Charge limiter app AlDente - now works on M1 Macs

[tosbsas]

And there seems to be the trickle of floating. Ist seems to allow Slow movements between certain valúes.

I Hope they will add a Schedule Feature as for example I Need full battery Power every Friday at 6:45 pm

 

[tosbsas]

And I got an answer for my allow charging question

Regarding your question about the "when powered off" - feature: You are right, the text is somewhat misleading. We will try to make things more clear in the next update. "Allow Charging" corresponds to the slider being off, since this is the normal behaviour of your mac if you would have not installed AlDente. If the setting is on, AlDente will automatically inhibit charge as soon as it detects that your system is going to sleep.

 

[Mike Boreham]

I like that the Pro version has two unambiguous manual override buttons which simply mean "Charge now" or "Discharge now" irrespective of the set percentages.

What I wrote above is wrong. The "Discharge" button does not discharge irrespective of the percentage setting but discharges down to the percentage setting. Not a problem.

 

[BigMcGuire]

What I wrote above is wrong. The "Discharge" button does not discharge irrespective of the percentage setting but discharges down to the percentage setting. Not a problem.

I just tested this last night. Was surprised how well it worked especially on my Intel MacBook.

 

[BigMcGuire]

I just reported a bug and got a near instant reply saying it'll be fixed. Cool.

 

[tosbsas]

I just reported a bug and got a near instant reply saying it'll be fixed. Cool.

Could you mention the bug, please

 

[BigMcGuire]

Could you mention the bug, please

Oh sure - sorry bout that.


AlDente Pro 1.0 Beta Bug Report

Steps to Recreate
1. Turn WiFi off.
2. Quit AlDente Pro 1.0 Beta and run app. (See image below)
3. AlDente crashes with the below screen trying to authenticate username/code. Clicking close just reopens screen over and over in a loop, quitting the app and starting it back up takes it to the below screen over and over - until wifi is turned on then it starts ok.

Summary: AlDente Pro 1.0 Beta doesn't like not having internet access when starting up.

 

[tosbsas]

thanks

By the way - there is special GitHub page to talk about bugs and stuff in Pro Version

GitHub - davidwernhart/AlDente-Pro-Bug-Tracking

Contribute to davidwernhart/AlDente-Pro-Bug-Tracking development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[BigMcGuire]

thanks

By the way - there is special GitHub page to talk about bugs and stuff in Pro Version

GitHub - davidwernhart/AlDente-Pro-Bug-Tracking

Contribute to davidwernhart/AlDente-Pro-Bug-Tracking development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Oh wow I missed that - thank you!

 

[tps3443]

I just started using Aldente guys. What an amazing application! My MacBook Air M1 16GB/1TB machine has 12 Cycles so far. So I figured it is time to use this app.

What should I set my charge to limit at? 70%?

I wanted to purchase the Pro version of Aldente, but it says (Coming Soon) Any idea what that's about?

Anyways, I am worried about my battery health. It was just at 100% and had more than the designed capacity. But now, its at like 95.9% health per Coconut battery. Kinda sucks that it has depleted so badly. I have only charged my laptop to 100% twice since owning it. (And that was on purpose after seeing battery health rapidly decline from a 4,400Mah 100+% health to now a measly 4,200/95% in 2 days time)

 

[Apple_Robert]

I just started using Aldente guys. What an amazing application! My MacBook Air M1 16GB/1TB machine has 12 Cycles so far. So I figured it is time to use this app.

What should I set my charge to limit at? 70%?

I wanted to purchase the Pro version of Aldente, but it says (Coming Soon) Any idea what that's about?

Anyways, I am worried about my battery health. It was just at 100% and had more than the designed capacity. But now, its at like 95.9% health per Coconut battery. Kinda sucks that it has depleted so badly. I have only charged my laptop to 100% twice since owning it. (And that was on purpose after seeing battery health rapidly decline from a 4,400Mah 100+% health to now a measly 4,200/95% in 2 days time)

I currently have mine set at 60%. Anything between 60-80% should be fine. In an upcoming update, you will be able to schedule automatic battery calibration (where AlDente lets the battery drain to 15% before charging to 100%).

You will be able to purchase the pro version when it is released, which should be very soon. As stable as it is, I am guessing a few weeks at most.

Battery health fluctuates daily. Don't worry. You are fine.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Oh sure - sorry bout that.


AlDente Pro 1.0 Beta Bug Report

Steps to Recreate
1. Turn WiFi off.
2. Quit AlDente Pro 1.0 Beta and run app. (See image below)
3. AlDente crashes with the below screen trying to authenticate username/code. Clicking close just reopens screen over and over in a loop, quitting the app and starting it back up takes it to the below screen over and over - until wifi is turned on then it starts ok.

Summary: AlDente Pro 1.0 Beta doesn't like not having internet access when starting up.

View attachment 1758682

Good bug find.

 

[tps3443]

I currently have mine set at 60%. Anything between 60-80% should be fine. In an upcoming update, you will be able to schedule automatic battery calibration (where AlDente lets the battery drain to 15% before charging to 100%).

You will be able to purchase the pro version when it is released, which should be very soon. As stable as it is, I am guessing a few weeks at most.

Battery health fluctuates daily. Don't worry. You are fine.

It continues to drop daily. Now I am even further down at 4,181 max charge capacity. With 95% battery health while doing nothing. It feels like I lose about 25MAh every day. I hope it stops reducing soon. 200-220MAH already gone so far after the 12 cycle mark, with no signs of returning to that normal health of 98-100%.

