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Michael Goff

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Day two:
Disabled a lot of things, like Facebook
Don't see the point of the Boost+ app
The BT connection is great
Haven't had a single bit of lag
 
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Michael Goff

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How's the camera so far coming off an iPhone?

I feel the camera is better on the 10.

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Also, I wonder what I was just able to do with the selfie cam. I think it was some sort of beautify mode.
 
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MRU

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Day two:
Disabled a lot of things, like Facebook
Don't see the point of the Boost+ app
The BT connection is great
Haven't had a single bit of lag

I left Boost + as it actually is handy for clearing 'caches' such as youtube, newsstand etc.. At the end of the week I get around 1gb of cache space back and its simple to use. I use Facebook and installed the extra blink feed plugin - tbh I used to disable Facebook and use Tinfoil or Metal, but found little difference to battery life so just stuck with FB. :)
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I wonder what I was just able to do with the selfie cam. I think it was some sort of beautify mode.

It seems to have turned you into a ***** cat :p
 

Michael Goff

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I left Boost + as it actually is handy for clearing 'caches' such as youtube, newsstand etc.. At the end of the week I get around 1gb of cache space back and its simple to use. I use Facebook and installed the extra blink feed plugin - tbh I used to disable Facebook and use Tinfoil or Metal, but found little difference to battery life so just stuck with FB. :)
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It seems to have turned you into a ***** cat :p

What do you think of the "smart boost"?


Also, I wish it turned me into a cat! :D
 

MRU

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What do you think of the "smart boost"?

I don't mind it - it is inoffensive. It doesn't seem to use up ram or cause wake locks, so as something just to clear my cache's once a week or fortnight it's handier than doing that manually or using a third party software tool.
 

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Day two:
Disabled a lot of things, like Facebook
Don't see the point of the Boost+ app
The BT connection is great
Haven't had a single bit of lag
I'm really enjoying this thread as I'm looking to get an Android later this year. Please keep updating! :D
 
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Michael Goff

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Screen turned itself on, and the flashlight, in my pocket. Or I did it somehow. Need to figure out how to take that out of the quick toggles
Pocket casts is failing me. It will randomly put a podcast I'm listening to at the very start of the episode. Need to find another podcast app. Wanted to try Play Music for that, but it didn't have a lot of my podcasts.
Apple Music isn't great on Android either. Seems incapable of dealing with multi disc albums
Keyboard lags a little when it has to come up for me to decrypt on reboot
Battery life seems to be settling in to "alright". Not great, merely alright.

Inbox is actually a pretty good idea. If I didn't have "done", I'd be trashing email like I did on iCloud. That's less email for Google to scan through.
 
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MRU

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Check motion launch gestures in settings. That's what likely turned on those things in your pocket.

Are you using Google Keyboard (newest version) as I have no lag on mine.

Don't use Apple Music even on iOS I pretty much am tied down to play music at this stage.
 

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Screen turned itself on, and the flashlight, in my pocket. Or I did it somehow. Need to figure out how to take that out of the quick toggles
Pocket casts is failing me. It will randomly put a podcast I'm listening to at the very start of the episode. Need to find another podcast app. Wanted to try Play Music for that, but it didn't have a lot of my podcasts.
Apple Music isn't great on Android either. Seems incapable of dealing with multi disc albums
Keyboard lags a little when it has to come up for me to decrypt on reboot
Battery life seems to be settling in to "alright". Not great, merely alright.

Inbox is actually a pretty good idea. If I didn't have "done", I'd be trashing email like I did on iCloud. That's less email for Google to scan through.
In my back pocket both my Nexus 4 and Nexus 6 does this on occasion although the N6 has a peek-a-boo screen if you move it so that's easily explainable. I had to create a pattern for the lock screen and it hasn't happened since.
 

Michael Goff

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Check motion launch gestures in settings. That's what likely turned on those things in your pocket.

Are you using Google Keyboard (newest version) as I have no lag on mine.

Don't use Apple Music even on iOS I pretty much am tied down to play music at this stage.

For whatever reason, it moves to the default keyboard whenever I'm on that screen. Maybe the Google Keyboard doesn't come up until the phone is completely booted for some security reason.
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In my back pocket both my Nexus 4 and Nexus 6 does this on occasion although the N6 has a peek-a-boo screen if you move it so that's easily explainable. I had to create a pattern for the lock screen and it hasn't happened since.

Unfortunately, you can still pull down the quick toggles and activate them. That's apparently what happened to me.
 

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Double post, but I think this might be the time I move from the iPhone and stay. Unless they do something magical at WWDC, or I start running into major issues, this might just work. Battery life is good enough, BT is good (better than my SE, but Apple has never liked BT anyway), and I like the interface design. The only downside that I can think of is OS updates and how they're "coming soon" as opposed to the "click and update" that I'm used to with iOS.

Also, yes, I'm obviously going to be going at this from the perspective of better or worse than the other experience I can have. And no, I'm not saying that my experiences mean the same for everyone. You do you. Your experiences, your needs, are likely different from mine.

