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Sunsean

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YMMV of course, but the thing that makes iOS stand out for me is the stability, the Appstore (Google play is absolutely awful), the seemless way it integrates with my iMac and iPad (I have a windows machine too just in case you were wondering ;)), and above all, the timely updates.

If android can sort out the update situation and they can get Android stable over various devices, then maybe I'll think about switching back.
As it is though, the iPhone just oozes quality I find lacking in Android at the moment.

+1 This is ultimately what led me from Android to the iphone - the quality of the experience. Android has a lot of pros, but the ultimate user experience, from the ecosystem with my imac at home, to the fluidity and crispness of the UI and apps, is offerred by Apple and ios. As they say "It just works."
 

BiggAW

macrumors 68030
Jun 19, 2010
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Connecticut
If you have an older model iPhone, you get left out when that new iPhone comes out and you're not eligible for it (although you can do Craigslist).

And with Android, you don't get software updates for months and months and months, whereas with Apple you get them a few days before the new phones come out.

And with Android, your phone is obsolete a month later when something new comes out.

I had Android, and I got tired of installing ROM after ROM just to keep up to date.
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
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And with Android, you don't get software updates for months and months and months, whereas with Apple you get them a few days before the new phones come out.

And with Android, your phone is obsolete a month later when something new comes out.

I had Android, and I got tired of installing ROM after ROM just to keep up to date.

That is, unless you get the Galaxy Nexus or newest Google device. Android updates must also pass through the carrier for testing. Software has to be tweaked by both the manufacturer and carrier, too.
 

b24pgg

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Jan 28, 2009
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And with Android, your phone is obsolete a month later when something new comes out.
Not everyone is a slave to consumerism that has to own the latest gadget the day it's released.

Just because a new device is coming out in a month doesn't mean the one you have is going to automatically stop working.
 

Walter Bell

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Mar 25, 2010
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Not everyone is a slave to consumerism that has to own the latest gadget the day it's released.

Just because a new device is coming out in a month doesn't mean the one you have is going to automatically stop working.

Not only will it continue to work, it isn't obsolete either.
 

Walter Bell

macrumors regular
Mar 25, 2010
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But it sure does mean that the resale value of your few month old Android device is going to plummet. iPhones don't have this problem.

Couldn't imagine how pissed I would be if I bought the Droid Razr and after a month the Droid Razr Maxx came out.

Thank god as iPhone users we don't have this type of nonsense :p

No but the trade off is that we have to stay with the same tech with no improvements. Something sucks? Gotta wait a Year. Want LTE? Gotta wait a year. Want a fix for attenagate? Gotta wait a year.
 

sracer

macrumors G4
Apr 9, 2010
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A lot of developers upload their personal apps to the App Store as free apps to avoid that.

That's partly why I prefer using Android for apps for my family and myself. I also enjoy being able to create my own apps for my Android watch, the WIMM One.
How do you upload personal apps to the app store without a developer's account?
 

BiggAW

macrumors 68030
Jun 19, 2010
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That is, unless you get the Galaxy Nexus or newest Google device. Android updates must also pass through the carrier for testing. Software has to be tweaked by both the manufacturer and carrier, too.

That's the problem. They both slow things down. And sometimes, refuse to update at all. AT&T and Samsuck won't update the SGS to ICS because "it doesn't have enough memory". Yeah, when they add all the bloat. They are pretty much lying, as XDA has several ICS ROMs running on that phone. And that gets me to another problem. In order to have a decent ROM, you have to figure out how to install a 3rd party one from XDA, wipe the device, and then re-install all your software every time a new ROM comes out. ARGH. And they all customize slightly differently.

Yes, the GE devices are immune from that problem, but very few have them. Verizon is even hanging up the updates on the CDMA Gnexs.

Not everyone is a slave to consumerism that has to own the latest gadget the day it's released.

Just because a new device is coming out in a month doesn't mean the one you have is going to automatically stop working.

You completely missed the point.

How do you upload personal apps to the app store without a developer's account?

Side load?
 

jeffe

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Feb 17, 2008
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resale value means nothing unless you are going to sell your phone.

But it sure does mean that the resale value of your few month old Android device is going to plummet. iPhones don't have this problem.

Couldn't imagine how pissed I would be if I bought the Droid Razr and after a month the Droid Razr Maxx came out.

