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leons

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With your routine, you still need to let the battery discharge to 15 - 20 and then charge to 100% twice a month.

I use the built-in Stickies app and have a sticky on my Home Screen that shows the dates when I did a full calibration of the battery. You might consider doing something like that as well.
Ok, thanks! Do you think my range (30% to 70%) is "optimal" for the battery?

BTW, does anyone know of an app that has an option to RELIABLY alert me when the battery level goes done so a set level (in my case 30%)?
 

Apple_Robert

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Ok, thanks! Do you think my range (30% to 70% is "optimal" for the battery?

BTW, does anyone know of an app that has an option to RELIABLY alert me when the battery level goes done so a set level (in my case 30%)?
There is nothing wrong with what you are doing.

Create a Siri shortcut that alerts you when your battery gets to 30%.
 
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leons

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There is nothing wrong with what you are doing.

Create a Siri shortcut that alerts you when your battery gets to 30%.
OK, I was only asking because I am usually in one place when I am using it, so I could adjust the percentages to any that are optimal for the battery with no effect on my workflow.

How to Siri Shortcut? I thought that the Shortcut app was not available on Mac?
 

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OK, I was only asking because I am usually in one place when I am using it, so I could adjust the percentages to any that are optimal for the battery with no effect on my workflow.

How to Siri Shortcut? I thought that the Shortcut app was not available on Mac?
The Siri shortcut on the phone would be loud enough to alert you about the Mac.
 

leons

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The Siri shortcut on the phone would be loud enough to alert you about the Mac.
I'm confused? The Siri shortcut on the phone can "know" the percentage of my MBA battery?

Also, can/should calibration be done while using the computer? Or is it better when not?
 

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I'm confused? The Siri shortcut on the phone can "know" the percentage of my MBA battery?

Also, can/should calibration be done while using the computer? Or is it better when not?
If you want to keep it simple, take a look at AirBuddy.


There is also the app "Cloud Battery" which shows you all your battery levels at once.
 

leons

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If you want to keep it simple, take a look at AirBuddy.


There is also the app "Cloud Battery" which shows you all your battery levels at once.
Thanks! Soon I'll hire you as my personal consultant! :) (But, hopefully, these questions are relevant for others)!

About the calibration? Should it be done at night or is it o.k. to do while using (parasitic)?
 

BigMcGuire

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Who has been using this software for YEARS and can speak to positive results?
I first found out about Al Dente early last year. I think it's fairly new to the market. I've been using it for a bit less than a year - they have their code on Github and recently went to a charge model (while keeping the free previous versions available). https://github.com/davidwernhart/AlDente/releases

Definitely positive results seen. Compared to my 2017 MBP that spent most of its time plugged in, I'm seeing far less battery degradation. I saw it on my 2020 MBP and I'm seeing it on my M1 MBP. Batteries are a LOT happier kept at 60-80% when plugged in most of the time.
 
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alizain

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I am very new to aldente and macbook m1 as well, i will appreciate if anyone provide me information about,

1. Is charge limit remain permanent after setting it with aldente even if we close/uninstall the application?
2. Is there any CLI version of aldente or any alternative?
3. Is it void apple warranty by modifying SMC?
 

Minga089

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Is it just me or does using AlDente (Pro) impact the battery temperature? My average battery temperature increased about 1-2C since I have been using Al Dente Pro.
 

BigMcGuire

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I am very new to aldente and macbook m1 as well, i will appreciate if anyone provide me information about,

1. Is charge limit remain permanent after setting it with aldente even if we close/uninstall the application?
2. Is there any CLI version of aldente or any alternative?
3. Is it void apple warranty by modifying SMC?
3. I've been using AlDente for over a year on my MacBook and my wife's MacBook. My wife's MacBook had its battery replaced earlier this year - no problems with warranty.
1. As long as you don't crash Mac OS or do a long reboot (holding power down for awhile) - the charge level remains. Keep this in mind when uninstalling the application.
 
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BigMcGuire

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Is it just me or does using AlDente (Pro) impact the battery temperature? My average battery temperature increased about 1-2C since I have been using Al Dente Pro.
Battery temperature is slightly higher yes because it's actually using the battery keeping it "exercised" in a way - vs running completely off of wall power. However, keeping your battery at 60-70% is far better for the battery than 100% even if it does cycle a little more.

I don't know if I'd say AlDente is impacting the battery - it's just the swinging battery charging / discharging that creates a little heat.
 
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Minga089

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Battery temperature is slightly higher yes because it's actually using the battery keeping it "exercised" in a way - vs running completely off of wall power. However, keeping your battery at 60-70% is far better for the battery than 100% even if it does cycle a little more.

