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grmax5

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Apr 23, 2015
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Very disappointing as there are already many other adapters that are perfectly acceptable. This was my first and last kickstarter backing.....
 

leeingham

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Apr 9, 2015
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You can't get a refund because that's not how Kickstarter works. You have agreed to invest in an idea, the campaign has ended, and your money has been taken for investment purposes. You have not pre-ordered a product.

It's surprising just how many people don't get that about Kickstarter or similar funding sites.

I do get it just given we are PAST the shipping dates im sure that must class as not agreed what I purchased etc etc
 

lewisd25

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Jul 6, 2007
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I've experienced way too many disappointments with Kickstarter campaigns in the past. Click is definitely the last time I help "fund" amateurs who don't know what they are doing.
 
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wesk702

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Jul 7, 2007
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The hood
Again, you must stop thinking of it as being a purchase. You funded a project. Period. You will eventually get a nice gift for having funded this project, but you didn't order anything.

Exactly. Which is what many don't understand. People also have to invest in a unique idea, not something the Chinese factories can flip out in a matter of days from leaked specs. The one and only kickstarter I backed was the flybridge which brings me awesome use everyday.
 
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pooleman

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Jan 11, 2012
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I think since click has a spring pin, it will be easier to swap bands than finding the tiny pentalobe screwdriver and taking everything apart, then putting it back together. At least that is why I like the Click adapters. And they are supposed to be matching aluminum too.
I prefer the non spring type adapters. They seem more secure.
 

Mac2me

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Jun 10, 2015
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Kickstarter-type programs are you basically funding a small startup company's product. You are an investor of sorts. I hope you guys who participated in the kickstarter program make out okay. Definitely not a given and I know you have been waiting for some time for them to produce the adapters.

I prefer the non spring type adapters. They seem more secure.

Pooleman, be sure if you go the classic adapter route that when you put the band on them that you use appropriate threadlocker liquid on the screws (something specified by Apple to band developers in their guidelines). When installing the screws be sure to wait for the appropriate cure time for it to set or you will find somewhere down the road that the small screws will fall out and the tubular holder will drop off along with your band and the watch. You'll want threadlocker with a light hold that allows the screws to be removed with tools or else I guess you have to cut apart the adapter or band to get it off the adapter. I bought Loctite 222 (purple) for tiny screws but haven't done anything with my classic adapters yet, some have used the loctite blue for larger screws. Might want to check out some other posts about it. Only use the screws once if you have applied the threadlocker to them.

http://www.henkelna.com/product-sea...53089&msdsLanguage=EN_US&selectedTab=document
I ordered mine from an Amazon reseller.
 
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broadbean

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Jun 10, 2007
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I regret withdrawing from this Kickstarter project completely. I should've paid a buck so I could comment on the site! LOL

"Click - The First Watch Band Adapter for Apple Watch!"

and then to the right, "Pre-Order Now!"

Just gold.

Having said that, I hope it's just a case of in over their heads; meant well, executed poor; not focussed; but hey, look how much we got funded!

Must be disappointing for the creators as well as they could see the market passing them by, and they could've sold so many, many more adapters if they had just stuck with their original intention, met internal deadlines and shipped the damned things!
 

gppittjk

macrumors regular
Sep 19, 2012
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I prefer the non spring type adapters. They seem more secure.

It's extremely unlikely that spring bar adapters would be less secure than the Apple-style adapters. For one, the Apple-style ones have three points of potential failure in their locking mechanism: the two screws (which have been a real problem for third-party adapter buyers - seriously, you have to buy Loctite just to make sure they work?) and the connection point in the middle of the bar. Meanwhile, springbar adapters really only have two potential points of failure and will only fail if you somehow get a faulty springbar. Given that watches have used springbars for many, many years, and that the rate of failure of those has been minimal, I'd go with springbars every time.
 

broadbean

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Jun 10, 2007
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It's extremely unlikely that spring bar adapters would be less secure than the Apple-style adapters. For one, the Apple-style ones have three points of potential failure in their locking mechanism: the two screws (which have been a real problem for third-party adapter buyers - seriously, you have to buy Loctite just to make sure they work?) and the connection point in the middle of the bar. Meanwhile, springbar adapters really only have two potential points of failure and will only fail if you somehow get a faulty springbar. Given that watches have used springbars for many, many years, and that the rate of failure of those has been minimal, I'd go with springbars every time.

Pretty unlikely while the adapter is attached to the Watch.
 

gppittjk

macrumors regular
Sep 19, 2012
143
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Pretty unlikely while the adapter is attached to the Watch.
Just reading through the 3rd party strap thread, some of these adaptors do seem to be failing while folks are wearing their watches. Some of them are even from more reputable companies like Clockworksynergy. Haven't heard about a single instance where the springbar mechanism fails while someone is wearing their watch.

Either way, the fact that a second product (Loctite) is pretty much necessary should show that it's less secure than a springbar.
 

broadbean

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Jun 10, 2007
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Just reading through the 3rd party strap thread, some of these adaptors do seem to be failing while folks are wearing their watches. Some of them are even from more reputable companies like Clockworksynergy. Haven't heard about a single instance where the springbar mechanism fails while someone is wearing their watch.

Either way, the fact that a second product (Loctite) is pretty much necessary should show that it's less secure than a springbar.

