Wrong yet again. Read my last post with proof from analysts Google includes both the Fire and the Nook in "Android" tablet sales Also, Amazon USED to block access to the market but began allowing access to the market back in Dec.
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Wrong yet again. Read my last post with proof from analysts Google includes both the Fire and the Nook in "Android" tablet sales Also, Amazon USED to block access to the market but began allowing access to the market back in Dec.
Amazon used to convert Android Market links into Kindle Appstore links from the browser but no longer do so after criticism.
Because the Android Market is not installed on the Fire, all that opens now is the web based Android Market from which you can't download anything because the Fire lacks the necessary Google applications to utilise Android Market so no, Amazon haven't began allowing access to Android Market.
You seem to know little of how closed the Kindle Fire is.
BTW, Strategy Analytics numbers are NOT from Google. SA are an independent Analytics company.
http://www.strategyanalytics.com/
Minus the fact that you failed to read. I said Google which proves your first thing wrong saying Google counts them. Your links do nothing to address that.
You mbell have been moving the goal post and have been mostly spreading FUD and being caught at it.
So why do analysts and writers everywhere include kindle fire and nook sales with Android tablets? They are all wrong and a few guys on this forum are right?
Not everybody visits tech sites and reads up on various devices before making a purchase.
I bought the original iPhone because of its' brilliant marketing campaign and the fact that I'd never seen anything like it before. Did I expect it not to be able to send a text message to multiple people or forward a text message? No. Some things can only be learned by the experience of actually using a device. You can't research every feature otherwise you'd never buy anything!
So why do analysts and writers everywhere include kindle fire and nook sales with Android tablets? They are all wrong and a few guys on this forum are right?
Lets follow the flow of conversation shall we?
In this post Rodimus is directly referencing Google's activation numbers. You followed with:
By this context, the "they" you are referencing is Google.
Rodimus responds:
You fired back with:
Referencing an independent companies analytics on the tablet market who's numbers are not affiliated with Google.
I'm not sure how good your English is or if you have any difficulties following a conversation so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but Rodimus was always referencing Google's activation figures, not those of independent analytics companies.
The moment Google starts blowing their own trumpet over Kindle Fire market penetration I'd be beside you in crying "BS" but as it stands Google have only ever included devices that meet Google's compatibility requirements for Market access.
You just need to learn how to root thing thing. Market works fine on mine, just some apps won't load because of no camera/GPS/cell.
Having owned all 3 iPads, I knew what to expect with iOS so it wasn't a big change really. To be honest, I wish the screen were a bit bigger, adding a custom ringtone was easier and I could swap in a new keyboard and dialer but I can live with it. I will gladly exchange these things for an OS that is far more stable, apps that actually work right, an OS I don't have to baby and make sure I close out of an app that will drain my battery, a phone that doesn't force close and crash and a phone where I know I will get the new OS update the very day its released. I won't have to sit around for 6 months wondering if my phone will ever get it or if I have to buy a new phone at retail price just to get the new OS. Done with that BS and loving the iPhone
It's great that these devices can be modified to install Android Market on non-complaint hardware (I did exactly that on my old Archos 5 Internet Tablet when I had it - man I love to tinker with things!
) but I doubt the ability to do so would have significant impact on Google's android activation figures.If every Kindle fire was sold with Market access from the start, things may be different but as Amazon seem to be having vastly more success with app sales compared to the Play Market, I doubt that it is a huge thing for every Fire owner out there.
It's great that these devices can be modified to install Android Market on non-complaint hardware (I did exactly that on my old Archos 5 Internet Tablet when I had it - man I love to tinker with things!
If every Kindle fire was sold with Market access from the start, things may be different but as Amazon seem to be having vastly more success with app sales compared to the Play Market, I doubt that it is a huge thing for every Fire owner out there.
Somehow, the Amazon market sells more than the Google Market. Probably partly due to the Kindle Fire. Yes, it's fracturing the market to the extreme, but at the same time, that's the flexibility allowed by Android. That device might not exist at that price point if it weren't for Android allowing manufacturers to do whatever they want with it.