I don't know if I'd say AlDente is impacting the battery - it's just the swinging battery charging / discharging that creates a little heat.
Ok thank you. I am just a litte worried. My battery now hits 35-36C when I use it docked with external monitors. I never reached those numbers before (34C was max).
 
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BigMcGuire

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Ok thank you. I am just a litte worried. My battery now hits 35-36C when I use it docked with external monitors. I never reached those numbers before (34C was max).
My work provided 2019 MBP 15 is sitting at 35.4C right now but I have it hooked up to a 4k monitor (albeit via an eGPU) but I've noticed that the MBP won't run the system fan and let the insides get really warm before turning on the system fan.

I'd say 35C is better at 70% charge than 34C at 100% charge. It should cool way down when idling and doing nothing though. But when I'm working, (as I am now) with Parallels and 20 other applications up, it's normal for my battery to be at bout 35C or so. <shrug>. My M1 MBP's battery is always super cold no matter what. lol.
 
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Minga089

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My work provided 2019 MBP 15 is sitting at 35.4C right now but I have it hooked up to a 4k monitor (albeit via an eGPU) but I've noticed that the MBP won't run the system fan and let the insides get really warm before turning on the system fan.

I'd say 35C is better at 70% charge than 34C at 100% charge. It should cool way down when idling and doing nothing though. But when I'm working, (as I am now) with Parallels and 20 other applications up, it's normal for my battery to be at bout 35C or so. <shrug>. My M1 MBP's battery is always super cold no matter what. lol.
I use a 16" MBP without an eGPU and that means the beefy internal dGPU is active as soon I use an external monitor (open lid). That means there is no real "cooling down" and the machine sits at 60C (CPU) and 33-34C battery temperature at idle. If I use it in clamshell mode (just 1 external screen) it's cooler but that has to do with the Radeon GPU (always draws 5W at idle with 1 external monitor in clamshell mode vs 18W with lid open + external monitor).

The fans are inaudible though which should mean that it's fine with 34C. If I do more demanding stuff the fan speed and overall temperatures increase of course but the battery always stays at 34C max.

Now with AlDente everything ist the same except for for the battery temperature sitting at 35-36C when using my MBP with an external monitor and lid open.
 
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BigMcGuire

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I use a 16" MBP without an eGPU and that means the beefy internal dGPU is active as soon I use an external monitor (open lid). That means there is no real "cooling down" and the machine sits at 60C (CPU) and 33-34C battery temperature at idle. If I use it in clamshell mode (just 1 external screen) it's cooler but that has to do with the Radeon GPU (always draws 5W at idle with 1 external monitor in clamshell mode vs 18W with lid open + external monitor).

The fans are inaudible though which should mean that it's fine with 34C. If I do more demanding stuff the fan speed and overall temperatures increase of course but the battery always stays at 34C max.

Now with AlDente everything ist the same except for for the battery temperature sitting at 35-36C when using my MBP with an external monitor and lid open.
How interesting! I bet you know more about this stuff than I do. I never knew that the dGPU would do that - I do know that without the eGPU the fans of this 15' MBP drive me insane (which is why I use the eGPU lol!).

But yeah, to your original statement - I've noticed the battery a few C warmer by doing the limiting as well.
 
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Mike Boreham

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Ok thank you. I am just a litte worried. My battery now hits 35-36C when I use it docked with external monitors. I never reached those numbers before (34C was max).

Are you using the AlDente Heat Protection setting? If so what value

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alizain

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3. I've been using AlDente for over a year on my MacBook and my wife's MacBook. My wife's MacBook had its battery replaced earlier this year - no problems with warranty.
1. As long as you don't crash Mac OS or do a long reboot (holding power down for awhile) - the charge level remains. Keep this in mind when uninstalling the application.
Thanks really appreciate your answer, i installed the aldente and after setting the charging limit closed the application as too many icons bothers me.
 
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BigMcGuire

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No I don't, but correct me if I am wrong: That setting only applies for charging anyway? When I charge my MB it isn't connected to an external monitor and almost never even used during charging so the battery temperature is somewhere in the 20s.
Just an fyi - I ended up enabling Intel mode on my 2019 MBP because it kept charging to 100% when I didn't want it to (fixed that problem) - but it seems to turn off all the other options.

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On my M1 MBP everything else is on.
 
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BigMcGuire

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Thanks really appreciate your answer, i installed the aldente and after setting the charging limit closed the application as too many icons bothers me.
Same, I hate tons of icons. I wish there was a way to hide it all together.
 
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