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Dell released their newest Ultrasharp model ,U2723QE, U3223QE Ultrasharp monitor
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He specifically asked about DP daisy chaining. This needs Displayport MST which Apple kind of refuses to implement, but the feature is on the Dell display he has. Even adding a Thunderbolt dock into the mix, those two displays will need to have 2 separate cables going to the TB dock, but yes the dock only needs one cable to the Mac though.
Thank you both. This was my understanding as well, that DisplayPort MST is required and Apple doesn't (refuses) то support it. I have a Dell TB dock, but not sure it's worth putting into the mix for the fairly minor convenience of eliminating one cable which I only plug/unplug a few times a week.
Follow up question, how, i.e. what's the protocol that allows this all to work with TB dock and just one wire?
Further, Thunderbolt 4 specification mandates the "one cable two display streams" requirement. It is for this reason that all the Apple Silicon Macs that cannot do two external display (with or without lid close), they do not qualify to be called TB4. Thus Apple had to call those ports "TB3/ USB4".
I think every Intel Mac can do two displays from Thunderbolt 3 or one dual tile display.
All Apple Silicon Macs can do dual tile displays from Thunderbolt 3 (one DisplayPort SST signal per half of the display) so they can connect 5K dual tile displays like the Dell UP2715K or LG UltraFine 5K.
MST does work for old 4K displays that were dual tile displays that used one MST stream for each side. I don't know if Apple still supports that with Apple Silicon Macs.
All Apple Silicon Macs can do dual tile displays from Thunderbolt 3 (one DisplayPort SST signal per half of the display) so they can connect 5K dual tile displays like the Dell UP2715K or LG UltraFine 5K.
MST does work for old 4K displays that were dual tile displays that used one MST stream for each side. I don't know if Apple still supports that with Apple Silicon Macs.
Yes, the early 4K displays were dual tile and used two 1920x2160 60Hz MST streams because there were no controllers that supported 3840x2160 60Hz SST.
You mean the Dell 5K UP2715K. The U2715H is a 1440p display.
The LG UltraFine 5K is the same as the Dell 5K UP2715K except the LG gets both DisplayPort SST 2560x2880 60Hz signals from Thunderbolt 3.
I see, I was skeptical going into 4k early so I missed this early batch. In fact I might have avoided using them specifically because MST was involved.
Oh yeah totally mixed up the models; yes *that* one 5k display. The LG was released slightly later, probably to wait for TB3 being available on Macs. Also If I recall, Apple or LG did some trickery as well that was outside of the TB / DP specs requirement to have single cable work. Something to do with timing controller.
Regardless, Apple has never supported MST in the most common way, that is to daisy chain.
The U2713H is 2560x1440. Why wouldn't it be supported? Any Mac, past or future should support it. It has DisplayPort, HDMI, and DVI-D Dual Link inputs. DisplayPort and HDMI should be easy. DVI-D Dual Link will require a DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI-D Adapter to achieve full 2560x1440 resolution.
I ask because I own one. Bought a new Mac mini which I haven’t connected yet but I recall that when I bought my previous Mac mini I had to run some scripts posted on the internet.
I’m interested in the Dell UltraSharp U2723QE and would like to know what improvements have been made in the latest revisions.
Is Rev A03 currently the latest for the U2723QE, or has Rev A04 (or a newer version) been released?
I place a high value on first-class picture quality.
As I do image and video editing, excellent color reproduction and top-notch image quality are essential for my work.
Is Rev A03 currently the latest for the U2723QE, or has Rev A04 (or a newer version) been released?
I place a high value on first-class picture quality.
- Exceptional color accuracy
- Outstanding sharpness
As I do image and video editing, excellent color reproduction and top-notch image quality are essential for my work.
I moved from a Viewsonic 27" 1080p display (which really wasn't bad at all) to the U2723Q, and it proved to be a "nice jump upwards", particularly in clarity.
I still notice a little "backlight bleed-through" when watching videos, however. Not intolerable, but it's still there. So the improved "black tech" of the Ultrasharp helps only so much, in my opinion.
What I'm waiting for now is a 27" 4k OLED display. Very few of these out there yet, and I've read that (for some reason I don't get), the pixel shape or arrangement on current OLED displays isn't best for text (have yet to see a real explanation on that). So I'll keep holding out a little longer.
But til then, the Dell Ultrasharp is indeed very nice.
I still notice a little "backlight bleed-through" when watching videos, however. Not intolerable, but it's still there. So the improved "black tech" of the Ultrasharp helps only so much, in my opinion.
What I'm waiting for now is a 27" 4k OLED display. Very few of these out there yet, and I've read that (for some reason I don't get), the pixel shape or arrangement on current OLED displays isn't best for text (have yet to see a real explanation on that). So I'll keep holding out a little longer.
But til then, the Dell Ultrasharp is indeed very nice.
Yeah those OLED 27 1440PP won't be great for some years to come for office work, I am using the Asus P27AQDM purely for gaming next to my Dell 32. Those OLED icm with 1440P and text clarity is not great, need to be 4K and RGB in this case for WOLED.
Even with 32” 4k OLED monitors there is the debate with QD-OLED vs WOLED I think. I wonder if Apple has an answer to this yet, since they are aiming to replace the 14” and 16” with OLEDs where it seems on the iPad Pro it is already kind of fine (except the grey background grain issue).
I have an A02 that I’m quite happy with. Having said that, it’s nothing compared to an Apple XDR or a high-end Eizo. Bottom line is you get what you pay for. You could get two or three (or five or thirty!) of these for the cost of a true reference monitor. The real question here is what is your budget? There will be drawbacks to anything on the lower price end.
I'm interested in the U2723QE to change my old LG 24UD58 (also 4K) that as a passable picture quality, even more when my MBA M2 is open alongside.
The review on rtings is quite good so I think I give it a try, and it's on sale on Dell website for 440€ with taxs.
The review on rtings is quite good so I think I give it a try, and it's on sale on Dell website for 440€ with taxs.
Is the Dell U2723QE good for gaming? My current 24 inch dell is about 8 years old and has my M1 mini and 2 pc’s, one of the pc’s is my gaming rig. Would like to move up to a 27 inch. But if the Dell sucks on gaming, I play WoT’s, then I have to look elsewhere.
Those who run the Dell U2723QE on your macs, do you also install the dell DDPM software or is that not needed?
As far as base resolution, what are people running? 2560x1440 60hz HiDPI?
As far as base resolution, what are people running? 2560x1440 60hz HiDPI?
I installed the DDPM app, but don't really use it.
Actually, it won't even run on my "Main OS" (2018 Mini using Mojave).
When I use it on my "experimental copy" of Sequoia, its functions seem limited.
I found that "BetterDisplay" is much better, so I use that instead.
Even the free (unregistered) version is better.
Actually, it won't even run on my "Main OS" (2018 Mini using Mojave).
When I use it on my "experimental copy" of Sequoia, its functions seem limited.
I found that "BetterDisplay" is much better, so I use that instead.
Even the free (unregistered) version is better.
I do. I like the option to pull it up and change brightness without messing with buttons, etc...
My screen looks fine now at what it seems to've defaulted to - 1920x1080 60Hz HiDPI. I recently started using mine.
I still say the icon for Dell Display Manager is sometimes missing from the top right menu bar listing on screen, so remembering DDPM to put in SpotLight search and pull it up for easy access is handy.