Thank god as iPhone users we don't have this type of nonsense :p
 

Virgo

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Jun 7, 2011
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I had the iPhone 4S for a few months and had to switch to the Samsung Galaxy S2 when it got stolen. I love my new phone for the screen size and snappy 4G that I can tether to my iPad. Also it complements the iPad by not being redundant (iOS)
 

jeffe

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Feb 17, 2008
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I don't understand your comment considering a consumer could purchase a brand new samsung galaxy sII for as low as $9.99 on contract and also forgoe any device protection/insurance plan since the replacement cost of the phone would drop so quickly as you say.

This customer would probably spend less money buying and replacing there hypothetical lost/stolen/broken phone than an iphone user buying a single device plus protection.


Sure... throwing money away makes perfect sense :rolleyes:
 

sracer

macrumors G4
Apr 9, 2010
10,405
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Side load?
My original complaint was about the tightly closed iOS ecosystem where Apple requires a developer to pay $99 a year (for a developer's account) simply to be able to install a personally developed app on that developer's personally owned iOS device.

kdarling responded with, "A lot of developers upload their personal apps to the App Store as free apps to avoid that."

There is no way that I know of to get apps into the App Store without a developer's account.

I am completely stumped as to how your response of "Side load" fits into the discussion. I'm sorry for being overly dense, but how does that fit in with the issue I raised? :confused:
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
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Funny how people converting to Android still mention having an iPad. If you believe Android is so superior to iOS and you drool over specs, why don't you have Xooms or Transformers? I have seen comments saying they don't like Android on tablets...but it's the same OS they claim is so much better. Ah the contradictions.
 

jeffe

macrumors 6502a
Feb 17, 2008
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Are you kidding? It really can't be too far fetched to imagine that some people prefer Android on there phones while also preferring the IPAD over the current android tablet implementation. People also buy tablets for different reasons than the phones. What is interesting is the trend of people choosing the Galaxy Note and using it to fill the role of a phone and tablet.


Funny how people converting to Android still mention having an iPad. If you believe Android is so superior to iOS and you drool over specs, why don't you have Xooms or Transformers? I have seen comments saying they don't like Android on tablets...but it's the same OS they claim is so much better. Ah the contradictions.
 

0m3ga

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Mar 1, 2012
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Funny how people converting to Android still mention having an iPad. If you believe Android is so superior to iOS and you drool over specs, why don't you have Xooms or Transformers? I have seen comments saying they don't like Android on tablets...but it's the same OS they claim is so much better. Ah the contradictions.

Well i can tell you that I have an ipad2, and an HP Touchpad with both WebOS and Android ICS 4.0.4 installed in the CM9 dual boot configuration. yes, I have converted to Android in the sense that I use my Touchpad with ICS on it, as Much as I use my ipad2.

I do not believe that ios or Android or WebOS are superior to any other OS, just different. And trust me when I say, the re is nothing wrong with ICS, where the faults lie is with the hardware and the crap UI a manufacturer throws on top of ICS.
 
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kevinof

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2008
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I don't get these arguments. My fathers Sg2 is not obsolete to him. Yes there is a newer model of some other Android phone out but that makes no difference to him. He's delighted with his phone and his choice.

Also on the ROM thing. I have a galaxy nexus and haven't put on a custom rom. Neither has my father. Yes if you want to tweak you have that choice but the majority of android users will never install a custom rom.

And with Android, you don't get software updates for months and months and months, whereas with Apple you get them a few days before the new phones come out.

And with Android, your phone is obsolete a month later when something new comes out.

I had Android, and I got tired of installing ROM after ROM just to keep up to date.
 

panzer06

macrumors 68040
Sep 23, 2006
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Kilrath
Funny how people converting to Android still mention having an iPad. If you believe Android is so superior to iOS and you drool over specs, why don't you have Xooms or Transformers? I have seen comments saying they don't like Android on tablets...but it's the same OS they claim is so much better. Ah the contradictions.