Well the Galaxy S 1 is getting a "value pack update, at least. Most XDA devs take stuff out of the ROMs to make it run better and faster so in a sense, Samsung may be telling the truth. The only reason, in my eyes, that you'd want to root is to run a newer OS version before it comes out or if you want system level tweaks. Otherwise, all the customization you need is available without root. When you root, you should realize that you'll have to set everything up again, etc. Most people root because A) they don't know how or what it is or B) because the OS they have already runs fine for what they need and they have no need to root.
Um, no...you dont need to set up anything when you root. Not sure what you even mean there. You can root your phone and it doesnt change anything. It just gives the user permission to access their own files. It is just like SSH on the iPhone only you dont need to log in on your PC to do it.
There are many reasons to root. One being you can delete all the bloatware the carrier puts on it. There are some apps that require root ...like Adfree that takes off all the ads on Apps that run them ...like free Apps have some ads.
Yes you can run different ROM's but you can also install different modems that work better in your area to make your battery better. If you root your phone and just put on some Apps that require root and dont change the OS...the if you unroot, there is nothing to set up again.
I know that, I meant when you gotta set up ROMs when you download them and wipe data and all that stuff.
Having owned all 3 iPads, I knew what to expect with iOS so it wasn't a big change really. To be honest, I wish the screen were a bit bigger, adding a custom ringtone was easier and I could swap in a new keyboard and dialer but I can live with it. I will gladly exchange these things for an OS that is far more stable, apps that actually work right, an OS I don't have to baby and make sure I close out of an app that will drain my battery, a phone that doesn't force close and crash and a phone where I know I will get the new OS update the very day its released. I won't have to sit around for 6 months wondering if my phone will ever get it or if I have to buy a new phone at retail price just to get the new OS. Done with that BS and loving the iPhone
Updates are too overrated. The new functions are so small and exclusive , it won't even affect you most of the time.
I used to be on 4.3.5 upgraded to 5.0 for tethered jailbreak, no reason to have a tethered jailbreak on iOS 4.
I would be on 5.0 right now but an untethered jailbreak came out for 5.0.1 so i upgraded to that just to jailbreak.
5.1 adds japanese, doesn't affect me, still on 5.0.1 because added functions are pointless and I'm preserving jailbreak.
If I had no interest in jailbreaking, I would still be on 4.3.5..and I know many people who are on 4.2.1 or 4.3.3. Incremental updates by Apple barely affect anyone, People upgrade for the heck of it. Sometimes its even bad, 5.0.1 claimed to fix battery issue in 5.0, it didn't. 5.1 claimed to fix battery issue on 5.0.1, no thanks I'm not going to risk my jailbreak for a possible battery fix.
Plus if iOS6 remains the same, I would most likely stay at 5.0.1 for who knows how long.....
The point is, you CAN update to the newest OS from day one, anytime you want without a jailbreak. You dint get that choice with Android. Unless you have a GSM Nexus phone, you are waiting 6 months and hoping your phone is even on the update list. It's a joke.
They are lying. AOSP ICS runs fine on the Nexus S, which is a Galaxy S1 device. The reason it won't run on the Captivate is because TW is so bloated, it bloats it past the limit. AOSP ICS runs fine, there are at least two ROMs out there that prove it. Of course, the argument is that the Captivate is a phone for hackers, so it doesn't matter anyways.
Rooting gets you a lot of access. Not only can you do a third-party ROM that works so much better, but you can use features like mobile hotspot, which is normally locked out by the carrier.
True, but millions of people that jailbreak can't update on day one without loosing their jb. They are in the same shoes of many Android users. Waiting months before they can upgrade. Hell, some people are still on 4.3+ because they don't want to risk losing what they have.
However, here is a more valid point. I can do nearly everything on my stock Android phone that takes a jailbreak to do on my iphone4. The stock Android OS gives me what Apple's stock OS can't. Doesn't matter if I can get an update or several updates from Apple. It is still lacking. I'm not hating here, I still love the OS and Apple and still have all my Apple products. I just like to use every OS out there and can compare and contrast with a level head.
Have you been paying attention to how long jailbreaks have taken to launch recently?
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Never said the Nexus S couldn't run ICS...it is running it right now, actually.
Have you been paying attention to how long jailbreaks have taken to launch recently?
It is going downhill. But it's not at the level of Android upgrades.