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kenb31

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Apr 13, 2022
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I got an A01 February 22 again. The replacement has zero backlight bleed in a completely dark room. I was pretty surprised.

I don´t know if I got a refurbished model. The monitor itself seems completely new, but the usb-c cable looks pretty worn.
Also the ips glow is not as present as before which is odd.
 

sylwiusz

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Nov 8, 2012
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I considered 27UP850 as well but went with U2723QE. My thought process:

Why U2723QE is better?
- IPS Black panel with doubled contrast ratio.
- More and superior ports as USB hub. (I think 27UP850 only supports 4K60Hz with USB 2.0 speed?)
- Built-in power supply.
- Slightly more DCI-P3 coverage (98% vs 95% of LG)
- Better design (to my eyes - not a fan of LG's curved base).
- Displayport chaining and KVM (in case I need to use it with PC)

Why 27UP850 is better? (and why they don't matter as much to me)
- 96w power delivery over USB C (compared to 90w of Dell) - the difference is really small.
- AMD Free Sync - I don't game.
- Built in speaker - I heard quality is mediocre.
- Lower listed price ($550 vs $780) - U2723QE is now on sale for $625, and Amex is offering $120 credit (valid before Apr 2), I actually got U2723QE at around $500.
I'd add for 27UP850 "better list" one more thing - hardware calibration. It is much more effective than software one and almost mandatory for serious photo/video editing. Here more on that topic:
 

sylwiusz

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Nov 8, 2012
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Yeah I was aware of that but after seeing the video below it now appears that there’s a performance hit when using resolutions that aren’t 110 or 220ppi. I won’t be doing anything that taxes the GPU so it should be okay.

I don't know this guy's problem, maybe Blender was not M1 optimised at that time, but in recent serious tests M1 Macs cope very well even with a bunch of 4K screens attached and all working at scaled resolutions. Intel GPUs were just much worse in this regards and according to author of below test even AMD Vega from Mac Pro 2013 is worse in this matter.
 

tmoney468

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Mar 13, 2007
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I wonder if the 27" will be cheaper closer to Memorial Day?

FWIW, If anyone has a Chase card, I had a 5% instant rebate offer from Chase for Dell on my Amazon Visa Card.
 

torontotim

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Jul 29, 2019
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I’m in the UK and my U3223QE had an estimated delivery date of 25 July but it was shipped out yesterday.

Kinda nervous about this scaling stuff in macOS though.
I've been using a 28" ASUS 4K display with a couple of MacBooks over the years (14" currently) and always thought it looked fine when scaled to the '1440p' equivalent. I'm using it at 1 arm's length - outstretched my fingertip just touches the screen.

I've ordered my Dell 27" and am expecting it to be a step up in terms of image quality. Has anyone with wired gigabit ethernet confirmed full speed is available via the USB C connection to the display?

I'll be replacing my Thunderbolt 3 dock with the dock built into the display if all goes to plan, although it will be a bit of a cable management issue with all the cables going up the arm to the display vs. the single DisplayPort cable running to my ASUS now.
 

zoga

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Apr 11, 2022
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Has anyone tried DELL P2723QE? I'm deciding between this one and the S2722QC. The latter recieved many good reviews (rtings included) and should work flawlessly with m1 mac mini. On the other hand it looks like P2723QE is a newer model but it has recieved a lot less reviews to this date. Any ideas which one to pick?
 

torontotim

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Jul 29, 2019
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Not sure if this was already posted but it's a nice comparison of the panel.


Ordered mine in Canada on the 11th and the shipping label was created on the 12th so I'm hopeful. Shipping from just outside Toronto so it should be quick once it starts moving.
 

StephC

macrumors newbie
Oct 31, 2009
9
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I have been using the U2723QE for about 2 weeks now, and while it's a great monitor, I ended up returning it in favor of the Apple Studio Display. The one huge advantage the Apple Studio Display has over the Dell is the glossy finish, compared to the matte display on the Dell. Images on the Studio Display are SO much more vibrant than on the Dell display. It simply pops, and the Dell display looks dull in comparison.
Did the monitor wobble when using it and typing? I had the S2722QC that I returned because of the wobble, it was almost usable when using my standing desk.
 

StephC

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Oct 31, 2009
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Not sure if this was already posted but it's a nice comparison of the panel.


