MP 1,1-5,1 Cannot install or use Nvidia Webdrivers anymore!

[eierfrucht]

maybe this helps:

sudo codesign --force --deep --sign - /Library/Extensions/NVDAGK100HalWeb.kext

You are basically using a bogus certificate to sign stuff, but that's gonna work if you turn SIP off.

 

[FilthyMuppetInnuendo]

Wonder if this has anything to do with the saga?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1532545973372588033

“Web Driver acceleration for Monterey”? Does that mean that they previewed a new web driver for newer versions of OS X last week? Meaning we could potentially finally upgrade our OS’?

 

[tsialex]

“Web Driver acceleration for Monterey”? Does that mean that they previewed a new web driver for newer versions of OS X last week? Meaning we could potentially finally upgrade our OS’?

No, it's the old HighSierra webdriver hacked to run with Monterey and without METAL, just OGL.

This PR's goal is to implement basic Nvidia Web Driver support for Big Sur and Monterey. These patches are highly experimental, and do not support many features expected of the Web Drivers from High Sierra

This build's main draw back is relying on the non-Metal stack, thus having the same issues as non-Metal graphics cards we see today. See issue 108 for more information.

Implement Alpha Support for Nvidia Web Drivers by khronokernel · Pull Request #993 · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

This PR's goal is to implement basic Nvidia Web Driver support for Big Sur and Monterey. These patches are highly experimental, and do not support many features expected of the Web Drivers from...

github.com

 

[QuietSoft]

I have a GTX 980 Ti in my 2012 Mac Pro 5,1 (High Sierra 10.13.6) and am replacing it with a Sapphire Pulse RX 580 (MVC) so I can move on to a more recent OS. In case the RX 580 has any issues, I don't want to delete the NVIDIA driver and risk not being able to re-install it. Could I safely do one of the following:

1. Use the NVIDIA Driver Manager (System Preference panel) to select the "Default OS X Driver" without uninstalling anything. Shutdown, unplug, etc. Remove the GTX and install the RX 580. Boot and try it out. If it doesn't work, revert to the GTX, boot, and use the NVIDIA control panel to select "NVIDIA Web Driver". That is, can I just temporarily disable the NVIDIA driver rather than uninstall it to test the AMD GPU?
2. If necessary, uninstall the NVIDIA driver. Try the new GPU. If it doesn't work, restore my entire SSD from a bootable CCC backup.
3. Get a spare HD or SSD and try the new GPU before touching my main SSD.

Thanks for any advice.

 

[Terry 44]

The below steps will resolve your issue at the cost of waiving the operating system’s ability to block signatures revoked for legit security reasons. If you have previously tampered with an affected system, please revert to the most recent Time Machine backup (no manual signature-stripping or hauling around of system files).

Step 1. Physically disconnect the affected device from the web. Powering down the router for a few minutes will do just fine.

Step 2. Boot into Safe Mode. Everything will be extremely laggy, be patient.

Step 3. Launch Terminal and enter the command ‘sudo nano /etc/hosts’, once prompted provide the password.

Step 4. Append the following lines to the file’s contents:

127.0.0.1 ocsp.apple.com
127.0.0.1 ocsp2.apple.com
127.0.0.1 ocsp.digicert.com

Save changes and exit.

Step 5. Run the following batch of Terminal commands:

crlrefresh rp
sudo rm -f /var/db/crls/*cache?.db
sudo date -u 020200002020
sudo reboot

Your computer will immediately reboot after the last command. Upon seeing the desktop again, you should notice that everything is back to normal. You can now reconnect to the internet. System time and date will automatically adjust themselves upon reconnecting. If some apps throw errors related to bad time and date, another reboot will fix that. Don’t worry if you run into any scary messages upon the first reboot.

The ‘sudo date’ shift trick is 90% likely unnecessary but better safe than sorry. It’s there just to lure the system (now reverted to a clean state) into repeating any sneaky moves it’s compelled to make since the 1st of June, just to check it no longer breaks itself.

Ok Done and I think that I’m back normal. Need to make test about graphic acceleration . Startup looks a big laggy . Préf pane now works with 17G66 and 387.10.10.10.105 driver .I used the script to install it . Back to internet connection seems ok .
going to put back the 970 GTX now : cross finger
And then
I have to reinstall all my apps for test & work 🙏🙏🙏

 

[Terry 44]

Everything is back but it seems that the graphics and all the effect are very bad . Screen freezing, laggy mouvement etc … no good 😌
should I change driver on 17G66 ? My driver is for 17G65
thanks

 

[Demigod Mac]

Got a reply from Nvidia's escalations team (tier 2 support):

After reading through the notes here I wanted to mention that driver certificate has expired; They are aware of the issue and working toward a resolution. Once I have some information to share I will let you know.

