Are you trolling us? Everything’s so different, it feels stagnant. Nobody goes to the Apple Store anymore, it’s too crowded.
If no one goes in how can it be crowded?
Are you trolling us? Everything’s so different, it feels stagnant. Nobody goes to the Apple Store anymore, it’s too crowded.
Analysts. The do that for every company/product. It’s literally their job. This is the first year Apple failed short.The question is who’s expectations are we talking about here?
i dont think they are killing the golden goose.
1) while the XS starts from 999, the XR is 750, which is rather competitively priced. if you look past the LCD screen, which still looks good, it's cheaper than pixel 3 and you get the iOS "benefits"
2) doesnt matter if the sales are stagnating or what, what apple is doing is price discrimination which maximises profit, and companies do this all the time
3) any company can justify price differences by making a superior product or product differentiate. quality, iOS, their ecosystem, integration across platforms and devices. how much is the question.
i dont think prices are the main problem for apple. They have always charged a premium, but i feel that the case for the premium has weakened over the years.
a) they are increasingly making profits from their services rather than hardware sales, so if their entry level devices are priced too high, then it will be tough to attract new users. maybe it isnt their intention to do so, but i wonder where will the growth be from then
b) apple is no longer that different from or superior to other manufacturers and OS developers. i feel windows and android have improved a lot, and some of apple's strengths, e.g. product quality, have also become suspects. look at their recent problems like their butterfly keyboard and XS' reception issue. i personally also take issue with their attention to detail on their hardware. The need for so many dongles is also hugely frustrating.
i) for earphones, why do I have 3.5mm on my mac laptops, lightning for my iphones, and usb c for ipad pro?
ii) for charging, why is my iphone still using lightning but my ipad pro and mac laptop using usb c?
iii) why do i have a usb b charging cable but my mac laptop only has usb c ports?
Apple now segregates it’s consumers to “rich” and “poor”.
Same here. I've bought iPhones in 2011, 2014 and 2017. And for 2017 I barely even looked at the X; I saw the price and bought an 8.
More like "rich" and "richer"
Analysts. The do that for every company/product. It’s literally their job. This is the first year Apple failed short.
Apple now segregates it’s consumers to “rich” and “poor”.
People don't need a new phone every year. People can't afford a $1200 phone every year.
If no one goes in how can it be crowded?
Apple is offering $525 on my X. Makes even Max "just" $700.Well, that's totally true, but inaccurate. I sold my X ($999) from last year for about $700. So, not considering sales tax, it's more like $200-$300.
Now if I had sprung for last year's X (256gb) at $1200, probably would have only received about $100 more, making the upgrade cost around $300-$400.
The only way it's going to cost $1200 every year is if you throw you old phone off a boat or lose it.
I'm guessing these resale price above are only value cost to the preorder date.
The figures came out and they missed the expectations. Seen AAPL lately?Unless the figures come out and show it had great sales like they do every year?
They sold what 46 million units last quarter? Hardly screwing up. People are still buying these devices at high volume.The figures came out and they missed the expectations. Seem AAPL lately?
In fact they know they screw up so bad that they decided to stop reporting iPhone unit numbers sold in the future.
This is the first year ever that iPhones haven't gone out stock within hours after the pre-orders started. But maybe it wasn’t that iPhones didn’t sell well, maybe it was that Apple was not selling iPhones anymore.
The new models may share the same name, and OS, but are in so many ways different. Different displays, different focus(maybe the first time phones are not thinner and lighter), different authentication l(FaceID vs TouchID), different UX(swipe up vs button), stagnant design, no longer selling last uear’s model, different marketing(for the first time we have excsessive high-end and low-end), different release dates, and most of all different price points.
In many ways 8+ was the last of the iPhones.
Apple seems to be in confusion, making consumers confused and sales numbers show that. They are still doing well in profit, but stock market noticed that something is not going well with the Goose.
People don't need a new phone every year. People can't afford a $1200 phone every year.
The figures came out and they missed the expectations. Seen AAPL lately?
In fact they know they screw up so bad that they decided to stop reporting iPhone unit numbers sold in the future.
Could not agree more. I used to be a serial upgrade years ago. The costs are so out of control I’ll be using my 8 until it is unrepairable. Then I’ll try and find another 8 on the used market. I’ll put my money into my Macs.![]()
It’s an old Yogi Berra quote. He was an American baseball player, manager, and character.
The figures came out and they missed the expectations. Seen AAPL lately?
Same here. I've bought iPhones in 2011, 2014 and 2017. And for 2017 I barely even looked at the X; I saw the price and bought an 8.
Better look again. They lowered it to $500.Apple is offering $525 on my X. Makes even Max "just" $700.
Lol, I don’t remember what place Yogi was talking about, but yeah ‘Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded’.
People don't need a new phone every year. People can't afford a $1200 phone every year.