering each slice taken by the machine. The DVD also contains a viewing program. It isn’t a report or singular image that can be printed.

I bet the images would look pretty sweet on the new mini-led screen though.

I think when I get my M1 iPad, I’ll try hooking up my SuperDrive with a DVD in it to see what happens.
 

the future

macrumors 68040
Jul 17, 2002
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5,927
What is an iPad? It‘s basically a screen in your hands behind which the computing part disappears. All iPad Pros (at least from 2018 on) are „fast enough“ for all tasks (for most people). It‘s all about the screen. That‘s why the 2021 12.9“ was an easy pre-order for me: this is the first real leap in display quality for iPads since they went „retina“. Can‘t wait for mine to ship.

OTOH, if the early reviews indicate that the mini LED display isn‘t the leap I expect it to be, this will be an just as easy cancellation for me. My 2018 12.9 is still a great machine.
 

linkgx1

macrumors 68000
Oct 12, 2011
1,771
460
What is an iPad? It‘s basically a screen in your hands behind which the computing part disappears. All iPad Pros (at least from 2018 on) are „fast enough“ for all tasks (for most people). It‘s all about the screen. That‘s why the 2021 12.9“ was an easy pre-order for me: this is the first real leap in display quality for iPads since they went „retina“. Can‘t wait for mine to ship.

OTOH, if the early reviews indicate that the mini LED display isn‘t the leap I expect it to be, this will be an just as easy cancellation for me. My 2018 12.9 is still a great machine.
The thing about Apple is that they focus on more color-accurate displays. I noticed this when OLED iPhones came out. The blacks are nice, yes, but Apple doesn't oversaturate like Samsung. I would solely upgrade for the display as I think it'll be evolutionary and not revolutionary.
 

Adelphos33

macrumors 68000
Mar 13, 2012
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2,262
What do you use your iPad Pro for now?

1) Second screen when working from home, viewing PDF / website, custom iOS apps that work with my job, video conferencing, photos/videos, perosnal word processing / excel, etc. So I like the screen size for my usecase (I also have a smaller iPad for travel and light tasks).
 

Broadus

macrumors 65816
Oct 26, 2011
1,108
649
Upstate SC
Well, I have managed to cancel my order twice, both times a 12.9” 2021 iPP 256GB from Costco, $1247 (including state sales tax). I simply couldn’t handle the thought of spending that much plus a Smart Keyboard folio. My iPad is definitely a secondary device to my MBP for me.

I may reconsider after the initial reviews, but I think I’ll be looking for a nicely discounted 2020 12.9” 256GB. We’ll see. I was hoping that Costco would be the source for a good 2020 12.9”, but they cleaned out their 2020 iPP stock over last night. I checked online this morning and they were all gone.
 

Broadus

macrumors 65816
Oct 26, 2011
1,108
649
Upstate SC
I would never cancel my order, because I gotta have that XDR display. I hope it’s as good as predicted. I like bright screens. The previous 600 nit screens for the 2018 and 2020 iPPs were awesome as is, so I think I’ll be floored.
If I used my iPad to watch and/or work with video or photos, I would have never cancelled, either. It will be a great screen for watching movies and shows.

But for me, I would get little if any benefit from its fabulous screen and mind-blowing speed. I like a big screen to read text, and it’s a lot of money for my usage.

For those of you who find the M1/XDR iPad useful, I hope you all the best with it.
 

Kierkegaarden

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Dec 13, 2018
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Well, I have managed to cancel my order twice, both times a 12.9” 2021 iPP 256GB from Costco, $1247 (including state sales tax). I simply couldn’t handle the thought of spending that much plus a Smart Keyboard folio. My iPad is definitely a secondary device to my MBP for me.

I may reconsider after the initial reviews, but I think I’ll be looking for a nicely discounted 2020 12.9” 256GB. We’ll see. I was hoping that Costco would be the source for a good 2020 12.9”, but they cleaned out their 2020 iPP stock over last night. I checked online this morning and they were all gone.
I just checked and Costco has all of the 2020 12.9 models listed — no M1’s though.

If you want that screen size and don’t need the MiniLED, this is a pretty good deal — $899 for the 256gb.
 

shadowby7e

macrumors newbie
Oct 23, 2020
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I just checked and Costco has all of the 2020 12.9 models listed — no M1’s though.

If you want that screen size and don’t need the MiniLED, this is a pretty good deal — $899 for the 256gb.
I've been watching the price on Costco.com for a few weeks now. A few days ago, all the 2020 models disappeared but now they're back again. Same discounted rate as before though. I'm hoping they'll drop the price even further once we're past the launch date for the new ones.
 

Kierkegaarden

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Dec 13, 2018
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I've been watching the price on Costco.com for a few weeks now. A few days ago, all the 2020 models disappeared but now they're back again. Same discounted rate as before though. I'm hoping they'll drop the price even further once we're past the launch date for the new ones.
I wouldn’t count on the price going lower than this. The rebate is good until the end of the month, then the price goes back up. If you want one, I would suggest snagging one now while they’re available.
 

richinaus

macrumors 68020
Oct 26, 2014
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I just cancelled my 12 pro 512gb space gray……. And re-ordered the 1tb 12 pro :). I just won some more work and also prefer to have the most fluid tools for my work [the extra RAM will be useful]
 
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