Ordered mine in Canada on the 11th and the shipping label was created on the 12th so I'm hopeful. Shipping from just outside Toronto so it should be quick once it starts moving.
It shipped the next day you ordered it? Had mine ordered for more than a week few days ago and it never shipped. Also in Canada.
 

Spacegray

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Apr 10, 2016
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Has anyone tried DELL P2723QE? I'm deciding between this one and the S2722QC. The latter recieved many good reviews (rtings included) and should work flawlessly with m1 mac mini. On the other hand it looks like P2723QE is a newer model but it has recieved a lot less reviews to this date. Any ideas which one to pick?
I went through two P2723QE (ended up with one from my employer) and one U2723QE.
"23" is related (not exact) to the year of introduction. So the P2723QE should be the newer one.
The P2723QE has a good amount of interfaces and works fine for home office use. I use the monitor with my Dell XPS15 and my MBA M1 and the hub works flawless in both cases.
The ethernet port provides ca. 940 Mbit/s over USB-C - that's fine!
The panel of the U2723QE seems to be better in some points (contrast, color gamut, illumination) but also worse in some points (IPS glow, backlight bleeding) than the one of the P2723QE. Also it is some nits brighter.
The U2723QE, I had, was revision A00. I returned it because of the terrible backlight bleeding on the lower left edge.
My actual P2723QE shows no signs of backlight bleeding at all.
I do not know, whether the P2723QE and the S2722QC share the same panel, but I would prefer the P2723QE for the ethernet port. That's an individual decision of course.
Hope this helps...
 

dafi

macrumors member
Nov 7, 2021
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I went through two P2723QE (ended up with one from my employer) and one U2723QE.
"23" is related (not exact) to the year of introduction. So the P2723QE should be the newer one.
The P2723QE has a good amount of interfaces and works fine for home office use. I use the monitor with my Dell XPS15 and my MBA M1 and the hub works flawless in both cases.
The ethernet port provides ca. 940 Mbit/s over USB-C - that's fine!
The panel of the U2723QE seems to be better in some points (contrast, color gamut, illumination) but also worse in some points (IPS glow, backlight bleeding) than the one of the P2723QE. Also it is some nits brighter.
The U2723QE, I had, was revision A00. I returned it because of the terrible backlight bleeding on the lower left edge.
My actual P2723QE shows no signs of backlight bleeding at all.
I do not know, whether the P2723QE and the S2722QC share the same panel, but I would prefer the P2723QE for the ethernet port. That's an individual decision of course.
Hope this helps...
When you switch computer, does the ethernet port switch, too?
As mentioned in other posts this would make the ethernet useless
 

Spacegray

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Apr 10, 2016
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When you switch computer, does the ethernet port switch, too?
As mentioned in other posts this would make the ethernet useless
I usually switch the USB-cable between the two devices as I only have one of them on my desktop at a time.
After that the ethernet port indeed is not found.
I have to switch off / on the display and the ethernet port works immediately.
This seems to be a firmware problem.
As the monitor is quite new, I hope this will be solved by an update.
 
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dafi

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Nov 7, 2021
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I usually switch the USB-cable between the two devices as I only have one of them on my desktop at a time.
After that the ethernet port indeed is not found.
I have to switch off / on the display and the ethernet port works immediately.
This seems to be a firmware problem.
As the monitor is quite new, I hope this will be solved by an update.
Thanks for reply, Dell is not really fast to publish fixes for its product but who knows...
 

zoga

macrumors member
Apr 11, 2022
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I went through two P2723QE (ended up with one from my employer) and one U2723QE.
"23" is related (not exact) to the year of introduction. So the P2723QE should be the newer one.
The P2723QE has a good amount of interfaces and works fine for home office use. I use the monitor with my Dell XPS15 and my MBA M1 and the hub works flawless in both cases.
The ethernet port provides ca. 940 Mbit/s over USB-C - that's fine!
The panel of the U2723QE seems to be better in some points (contrast, color gamut, illumination) but also worse in some points (IPS glow, backlight bleeding) than the one of the P2723QE. Also it is some nits brighter.
The U2723QE, I had, was revision A00. I returned it because of the terrible backlight bleeding on the lower left edge.
My actual P2723QE shows no signs of backlight bleeding at all.
I do not know, whether the P2723QE and the S2722QC share the same panel, but I would prefer the P2723QE for the ethernet port. That's an individual decision of course.
Hope this helps...
It helps a lot! Many thanks. The thing I'm worried about is whether I would get RGB color profile, no flickering and no issues waking from sleep experience out of the box with this monitor. I would be pairing it with a mac mini m1.