Come to think of it, if the screw threads are not matched, it's not holding the bars properly. The Loctite is only meant to stop the screws from "unscrewing", not meant to hold the bar like glue.
 

bigdog5142

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2008
687
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MI
Ultimately, we were supposed to get our Click adapters and bands in June...that was the promise. I ordered based on that promise. I fully understand Kickstarter and was hoping by the end of June/early July. There were NO adapters out there and no one knew what adapters would come out when.

Fast forward to now...adapters have been VERY available. Bands are ALL over the place. I now have a HOCO band and a link bracelet knock-off coming from Freedomclock09. The frustration is not born from people that don't understand Kickstarter (though that is some of it)...the frustration is from the fact that there are SO MANY adapters and watchbands being sold all OVER the place...and Click can't get their project done. Why is that? It was probably mis-managed or balls were dropped.

It's unfortunate because Click may have a nice product...but now they will be nothing but a blip on most people's radars...and I'll probably only use the leather band I get from them. We'll see...but their adapters will probably end up in my drawer...especially now that we've seen the 24mm adapters and the Click is a 22!
 

Phisherman81

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Mar 26, 2010
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If they can deliver on a matching aluminum SGS adapter, I'd still buy it. I'm still a little stunned that there are no matching adapters for the SGS.

I think all of the apple bands are 22mm once they taper down to the strap. I wear a 22mm band on a set of the bar-style adapters and there is definitely space on the bar, but the band size looks so much better proportionately compared to the 24mm bands I have.
 

ianfann

macrumors 6502
Oct 12, 2014
261
151
Ultimately, we were supposed to get our Click adapters and bands in June...that was the promise. I ordered based on that promise. I fully understand Kickstarter and was hoping by the end of June/early July. There were NO adapters out there and no one knew what adapters would come out when.

Fast forward to now...adapters have been VERY available. Bands are ALL over the place. I now have a HOCO band and a link bracelet knock-off coming from Freedomclock09. The frustration is not born from people that don't understand Kickstarter (though that is some of it)...the frustration is from the fact that there are SO MANY adapters and watchbands being sold all OVER the place...and Click can't get their project done. Why is that? It was probably mis-managed or balls were dropped.

It's unfortunate because Click may have a nice product...but now they will be nothing but a blip on most people's radars...and I'll probably only use the leather band I get from them. We'll see...but their adapters will probably end up in my drawer...especially now that we've seen the 24mm adapters and the Click is a 22!
I find their KS video introduction very sketchy. No details were given and I ordered it back then was because of the fact that they were the only ones that have those type of adapters and they projected to deliver it in June.
 

bigdog5142

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2008
687
279
MI
If they can deliver on a matching aluminum SGS adapter, I'd still buy it. I'm still a little stunned that there are no matching adapters for the SGS.

I think all of the apple bands are 22mm once they taper down to the strap. I wear a 22mm band on a set of the bar-style adapters and there is definitely space on the bar, but the band size looks so much better proportionately compared to the 24mm bands I have.
You make a good point there. Those that have the sport (especially the silver) have had some difficulty finding adapters to match up well. If they can accomplish that, they will hit a MAJORITY of  Watch customers. I had forgotten that fact.

I have the HOCO band for my SS watch and it's a 25mm band...I think it looks pretty good. I think the 24 looks a bit better (I had the Android Tungsten band...but decided to go with the link knockoff) and I'm excited to get the link band knockoff from Freedomclock09 that has the taper from the watch to the clasp. I have larger wrists, so the larger band looks better on me IMO. However I have the sport band and I don't feel like it looks bad.

Ultimately, I just want my adapters and bands!
 

broadbean

macrumors 6502a
Jun 10, 2007
782
333
Ultimately, we were supposed to get our Click adapters and bands in June...that was the promise. I ordered based on that promise. I fully understand Kickstarter and was hoping by the end of June/early July. There were NO adapters out there and no one knew what adapters would come out when.

Fast forward to now...adapters have been VERY available. Bands are ALL over the place. I now have a HOCO band and a link bracelet knock-off coming from Freedomclock09. The frustration is not born from people that don't understand Kickstarter (though that is some of it)...the frustration is from the fact that there are SO MANY adapters and watchbands being sold all OVER the place...and Click can't get their project done. Why is that? It was probably mis-managed or balls were dropped.

I went back and reread their campaign and product on KS. Was the polymer solution ever going to work? Did more people hop on when they investigated then offered metal adapters? I certainly did. But they got too distracted from their original polymer design to metal as well(!), and bands.

I wouldn't be surprised they are now looking at losing money on the polymer adapters that no one wants to buy, nor make! You could imagine more Chinese manufacturers geared towards metal adapters than polymer. Yet if they didn't deliver those, they might have to refund a lot of backers?

They saw an opportunity, and I for one was looking at a product I could use ASAP, knowing full well I had a strong chance getting a Watch Sport at or near launch and needed something less "casual" for work. Not only were Apple's bands more expensive (apart from the black Sport Band), they were also delayed.

I think they were ambitious, poorly organised, couldn't handle the outrageous success from the KS funding. To think they started designing it since late last year, to be first off the block and gaining all that support and goodwill, it's just really, really sad it's turned out.

Sometimes the difference between success and failure could be making just one or two wrong decisions.

And I repeat...ultimately none of us ordered anything. We donated to a project, knowing that in return we would get samples of the product being made.

LOL, aunt that the truth!
 
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