 

[Terry 44]

Got a reply from Nvidia's escalations team (tier 2 support):

We all hope that soon 😴

 

[Terry 44]

Very laggy ... no way to work as it is ... freezing screen, windows flashing etc ... but I get it work

 

[Terry 44]

Ok Done and I think that I’m back normal. Need to make test about graphic acceleration . Startup looks a big laggy . Préf pane now works with 17G66 and 387.10.10.10.105 driver .I used the script to install it . Back to internet connection seems ok .
going to put back the 970 GTX now : cross finger
And then
I have to reinstall all my apps for test & work 🙏🙏🙏

IMPOSSIBLE TO WORK WITH ALL THE GLITCH AND FLASHING WINDOWS . We need a good webdriver

 

[TedsterTheSecond]

Yep. Heres hoping. I didn't get to bed til 2.30am! My Time Machine restore was a nightmare, and ironically not even necessary with work missing, I'd never have thought it was a certificate problem from NVidia.

 

[newyorkmacguy]

Hi All
Mac Pro 5.1/ 3.33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon /Nvidia Geforce 680, running High Sierra 10.13.6 same problem as all in the thread.
1- I tried the solution on page 4 with the detailed terminal commands, it didnt solve anything.

Has anybody actually solved the problem or we all waiting for NVIDIA to do soemthing? I did write to nvidia. no response.

2- Can anybody recommend a good AMD GPU card with like 2 or 3gb of vram? Also what does AMD do instead of nvidia's cuda for Premiere anybody know? Mostly im doing light video editing in premiere and music in logic which doesnt care about video. I found the Nvidia 680 helped my render speed and overall functionality in premiere. looking for an option while we wait for NVIDIA solution which im not optimistic is gonna come any time soon.

For tonight I popped in my AMD5770 so i can function, just working on music for now its fine ...but i would like to buy find a AMD card that wont give me any headaches for a while. Suggestions?

 

[hwojtek]

Suggestions?

GPU Compatibility List for cMP

Content: 1. Summary 2. Information on common GPUs that can be used in cMP 3. GPU power consumption 4. Color compatibility 5. Flashing nuances 6. What to choose? 7. Useful links. 1. Summary 1.1. There are 50+ GPU types that are compatible with cMP (classic MacPro = Mac Pro 1.1-5.1/...

forums.macrumors.com

 

[Terry 44]

Yeah that's how you get Vesa in normal mode but that's more difficult. So it looks like my laziness led to a beneficial discovery without me even realizing until now.

Sorry but I neither understand your English overall; nor which kind of patched OS you are forced to use; nor why exactly.

If you are trying to run HS on unsupported hardware and succeed with an older build, there’s gotta be a way to patch the latest build as long as it’s still 10.13.6. You should investigate.

Sorry for my english ? i'm a froggy . I ran HS on a mac pro 3.1. the problem is that I caanot patch the last build of HS because I cannot find it . I'm on 17G66 now. Before the Nvidia driver problem I was on 17G65.
I use the dosdude1.com pacth to make the HS compatible on my mac . It makes you a bootable usb drive installer.
The HS I can donwload is the 17G66 now . No update possible without the patch updater (dosdude1)

I'd love to go to the latest build of HS . But I don't know if my mac 3.1 2008 early version can be patch for that build.

And the second reason is that I cannot find any HS complete build of macOS 10.13.6 High Sierra (17G14042) for the 387.10.10.10.40.140 driver . I've been looking around all day yesturday . No way to find it .

If someone as the HS build complete of macOS 10.13.6 High Sierra (17G14042) it should help me . I can't do any update directly on my HS build . If I do it crashed IT and I need to reinstall a new HS again . It happened to me sunday.
Thanks for your help and sorry again for my FRenglish

 

[ori69]

No, it's the old HighSierra webdriver hacked to run with Monterey and without METAL, just OGL.

Implement Alpha Support for Nvidia Web Drivers by khronokernel · Pull Request #993 · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

This PR's goal is to implement basic Nvidia Web Driver support for Big Sur and Monterey. These patches are highly experimental, and do not support many features expected of the Web Drivers from...

github.com

Nvidia has long been working on CUDA and that's why they refused to switch to crawling Metal.

 

[Ashok.Vardhan]

Yep. Heres hoping. I didn't get to bed til 2.30am! My Time Machine restore was a nightmare, and ironically not even necessary with work missing, I'd never have thought it was a certificate problem from NVidia.

Time Machine takes way too long. Try Carbon Copy Cloner. Make clones of a working install, which has everything that you need, and archive it for the future. Revert when you have issues. Deploying is quick: all you have to do is just copy (i.e. restore) the install, create a recovery HD and you are good to go. Takes way lesser time than TM.

 

[newyorkmacguy]

I dont see anybody posting absolute success with the fixes in this thread so far, am i right?
this is unresolved? I surrender. i put in my AMD5770 only 1gb but its fine for now at least i can make music. . If i decide to sell my nvidia geforce 680 mac , is it compatible to PC users or is it mac only? Any idea what OSX's it will work with prior to High Sierra?

 

[bogdanw]

I’ve posted some pages ago a method of extracting the kexts and preference pane from the install package and removing the signatures before installing them. No luck with that?
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...idia-webdrivers-anymore.2346445/post-31146803

 

[takovej]

And the second reason is that I cannot find any HS complete build of macOS 10.13.6 High Sierra (17G14042) for the 387.10.10.10.40.140 driver . I've been looking around all day yesturday . No way to find it .

