Aww crap....it looks similar to the poor USB external drive speeds on the Apple Silicon Macs compared to Intel machines. What did Apple put in there? A $10 SD-card reader from Alibaba?
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Can't Decide Between 14" and 16"
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Do all New Zealanders have to look like extras from "Lord of the Rings"?Who identifies with the intro to this video (in terms of screen size):
I'm not sure why they did this and also why its not an HMDI 2.1 port.
I'm also coming from a work 2019 16". In general are you finding the 14" screen to be too cramped? Think you'll keep it? Or swap it for the 2021 16" M1 Pro/Max?
It definitely is a UHS-II reader. The issue is that for some cards it works perfectly, some cards it works slow, and some cards it does not work at all. There is no pattern to which cards work and which don't. See the thread on SD card problems for more detail. It is not certain it is a software issue, might be hardware. There are even claims of the SD slot possibly damaging the functionality of the SD cards.
Here is speed on one of my SD UHS-II cards that happens to work well in the SD slot, 250MB/s read speed:
Other of my cards read only at ~10MB/s or even 0.0 MB/s in the SD slot. All work perfectly via a dongle.
Don't throw away your dongles.
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Card reader controller is GL9755, from Taiwan, same supplier as on previous MBPs that had card slots.
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I have to say I'm quite pleased with my 16". I'd had the Intel version as well. I took the M variant on a business trip the day after I received it, and I thought it performed well. Like many others who have posted to this thread, I'd ordered the 14" and then switched. I have an M1 MBA when the weight or size of the 16" will be an issue, but thus far, the new 16" has thrown me no hiccups and has handled everything I've asked it to do. That's a nice change from the beach balling MBA and some of the MBP predecessors.
I spent all my time studying up on the 14" MBP before going to the store to buy it. Once at the store I checked out the 16" machine to be sure, and wound up buying the larger machine. Yes it is big, but not at all unmanageable. I had a 17" unibody machine years ago and that was BIG. I find the 16" screen to be a good size for me and have not regretted the choice.
I'm still getting adjusted but everything about it feels nice and tight. The 16" is just too damn big. The typing experience on this 14" is the bees knees.
My discount resets on the 21st of this month so I do plan on ordering myself a custom 14". Lightroom/affinity photo use a f*ck ton of RAM so I'm going to go for 32gb and 2TB of SSD for some more headroom. What I'm still on the fence about is going M1 Max or M1 Pro.
Ha! I literally just finished watching it. Really surprised with his decision but I can definitely resonate with his reasoning.
Bigger might be better but at the end of the day if you value portability while still having power this 14" is the way to go.
I have a 14" (base) and love it...but I think next time I will go for the bigger size when I upgrade. For a machine that spends most of it's life on a desk, I think that the 16" really does make the most sense.
Yes, Maxtech articulates it quite well, and it is a surprisingly different viewpoint than their usual analytical approach.
Having gone through all sizes of laptops from 12" to 17", the smaller ones just feel better to me, and just what I enjoy using more. Sometimes you just need to go with what feels emotionally right, than logically right.
(Which for others may be the larger ones.)
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The choice depends on whether or not you primarily use the machine as an actual laptop or more of a portable desktop.
Laptop (especially if you use whilst in transit, on planes, etc.): 14"
Machine you transport from desk to desk: 16"
Laptop (especially if you use whilst in transit, on planes, etc.): 14"
Machine you transport from desk to desk: 16"
Get the size that you and you only are comfortable with. If possible check them out at the Apple store. No one here can tell you which one is best because one poster would think the 14 would be better and then another poster will say the 16 is better. Where would that leave you now? Back to square one again ?
Yup - this hit home for me. I had a ton of difficulty making my decision until realizing that I was really trying to convince myself that the 16" was better due to its increased screen size and better speakers. My heart (awww) was telling me the whole time that the 14" was the way to go with the lighter and more compact form factor. It just felt right, and I was drawn to it. Really happy with my choice thus far, though there are certainly times where having the more immersive screen would be cool.
The TLDR version, basically last 30 secs of the video @11:30 :
“He just liked the overall feel and portability of the 14" better.”
I initially got a 14" base model about two weeks ago. Really enjoyed it. I started having a problem with it charging so I returned it to the Apple Store. While I was there I spent time on the 16" and decided to give it a go. I am retired and basically use it at home and at the various coffee shops. I have to say in all my years of owning Apple computers from Power Books on up this is by far the best computer I have ever used. The screen is so easy for me to see and read text and I am having no problems toting it around.
I feel like a 16” MacBook Air would hit the nail on the head for a bunch of people
Today I placed an order on a souped up 16". I still have my base 14" that I've been enjoying but the battery life and thermals haven't been ideal.
