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Dear Apple: Get notifications right!
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You are being deliberately obtuse or know very little about phones and/or smartphones.
LEDs were standard on cell phones, including smartphones, before the iPhone was ever released. It was the iPhone that didn't have it--to its detriment in my opinion.
I put up with the lack of LED notification because the iPhone was the best experience for me in a smartphone back then.
Now times have changed and there are other phones that are even better for me than the iPhone AND they have even more advanced notification LEDs than the phones I had prior to the iPhone. Win-win.
But for the love of God stop trying to turn a negative--the iPhone's lack of a notification LED--into a positive. It isn't working and I doubt anyone is buying it. In other words: pull up your pants, it's too late to save your shoes.
Michael
You're defending a feature no one cares about. Even tech articles don't discuss LED notification lights when reviewing a phone. Why are we still arguing over this?
I think it's been pretty much settled a number of posts ago already--it is a useful and fairly straightforward feature to have (which many smartphones already have), ands it's definitely something a fair number of users do care about or certainly would care about of it became available on the iPhone. If and/or when that might happen is pretty much up to Apple though. That's more or less all there's to it.
And not taking into account that it is false that articles don't talk about LED notification lights
Bro you lost the argument like 3 days ago. Just do everyone and yourself a favor and leave the thread or talk about something new.
Ok I lost the argument. Now let's wait 3-4 years and see how Apple still doesn't add a LED notification light to the iPhone because no one cares enough about it.
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The difference is you're waking up the phone KNOWING you had a missed call/message .
With the iPhone, you're randomly picking up the phone checking every 10 - 15 minutes to see if you even had a missed call/message to begin with. You might enjoy doing that, I don't.
There's even an option on certain android phones where incoming calls and messages will be read out loud so you know who/what it is. Since that's really important to you.
If you are so intently waiting on a call that you feel like you need to check every 10 minutes, why don't you have the phone on you, or a vibrate function set up so you can hear/feel it?
These complaints seem pretty far out and stupid IMO. I like the banner notifications on Android a lot better but Apple isn't doing anything wrong from the lock screen as far as I am concerned.
Yup took them 3 years to add cut, copy, and paste, 4 for wallpapers and multi-tasking, 5 for a notification center, 7 for quick toggles, they still haven't added quick reply, default apps, file management, but I guess no one cared enough about them. Face it, Apple is notoriously slow to add certain very basic, useful features, and all the fan boys tout that it's cuz no one needs them, and then when they finally do get them they act like it's the greatest thing ever. And then we all wonder why android fans are all up in everyone's faces about it. An LED light is useful to have, easy to implement, and easy to turn off and ignore as well. Just cuz it doesn't have it doesn't mean we have to justify as to why the phone needs it.
As demonstrated by this thread and other smartphones in general; people do care about them. To argue otherwise is folly.
Apple may or may not add them but Apple often takes a long time to add features, waiting until they figure out a better or unique spin on it.
Sometimes they are just dragging their feet though. I remember when the Palm Pre was released in 2009 with the cards style interface for multitasking and here it is 4 years later and Apple finally adds it - wholesale.
Apple will add features to the iPhone when there is enough demand for it and when they do they implement it better than others.
Copy/Paste in iOS: Remember this? So many jokes revolved around this that Apple finally added it in iOS 3
LTE connectivity: Same scenario
Screen size: Android users are still laughing about the screen size of the iPhone. The best Apple was able to do was to increase it to 4".
LED Notification light? *crickets* who even talks about this? Why would Apple even add this if no one is requesting it?
That's not always the case... The card style multi-tasking I just mentioned is not "Better" than Palm's... in fact, it's deficient in some ways. There's not even anything new about it - it's a straight lift.
Ironically, I doubt this was anything there was a great demand for from the average consumer. Most people don't even know how to access the recent apps list.
However, I see old Android and Palm users who have moved to iPhone wondering about a notification LED semi-regularly.
If I do a google search for "notification light iphone" it comes back with over 5 million hits and the very first one is to a question about the iPhone 5 having this feature right on Apple's OWN STORE.
A good portion of these hits are the previously mentioned tip on how to use your camera flash as an notification light as well.
I think you lost this debate, as well.
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I have a sound for Notifications of FB messages, if that's what you mean. Not when I'm in the app but when a notification is received in NC.
This sums up the thread, a nicely worded, succinct recap of where people stand.
However, because we are on the Internet, there will probably be many more posts saying why LEDs are either
1) completely detrimental to life on earth as we know it, or
2) the greatest thing since the invention of electricity.
What does that prove exactly? If you google "large iphone screen" it comes back with 100 million hits. Kind of puts things into perspective as to what is being discussed more.
Actually, no it doesn't. Apple has already released a larger screen iPhone and this fuels those search results. If Apple added a notification LED then it's search results would similarly explode.
However, no one was arguing against a large screen or which feature users wanted more. You are just scrambling.
You said, and I will quote:
As I pointed out, a huge number of people are talking about it, even on the Apple Store, and resorting to work arounds to attempt this functionality.
Actually, no it doesn't. Apple has already released a larger screen iPhone and this fuels those search results. If Apple added a notification LED then it's search results would similarly explode.
However, no one was arguing against a large screen or which feature users wanted more. You are just scrambling.
You said, and I will quote:
As I pointed out, a huge number of people are talking about it, even on the Apple Store, and resorting to work arounds to attempt this functionality.
I'm done defending my view on this. I still think Apple will never add a LED notification light to the iPhone. Let's just wait and see what happens. I may be wrong in the end.
Let's hope that you are wrong.I'm done defending my view on this. I still think Apple will never add a LED notification light to the iPhone. Let's just wait and see what happens. I may be wrong in the end.
What's funny is that some people on here want apple to copy android with LEDs, are also people that complain apple just copy android. Contradicting much?
There's obviously not a huge demand for it, or apple would have caved to pressure buy now to all those people leaving iPhone for blackberry/android....
Even if 50 to 100 peeps on here want and LED, they are part of a small niche, as this forum wouldn't make up 10% of iOS users.
There's obviously not a huge demand for it, or apple would have caved to pressure buy now to all those people leaving iPhone for blackberry/android....
Even if 50 to 100 peeps on here want and LED, they are part of a small niche, as this forum wouldn't make up 10% of iOS users.
I'm gonna have to agree, to an extent.
Unfortunately, I think that the current system is a messy patch overtop the original system, which simply displayed modal alert boxes that took up the entire screen, sounds, and a cute little badge for the icons. It was a more dumb-phone-like approach to things, because the original iPhone OS didn't have all that much to notify you of at the time.
The current system, introduced in iOS 5, adds notification center and less-annoying popups, but, like I said, it feels very much like a patch over something that worked.
For example, when you clear notifications in the notification center, the app badge notification is still there. This is really strange. I wish they'd fix this.
WebOS really got so many things right.
Unfortunately, I think that the current system is a messy patch overtop the original system, which simply displayed modal alert boxes that took up the entire screen, sounds, and a cute little badge for the icons. It was a more dumb-phone-like approach to things, because the original iPhone OS didn't have all that much to notify you of at the time.
The current system, introduced in iOS 5, adds notification center and less-annoying popups, but, like I said, it feels very much like a patch over something that worked.
For example, when you clear notifications in the notification center, the app badge notification is still there. This is really strange. I wish they'd fix this.
WebOS really got so many things right.
Well considering in the middle of 2012 there were 400 million iOS devices activated, there are only 800,000 macrumors forum members, of which, not all would be iOS users. It's fairly logical to say that this forum is a niche in relation to all users......me saying 10% was generous.