In addition, does the monitor wobble and how is reflection handling?
 
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Spacegray

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Apr 10, 2016
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I can only tell you about my experience with a MBA M1 as I do not own a mac mini.
Whe I set the MBA to sleep mode, the monitor goes to stand by mode a view seconds later.
When I wake up the MBA with my MX keys, the monitor also wakes up.
The bottom plate doesn't wobble on the desktop but the monitor itself may wobble a bit due to the tolerances in the height adjustment-, swivel- and tilt-mechanism. For me that's ok.
Regarding the quality of the panel and the reflection handling, I think you have to check out by yourself if this is ok for you.

btw. Dell Display Manager does not (yet?) work with my P2723QE though DDC is activated
 

lecureuil

macrumors newbie
Jan 18, 2022
17
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just ordered the U2723QE on dell.com with company discount

2 weeks to wait before plugging in to my M1 Mac Mini
 

torontotim

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Jul 29, 2019
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I went through two P2723QE (ended up with one from my employer) and one U2723QE.
"23" is related (not exact) to the year of introduction. So the P2723QE should be the newer one.
The P2723QE has a good amount of interfaces and works fine for home office use. I use the monitor with my Dell XPS15 and my MBA M1 and the hub works flawless in both cases.
The ethernet port provides ca. 940 Mbit/s over USB-C - that's fine!
The panel of the U2723QE seems to be better in some points (contrast, color gamut, illumination) but also worse in some points (IPS glow, backlight bleeding) than the one of the P2723QE. Also it is some nits brighter.
The U2723QE, I had, was revision A00. I returned it because of the terrible backlight bleeding on the lower left edge.
My actual P2723QE shows no signs of backlight bleeding at all.
I do not know, whether the P2723QE and the S2722QC share the same panel, but I would prefer the P2723QE for the ethernet port. That's an individual decision of course.
Hope this helps...

They both have '23' in the model name so I'm not sure why you think the P is newer than the U based on your belief that 23 correlates somehow to the year of introduction.

And they both have ethernet, so I'm not sure why that makes you prefer the P model.

I have the U on order, but might consider the P based on the similarities and $90 price difference (Canada).
 

Spacegray

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Apr 10, 2016
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They both have '23' in the model name so I'm not sure why you think the P is newer than the U based on your belief that 23 correlates somehow to the year of introduction.

And they both have ethernet, so I'm not sure why that makes you prefer the P model.

I have the U on order, but might consider the P based on the similarities and $90 price difference (Canada).
We were talking about the difference between the P2723QE and the S2722QC.
 

VanVanWang

macrumors member
Apr 30, 2022
30
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Just got my U3223QE after 2 months waiting...
The new black-IPS lcd panel is quite good for a obvious deep black color. The text is Cristal and Clear.
The only small problem is the 400nit brightness and a slight pink color temperature when compare with the bulid-in MBP16's lcd.

If you do most text/code works than graphics or videos, the U3223QE is a very good choice for the build-in KVM, 2nd display chain, RJ45 plug, 5 usb-a port, 2 usb-c port.

The attached clip is a infuse-pro screen when playing a DV.MKV movie dragging from the U3223QE(Display HDR400 on) to MBP16's LCD.

 

Donsell

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Feb 19, 2021
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If you do most text/code works than graphics or videos, the U3223QE is a very good choice for the build-in KVM, 2nd display chain, RJ45 plug, 5 usb-a port, 2 usb-c port.
Does the 2nd display chain work? I thought that worked only on Thunderbolt monitors.
 
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VanVanWang

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VanVanWang

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Apr 30, 2022
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macOS doesn't support MST for multiple displays. You can use MST for multiple displays on an Intel Mac if you boot Windows or Linux.

I just found this page:

The Mac supports Multi-Stream Transport (MST, multiple displays on one cable) with a maximum of TWO modest-sized displays ONLY on Genuine ThunderBolt Cables connecting to a Genuine ThunderBolt device [dock or display] as the first device.

So, not support the Dell U3223QE with macOS.
 
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