You wanna know something crazy? The 14" ranks dead last in battery life out of the entire lineup right now
I maybe did an hour of editing in Lightroom while on a FaceTime audio call and my battery life was wrecked. I had the 14 on my lap the entire time and I had to move to a desk b/c it was getting a bit too hot for my liking.
What I can say is the basic 8 core M1 Pro is outperforming my 2019 16" MBP (i9 2.3GHz, 32GB, 1TB, 5500M 8GB) in export times. I'm shaving a few seconds (sometimes minutes) on my projects, all in a smaller, quieter form factor. That alone should be considered a victory.
My question is how much better will the $3499 16" be vs $1999 14"? I won't be getting it delivered until Mid December but knowing apple they love to undersell and overdeliver so maybe I'll get it a few day sooner.
I'm really torn right now. I love how tight the typing experience is on the 14" body & portability but the way I push my machines I think the 16" will be able to handle battery life and thermals better. We shall see how it goes.
You wanna know something crazy? The 14" ranks dead last in battery life out of the entire lineup right now
- 16 MacBook Pro - 21 hours
- 13 MacBook Pro - 20 hours
- 13 MacBook Air - 18 hours
- 14 MacBook Pro - 17 hours
I maybe did an hour of editing in Lightroom while on a FaceTime audio call and my battery life was wrecked. I had the 14 on my lap the entire time and I had to move to a desk b/c it was getting a bit too hot for my liking.
What I can say is the basic 8 core M1 Pro is outperforming my 2019 16" MBP (i9 2.3GHz, 32GB, 1TB, 5500M 8GB) in export times. I'm shaving a few seconds (sometimes minutes) on my projects, all in a smaller, quieter form factor. That alone should be considered a victory.
My question is how much better will the $3499 16" be vs $1999 14"? I won't be getting it delivered until Mid December but knowing apple they love to undersell and overdeliver so maybe I'll get it a few day sooner.
I'm really torn right now. I love how tight the typing experience is on the 14" body & portability but the way I push my machines I think the 16" will be able to handle battery life and thermals better. We shall see how it goes.
I had the 14 pro 10/16/16/1 for a few days, returned it and have had the 16 max 10/32/32/1 for the same amount of time.
I'm sticking with the 16" max because
I'm sticking with the 16" max because
- I will not have this hooked up to an external monitor that often
- I might have to go down a minimalist route soon due to relocating. If I only had one device w/o any external monitors, definitely the 16"
- 32gb will help me more with virtualization and light gaming
- The 16gb was fine for photo and video editing
- 16gb is probably fine for what I do with programming also
- The extra screen real estate is very noticeable
- I currently have 5 desktops on the 16" and I have so much more flexibility in terms of how I can organize my windows, especially when using Rectangle
- I was struggling on the 14" to find a good balance between # of desktops and the amount of applications I wanted to leave open all the time
- On the 14", it was difficult to have apps in 2 or 3 column layouts. I felt like I wanted apps in full screen, which would've resulted in more desktops
- On the 16", 2 or 3 column layouts is so much easier to work with
- Don't want to wait for a BTO 16" pro 10/16/32/* to arrive. This probably would've been my ideal configuration but Best Buy had this in stock
- I was able to get up to ~11 hours on the 14" pro and ~10 hours on the 16" max, both on low power mode when on battery
- I put both machines through similar, abnormal workflows for my own testing. I don't plan on compiling webkit in debug, editing photos/videos all the time, or always have video streaming. Everything I do will come and go in spurts and the battery life I got from both machines are perfectly fine for me
- For my current EDC, I carry a 100W USB-C PD 26800mAh battery pack that was able to take my MBP from 10% to 75% in ~45 minutes. That combined with the 10 hours of battery life is more than I need for all day computing
This sums it up for me - it's all about personal choice! I was bouncing between the 14" and 16" and watching YouTube videos and reading this forum hoping someone would make the decision for me! ? I tried the 14" M1 Pro and it was good but decided I wanted an M1 Max.
Saw a 16" M1 Max/32GB/1TB in stock so went for it, slightly concerned though that when it arrived it would be comically big and heavy - it is in fact neither! It's obviously bigger and heavier than the 14" but the screen is so immersive and the space makes a big difference. Also, it fits into laptop section of my Tucano rucksack fine and the weight increase wasn't noticeable on my walk to the train station today. I do think some of the concerns about weight and size are a bit overblown, but it's all a very subjective view.
It also fit on my train table with a coffee and a phone next to it too...and no-one laughed at my huge laptop so all good! ?