Because after trying a Xoom for a year the iPad with its flaws is still a more stable solid device. Doesn't mean I'll go back to an iPhone (unless they come out with a 4.5" or bigger screen). Right now I prefer my Samsung gs2

Cheers,
 

ChazUK

macrumors 603
Feb 3, 2008
5,393
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Essex (UK)
Funny how people converting to Android still mention having an iPad. If you believe Android is so superior to iOS and you drool over specs, why don't you have Xooms or Transformers? I have seen comments saying they don't like Android on tablets...but it's the same OS they claim is so much better. Ah the contradictions.

I've recently bought a Transformer (upgraded from the Xoom) and will be getting an iPad to use alongside it so as to have a "best of both world" scenario going on.

When it comes to a smartphone handset, the "at a glance" information that Android supplies with widgets and Windows Phone with live tiles, plus the notification lights on both my Galaxy Nexus and HTC Titan are something I personally prefer which is why an iPhone is not my preferred handset.

To top this all off, I'll most likely pick up an ARM based Windows 8 tablet once they arrive as most of the stuff that's been shown off on Win8 tablet wise has impressed me.

Why should anyone lock themselves into one platform when they can happily enjoy many?

Contradictions? Perhaps some people aren't so rabidly attached to a single platform as you expect them to be.
 
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maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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Funny how people converting to Android still mention having an iPad. If you believe Android is so superior to iOS and you drool over specs, why don't you have Xooms or Transformers? I have seen comments saying they don't like Android on tablets...but it's the same OS they claim is so much better. Ah the contradictions.

You realize that we're talking about two different devices. Just because someone has an android phone, means they need to get an android tablet.

I buy the best tool that suites my needs, if that's an android phone great, if that's a tablet so be it. Why do people who get phone be married to the platform?
 

Sketchr

macrumors 6502a
Jun 15, 2009
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You realize that we're talking about two different devices. Just because someone has an android phone, means they need to get an android tablet.

I buy the best tool that suites my needs, if that's an android phone great, if that's a tablet so be it. Why do people who get phone be married to the platform?

Agreed. I mean look at me...I have iPhone, android, iPad and Mac. I use some PC for biz....what does that make me? Wait, don't answer that :D

Point is that your should use what suits your needs at the time. Not a one size fits all platform conformity.
 

cmChimera

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Feb 12, 2010
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I don't understand your comment considering a consumer could purchase a brand new samsung galaxy sII for as low as $9.99 on contract and also forgoe any device protection/insurance plan since the replacement cost of the phone would drop so quickly as you say.

This customer would probably spend less money buying and replacing there hypothetical lost/stolen/broken phone than an iphone user buying a single device plus protection.
Contract system that carriers impose pretty much makes everything you are saying look like nonsense.

No but the trade off is that we have to stay with the same tech with no improvements. Something sucks? Gotta wait a Year. Want LTE? Gotta wait a year. Want a fix for attenagate? Gotta wait a year.
How is this any different than Android users? The contract system with carriers isn't exactly friendly to people that want to buy a phone every month.

Not everyone is a slave to consumerism that has to own the latest gadget the day it's released.

Just because a new device is coming out in a month doesn't mean the one you have is going to automatically stop working.

It's not good either way. Besides the already stated point of resale value, no one likes to buy a phone, like it, and then a month later see the exact same phone with better battery life, or a better display. No your phone doesn't stop working, but you end up regretting the purchase because you could have bought a better phone if you waited. It has nothing to do with being a slave and everything to do with not wanting to be screwed by the seller.
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
737
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Because after trying a Xoom for a year the iPad with its flaws is still a more stable solid device. Doesn't mean I'll go back to an iPhone (unless they come out with a 4.5" or bigger screen). Right now I prefer my Samsung gs2

Cheers,

The only thing that makes the iPad more solid and stable is iOS. So you choose to have a phone with a less solid and stable Android OS because it has....a bigger screen? Lol, ridiculous.

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You realize that we're talking about two different devices. Just because someone has an android phone, means they need to get an android tablet.

I buy the best tool that suites my needs, if that's an android phone great, if that's a tablet so be it. Why do people who get phone be married to the platform?

Because both tablet and phone run the same OS. Logic says you would want the same platform phone and tablet just to share apps being one reason. I had an iPad but an Android phone and it was stupid. I had to buy several apps more than once. If you have an iPad and an iPhone, no need to. Not to mention some of the apps are different between the iOS version and the Android version. Saying that iOS is too "walled" in or too controlling but then owning an iPad running ios just makes you look silly.
 
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