Oh, and ... Apparently I also set off the camera in my pocket last night. So I have a two second recording of inside my pocket.

Edit: There is something is starting to perplex me more and more, though. It feels weird to not wear my Apple Watch and it feels weird to wear it with an Android phone. Any ideas there? Does it become less weird as time goes on?
 
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Double post, but I think this might be the time I move from the iPhone and stay. Unless they do something magical at WWDC, or I start running into major issues, this might just work. Battery life is good enough, BT is good (better than my SE, but Apple has never liked BT anyway), and I like the interface design. The only downside that I can think of is OS updates and how they're "coming soon" as opposed to the "click and update" that I'm used to with iOS.

Also, yes, I'm obviously going to be going at this from the perspective of better or worse than the other experience I can have. And no, I'm not saying that my experiences mean the same for everyone. You do you. Your experiences, your needs, are likely different from mine.

Oh, and ... Apparently I also set off the camera in my pocket last night. So I have a two second recording of inside my pocket.

Edit: There is something is starting to perplex me more and more, though. It feels weird to not wear my Apple Watch and it feels weird to wear it with an Android phone. Any ideas there? Does it become less weird as time goes on?

I'm waiting on WWDC to determine what I'm doing, too. While I've generally been happy with my iPhone, I'm very intrigued by what Android is putting out right now. Granted, I've only been on iOS since December. But I'm starting to feel like Apple is lagging behind in the tech field compared to Google. It just looks like the advancements are all in Google's corner and iOS is basically the same thing it was 4 years ago.
 

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I'm waiting on WWDC to determine what I'm doing, too. While I've generally been happy with my iPhone, I'm very intrigued by what Android is putting out right now. Granted, I've only been on iOS since December. But I'm starting to feel like Apple is lagging behind in the tech field compared to Google. It just looks like the advancements are all in Google's corner and iOS is basically the same thing it was 4 years ago.

Agreed. iOS is not really exciting anymore. That being said, I still think Apple has tablets figured out better.


Also. I tried to pair my Magic Keyboard with the HTC 10 and it didn't see it. Didn't expect to use it, but was just wondering.
 

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Agreed. iOS is not really exciting anymore. That being said, I still think Apple has tablets figured out better.


Also. I tried to pair my Magic Keyboard with the HTC 10 and it didn't see it. Didn't expect to use it, but was just wondering.

Yeah. It works great. Really have no major issue. But it's just kind of stale. And I agree about iPads.

If I see something at WWDC that piques my interest, I'll stick around. But as of right now, there are two things keeping me on iOS - iMessage, and one app called Color Splash.
 

Michael Goff

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Yeah. It works great. Really have no major issue. But it's just kind of stale. And I agree about iPads.

If I see something at WWDC that piques my interest, I'll stick around. But as of right now, there are two things keeping me on iOS - iMessage, and one app called Color Splash.

iMessage is great.

For me, though, the thing that keeps making me think about my phone is actually the watch. I know I said that a couple posts ago, but I have to repeat it. I freaking love this watch, and don't have the money right now to buy a new watch. Looking forward to see what WWDC brings us.
 

Wildo6882

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iMessage is great.

For me, though, the thing that keeps making me think about my phone is actually the watch. I know I said that a couple posts ago, but I have to repeat it. I freaking love this watch, and don't have the money right now to buy a new watch. Looking forward to see what WWDC brings us.

Yeah. The ease of sending pics and videos is great. But my wife uses Android so we pretty much just use Google Photos to share stuff. That works VERY well. So it isn't the end of the world. It's just convincing my parents (who are in their 60s) to try something else.

Haven't gotten into watches yet. And don't think I will until Android or Apple makes one I can charge once a week.
 

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Yeah. The ease of sending pics and videos is great. But my wife uses Android so we pretty much just use Google Photos to share stuff. That works VERY well. So it isn't the end of the world. It's just convincing my parents (who are in their 60s) to try something else.

Haven't gotten into watches yet. And don't think I will until Android or Apple makes one I can charge once a week.

I don't think that's going to happen, the weekly charge. We have one week charges on fitness bands, but only because they generally have a very limited screen and very limited features. Also, most companies seem to be set to have around 1-2 day battery life and more features. It might happen, but I doubt it.
 

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I don't think that's going to happen, the weekly charge. We have one week charges on fitness bands, but only because they generally have a very limited screen and very limited features. Also, most companies seem to be set to have around 1-2 day battery life and more features. It might happen, but I doubt it.

Maybe a week might be tough. But I think we can get to 3-4 days. I just don't want it to die on me overnight. I want that guarantee that I don't have to charge it every night.
 

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iMessage is great.

For me, though, the thing that keeps making me think about my phone is actually the watch. I know I said that a couple posts ago, but I have to repeat it. I freaking love this watch, and don't have the money right now to buy a new watch. Looking forward to see what WWDC brings us.

