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Mike Boreham

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lol what am I doing different? I left my MBP 13' M1 plugged in with the lid closed for the last hour and it's still at 69% (where I have it set). I have both of those "allow charging" toggles off too.

<shrug> I'm special :D haha.
Lid closed is not the same as shut down. I only said that mine charges up to 100% while plugged in and shut down. I also said it seemed plausible that the helper could limit charging with lid closed, which is what you are seeing.

I am confused about the sliders but think they do the opposite of what I first thought, as my post above. With the toggles in the OFF position as you have charging is allowed, which is what you are finding.
 
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Lid closed is not the same as shut down. I only said that mine charges up to 100% while plugged in and shut down. I also said it seemed plausible that the helper could limit charging with lid closed, which is what you are seeing.

I am confused about the sliders but think they do the opposite of what I first thought, as my post above. With the toggles in the OFF position as you have charging is allowed, which is what you are finding.
My bad again. I never shut down my Macs. Thanks for the clarification. I really should drink my coffee before I start posting - I'll sound a lot more intelligent.

Thanks for the info!

Also confused here. Interesting.
 

Mike Boreham

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My bad again. I never shut down my Macs. Thanks for the clarification. I really should drink my coffee before I start posting - I'll sound a lot more intelligent.

Thanks for the info!

Also confused here. Interesting.

I have posted the ambiguity of the wording in the Issues section at AlDente.
 
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I have posted the ambiguity of the wording in the Issues section at AlDente.
Yeah I think your interpretation of those two is correct.

"My interpretation by just looking at the settings as in the screenshot, is that with the slider in the left position charging is not allowed and I would have to move it to right position to allow. I would have to turn the setting ON by moving it to the right to allow charging."
 

Mike Boreham

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Yeah I think your interpretation of those two is correct.

"My interpretation by just looking at the settings as in the screenshot, is that with the slider in the left position charging is not allowed and I would have to move it to right position to allow. I would have to turn the setting ON by moving it to the right to allow charging."

Thanks! Glad it is not just me then! But I think we are wrong. Hopefully AlDente will change it something less ambiguous.
 
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Mike Boreham

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Thanks! Glad it is not just me then! But I think we are wrong. Hopefully AlDente will change it something less ambiguous.

MatthiasKerbl commented 13 hours ago

Hi @mikebore,
this is a little bit confusing right now and we already fixed it in our final version.
For now, the text next to the slider is the current state.
AlDente can not control the charging of your MacBook when your MacBook is asleep. Therefore, the MacBook will keep the charging state it had before going to sleep. When your MacBook is currently charging to your desired limit and your MacBook is going into sleep, it will overshoot your limit and charge to 100% since AlDente is not active while your MacBook is in sleep.
 
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Apple_Robert

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AlDente Pro has been released and is available for download. The new UI looks much better.

 

tommiy

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sadly BigSur only. I'll remain on the free version then. No intentions of heading to Bigsur at all until it reaches .6 or later. Unfortunate but even though Aldente is expensve i was thinking about it. Oh well I'll save my $.
 

Isamilis

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Just curious. It looks like this app made us more lazy than before, isn’t it? What burden us just unplug when it reach it max ie 75%? And plug in back when it reach 40%? What I see this app is very useful is it really helps when we forget to unplug at 75% (ie fall asleep, or in rush). But now, with more features, we become even more and more lazy than before.
Remember, this habit will also needed to all other device other than Mac, therefore once we apply it, it will save all their battery. We make ourselves complicated while the underlying issue is on our habit.
 

Apple_Robert

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Just curious. It looks like this app made us more lazy than before, isn’t it? What burden us just unplug when it reach it max ie 75%? And plug in back when it reach 40%? What I see this app is very useful is it really helps when we forget to unplug at 75% (ie fall asleep, or in rush). But now, with more features, we become even more and more lazy than before.
Remember, this habit will also needed to all other device other than Mac, therefore once we apply it, it will save all their battery. We make ourselves complicated while the underlying issue is on our habit.
It's not a matter of being too lazy. I am certainly not lazy at all. It is a matter of not being able to be present as often as we like, to be able to manage the battery optimization like it should be done. This app gives me the ability to manually control settings that correlate to when it is convenient for me to do so.
 
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emrelee

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Yes I have Coconut and it correctly shows "Charging with 0 watts". Of course the meter still shows 0.3/0.4A being supplied to run the machine from the charger.

You are doing a lot better than me, here is mine today:

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94.5% after 18 cycles :( For the first ten weeks it was plugged in nearly all the time with Apple Optimise Charging turned on. Then two weeks ago I started with AlDente, but fear the damage is done and I won't get that 6% back.
Did it dropped down to 94.5% after those weeks without discharging and without al Dante or did you noticed the charge capacity dropped after you started using al Dante? thanks.
 
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leons

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Great to see. I've been using AlDente since very early release and was one of the first lodging an issue. I like being able just to set the charge limit and leave it there. The having control part is missing in Apple as they don;t want a User to have control. I have not checked an update to the app since my first bug report. So today I upgraded once seeing this thread. I'm not sure about the copst for the Pro version. Seems a little high for a utility app with not that much functionality. It would be a shame to see the cost so high that the authors don;t get that much adoption. Of course Apple will eventually change their implementation and allow users to set the charge limit. I would have thought the marketing for AlDente would have been to try and get as many users to adopt before others provide the same features. Time will tell but I suspect a low price threshold would have resulte in a greater return on investment and potentially longevity of the app.
I think the price is reasonable for a lifetime of updates. And, I plan on living a long time! ?️‍♂️?️‍♀️?️‍♀️
 

Mike Boreham

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Did it dropped down to 94.5% after those weeks without discharging and without al Dante or did you noticed the charge capacity dropped after you started using al Dante? thanks.

The drop in capacity seems to have been a very sudden event on March 7th, not a gradual process. I was not aware of anything on March 7th to draw my attention. I only discovered later. Here is my Capacity history from Better Battery 2:

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The MBA was new on Nov 21st 2020, and I used Apple's Optimised Charging until I installed AlDente on Feb 18th.

During the three months with only Apple Optimised Charging I only saw it drop to 80% once briefly.

I really don't know what to make of this. I suspect that my battery had some unrelated (to charging control) event and hoping that AlDente makes the most of it from here on.

Incidentally, the Battery Pref Pane is still telling me that mine is 100%. I have seen reports of people who are already seeing the Apple Pref Pane reporting less than 100%, which I might have expected with mine.
 
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Javi74

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Does it launch at login properly in your MBAs? I've just installed it, and although I'm happy with it, if I reboot the computer it doesn't launch at login, although the "launch at login" checkbox is marked.
 
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