 

[tommiy]

Great to see. I've been using AlDente since very early release and was one of the first lodging an issue. I like being able just to set the charge limit and leave it there. The having control part is missing in Apple as they don;t want a User to have control. I have not checked an update to the app since my first bug report. So today I upgraded once seeing this thread. I'm not sure about the copst for the Pro version. Seems a little high for a utility app with not that much functionality. It would be a shame to see the cost so high that the authors don;t get that much adoption. Of course Apple will eventually change their implementation and allow users to set the charge limit. I would have thought the marketing for AlDente would have been to try and get as many users to adopt before others provide the same features. Time will tell but I suspect a low price threshold would have resulte in a greater return on investment and potentially longevity of the app.

 

[mattdeezy]

What is sailing mode?

 

[tps3443]

I can't wait to get the Pro version of this software. Whoever made this software was genius. Although, I wish it wouldn't keep charging if we forget our MacBook is plugged in, and we close the lid.

 

[Mike Boreham]

What is sailing mode?

If you set the max charge to say 70% and the sailing difference to say 5%, it will charge to 70% and then not recharge the battery again until it drops to 65%. in this period the battery is effectively disconnected, with the machine running off the power supply. So the battery will just discharge at its natural decay rate. This could take a long time.

In normal mode, non-pro AlDente will maintain the charge at 70% by frequent small top ups. In Sailing mode this is replaced by a single much less frequent top up of 5% in the example.

Belief is that this is better for battery health, though I suspect the difference might not be great.

 

[mattdeezy]

If you set the max charge to say 70% and the sailing difference to say 5%, it will charge to 70% and then not recharge the battery again until it drops to 65%. in this period the battery is effectively disconnected, with the machine running off the power supply. So the battery will just discharge at its natural decay rate. This could take a long time.

In normal mode, non-pro AlDente will maintain the charge at 70% by frequent small top ups. In Sailing mode this is replaced by a single much less frequent top up of 5% in the example.

Belief is that this is better for battery health, though I suspect the difference might not be great.

Thanks for the explanation!

 

[BigMcGuire]

I can't wait to get the Pro version of this software. Whoever made this software was genius. Although, I wish it wouldn't keep charging if we forget our MacBook is plugged in, and we close the lid.

That must be an M1 thing? On my intel Mac, it would keep the battery level the same with the lid closed or the Mac off.

Edit: I am wrong about this apparently! Ignore the below!
The Pro version keeps my M1 MBP the same with lid closed/off despite being plugged in. So it’s coming!

 

[Mike Boreham]

That must be an M1 thing? On my intel Mac, it would keep the battery level the same with the lid closed or the Mac off. The Pro version keeps my M1 MBP the same with lid closed/off despite being plugged in. So it’s coming!

Thats odd. If I shut down my M1 MBA, running Pro version, and leave it plugged in, it charges up to 100%, as expected. How can AlDente limit charging with machine turned off?

I notice the Pro version has theses options:

....which seem reasonable. I assume the helper app can limit charging with the app closed, or machine sleeping.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Thats odd. If I shut down my M1 MBA, running Pro version, and leave it plugged in, it charges up to 100%, as expected. How can AlDente limit charging with machine turned off?

I notice the Pro version has theses options:

View attachment 1760337

....which seem reasonable. I assume the helper app can limit charging with the app closed, or machine sleeping.

You know what? I just realized that I put my laptop to sleep with the lid opened (I put it down but not all the way down) - so I may be wrong here! My bad!

I'll correct my original post.

I just closed my M1 and plugged it in (apparently I rarely do this). Figured putting it to sleep was the same? lol.

 

[leons]

Thats odd. If I shut down my M1 MBA, running Pro version, and leave it plugged in, it charges up to 100%, as expected. How can AlDente limit charging with machine turned off?

I notice the Pro version has theses options:

View attachment 1760337

....which seem reasonable. I assume the helper app can limit charging with the app closed, or machine sleeping.

Both those switches need to be moved to the rightmost position and charging will not occur when sleeing, closed, or the app itself is closed.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Thats odd. If I shut down my M1 MBA, running Pro version, and leave it plugged in, it charges up to 100%, as expected. How can AlDente limit charging with machine turned off?

I notice the Pro version has theses options:

View attachment 1760337

....which seem reasonable. I assume the helper app can limit charging with the app closed, or machine sleeping.

lol what am I doing different? I left my MBP 13' M1 plugged in with the lid closed for the last hour and it's still at 69% (where I have it set). I have both of those "allow charging" toggles off too.

<shrug> I'm special haha.

 

[Mc0]

How can I find the sailing mode? I downloaded the latest version 2.2. It’s running just fine on my MBP 2017 13”. Oh nevermind. Seems like I need the pro version. Pro doesn’t seem to be available publicly just yet.

 

[Mike Boreham]

Both those switches need to be moved to the rightmost position and charging will not occur when sleeing, closed, or the app itself is closed.

Interesting! The topic I was replying to was about what happens with machine shut down, so sleep and app closed are different issues, but what you say caused me to look more closely at these two, and I think there is something very confusing (to me) about them.

My interpretation by just looking at the settings as in the screenshot, is that with the slider in the left position charging is not allowed and I would have to move it to right position to allow. I would have to turn the setting ON by moving it to the right to allow charging.

You are saying the opposite, and looking at the drop down that appears when you hover I think you are correct.

Also I don't understand why the statement says that with charging inhibited you may overshoot desired percentage? Doesn't "Charging inhibited" mean no charging so how will it overshoot?

Does anybody else find this confusing?