If someone as the HS build complete of macOS 10.13.6 High Sierra (17G14042) it should help me . I can't do any update directly on my HS build . If I do it crashed IT and I need to reinstall a new HS again . It happened to me sunday.
Thanks for your help and sorry again for my FRenglish

You can get list of all available webdrivers ie here

 

[Terry 44]

You can get list of all available webdrivers ie here

And none of them are for 17g66

 

[takovej]

You are probably missing some security update... You can install Security Update 2020-004 on MP3,1 and apply post install patches and you should be fine (in some cases wifi might not work, depending on your card version)

 

[weimand]

Extracting kexts and preference pane from the WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.140.pkg and removing their signatures

pkgutil --expand ~/Downloads/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.140.pkg ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp
cd ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg
cat Payload | gunzip -dc |cpio -i
ditto ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg/Library ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library
ditto ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg/System ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/System
codesign --remove-signature ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/System/Library/Extensions/GeForceVADriverWeb.bundle
codesign --remove-signature ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library/Extensions/GeForceWeb.kext

cd ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/NVPrefPane.pkg
cat Payload | gunzip -dc |cpio -i
ditto  ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/NVPrefPane.pkg/NVIDIA\ Driver\ Manager.prefPane ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/NVIDIA\ Driver\ Manager.prefPane
codesign --remove-signature ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/NVIDIA\ Driver\ Manager.prefPane
codesign --remove-signature ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/NVIDIA\ Driver\ Manager.prefPane/Contents/MacOS/NVMenu.app

To check signature

codesign -dvv ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library/Extensions/GeForceWeb.kext

Hi all
Same problem here.
We have two MacPros 5,1 both with a GTX1080. One of them is still working the other not.
The one that is still working has the latest Web driver (.140) but not the latest Cuda driver (396.64)
For the machine that is not working anymore I've tried the above method of extracting kexts but it won't do it.
It won't remove the signature on the GeForceWeb.kext:

MacPro-Workstation-1:~ admin$ pkgutil --expand ~/Downloads/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.140.pkg ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp
MacPro-Workstation-1:~ admin$ cd ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$ cd ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$ cat Payload | gunzip -dc |cpio -i
382811 blocks
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$ ditto ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg/Library ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$ ditto ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg/System ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/System
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$ codesign --remove-signature ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/System/Library/Extensions/GeForceVADriverWeb.bundle
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$ codesign --remove-signature ~/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library/Extensions/GeForceWeb.kext
error: /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/codesign_allocate: can't write output file: /Users/admin/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library/Extensions/GeForceWeb.kext/Contents/MacOS/GeForceWeb.cstemp (Invalid argument)
/Users/admin/Desktop/WebDriver_temp/Library/Extensions/GeForceWeb.kext: the codesign_allocate helper tool cannot be found or used
MacPro-Workstation-1:1.8-103-387.10.10.10.40.140-NVWebDrivers.pkg admin$

 

[Fullerfun]

I dont see anybody posting absolute success with the fixes in this thread so far, am i right?
this is unresolved? I surrender. i put in my AMD5770 only 1gb but its fine for now at least i can make music. . If i decide to sell my nvidia geforce 680 mac , is it compatible to PC users or is it mac only? Any idea what OSX's it will work with prior to High Sierra?

you are wrong. I have an absolute success. Many others as well. If you read through the entire thread you will see other success stories.

 

[Terry 44]

You are probably missing some security update... You can install Security Update 2020-004 on MP3,1 and apply post install patches and you should be fine (in some cases wifi might not work, depending on your card version)

I can’t do it . So I can’t miss it I can’t apply dosdude patch in post install

 

[Fullerfun]

Sorry for my english ? i'm a froggy . I ran HS on a mac pro 3.1. the problem is that I caanot patch the last build of HS because I cannot find it . I'm on 17G66 now. Before the Nvidia driver problem I was on 17G65.
I use the dosdude1.com pacth to make the HS compatible on my mac . It makes you a bootable usb drive installer.
The HS I can donwload is the 17G66 now . No update possible without the patch updater (dosdude1)

I'd love to go to the latest build of HS . But I don't know if my mac 3.1 2008 early version can be patch for that build.

And the second reason is that I cannot find any HS complete build of macOS 10.13.6 High Sierra (17G14042) for the 387.10.10.10.40.140 driver . I've been looking around all day yesturday . No way to find it .

If someone as the HS build complete of macOS 10.13.6 High Sierra (17G14042) it should help me . I can't do any update directly on my HS build . If I do it crashed IT and I need to reinstall a new HS again . It happened to me sunday.
Thanks for your help and sorry again for my FRenglish

If you look at the page, he seems to have created a system updater that should work for you, if it doesn’t work, email him and ask him how to update. His email is on the page. “- If selected in the macOS Post Install tool, your High Sierra install will have a program named "Patch Updater" located in your /Applications/Utilities folder. This program will alert you when new updates to patches are available for your machine, and will prompt you to install them. If you do not have Patch Updater installed, but would like it, you can download and run the script found here to do so.”

http://dosdude1.com/highsierra/