You're not alone. While there were a few other things that bothered me a bit during my time using the Nexus 6P, the biggest factor that contributed to me returning to my iPhone was the Apple Watch and how much better it works in conjunction with the iPhone vs. the Huawei Watch I used with the Nexus 6P.
 
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You're not alone. While there were a few other things that bothered me a bit during my time using the Nexus 6P, the biggest factor that contributed to me returning to my iPhone was how the Apple Watch and how much better it works in conjunction with the iPhone vs. the Huawei Watch I used my the Nexus 6P.

Wait. Android Wear isn't as good as Apple Watch?
 

tbayrgs

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Wait. Android Wear isn't as good as Apple Watch?

In my opinion no, at least for my use case.

What I liked:

- Huawei Watch hardware is beautiful, certainly much more 'traditional watch' if that's your preference. I like both it and the Apple Watch--two highest build quality smart watches presently.

- Always on watch face is nice though I suspect battery suffers a bit for it. My Huawei always ended the day was less battery than my Apple Watch ever would.

- Many more available watch face choices.

Sadly, those are the only areas where I found Android Wear to surpass the Apple Watch,

What I didn't like so much:

- 'OK Google' between the watch and phone. First, saying 'OK Google' triggers both the watch and phone, unless I turn it off on the phone, eliminating that benefit. Doesn't happen in the Apple Watch/iPhone. I could live with it if all the functionality from 'OK Google' was the same on both devices but it's not. For instance, I add items to lists in Google Keep all the time when I use an Android phone via 'OK Google' yet even though there is a Google Keep watch app, can't be done from the watch, so I have to grab the phone to do it. Conversely, there is no Reminders app on the Apple Watch yet i can add reminders to my synced lists via the watch. Also, in a related note, Reminders on Google is a pain to easily access since there is actually no Reminders app.

- Bluetooth issues...specifically phone can't be connected to both watch and car for phone connectivity. So if I want to leave on the option to take calls on the watch, it overrides the connection to the car, meaning I have to go into settings to disconnect before driving. Also, randomly that option would just disappear from the settings altogether. This micromanaging isn't required with the Apple Watch.

These first two issues were ultimately deal breakers. Other issues:

- charging is much more secure on the Apple Watch and many more 3rd party dock options. The magnet is very strong on the Apple Watch charger while the Huawei version is very susceptible to slipping off.

- haptic feedback is weaker and just doesn't feel as crisp--don't know how else to explain it.

- notification management lacks much granular control. If you get it on your phone, you have to get it on your watch.

- ironically, no 'clear all' option for notifications.

- notifications appear as cards...very nice except that they often keep reappearing even after dismissal. Also, whatever cards you get in Google Now you're going to get on your watch and these are the ones that always seem to reappear (I got the baseball score the first 3 times it popped up ;)). Again, no differentiating control vs. what's on the phone.

- app and watch management. I have no idea which of my Android apps have watch counterparts until I look at my watch vs. management on the Watch app on my iPhone..much more concise. The Android Wear app doesn't do that much in comparison.

- lack of tap to pay. I realize this may not matter to many but I use Apple Pay on my watch all the time.

Another thing I love, though it's a limitation of AT&T and specific to wifi-calling enabled phones is that my iPhone uses wifi calling and allow me to forward any calls from my iPhone to any other wifi capable Apple device, including my Apple Watch. I have a wifi hotspot that's using the sim from my grandfathered iPad unlimited data plan :D that lives in my car. In a pinch I can run out with just my watch and it maintains a data connection to my wifi hotspot, even without the phone on the same network, and I can take calls and receive messages. This example is very specific but it's nice how my watch remains functional as long as I'm on trusted wifi, iPhone present or not. I believe Android Wear offers similar functionality as long as the phone is on a trusted wifi network somewhere but I don't think I can get calls and not sure about SMS messages (I believe Hangouts messages would work). I just know the Apple Watch works well for these 2 functionalities.

Android Wear isn't terrible at all, just not as polished. If my first two issues (2 big ones though) weren't a problem, I'd consider them much more comparable, though I still think watchOS is a bit better. I don't like how much white Android Wear uses but it looks like the next version uses much more black instead.

The one thing I'd dying to have on either is a podcast app for syncing and downloading for offline listening.

I've taken enough of this thread with this gargantuan post...will post this as well over in the 'best Android Wear' thread and continue the discussion there.
 
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- Bluetooth issues...specifically phone can't be connected to both watch and car for phone connectivity. So if I want to leave on the option to take calls on the watch, it overridea the connection to the car, meaning I have to go into settings to disconnect before driving. Also, randomly that option would just disappear from the settings altogether. This micromanaging isn't required with the Apple Watch.

Is this an issue with all Android Wear watches? I'm currently thinking about trying an Android Wear watch coming from my current Gear 2 Neo. And from the rest of your post, I'm having second thoughts now, especially what you posted about notifications. I might just stick with Samsung Tizen watches.
 

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Is this an issue with all Android Wear watches? I'm currently thinking about trying an Android Wear watch coming from my current Gear 2 Neo. And from the rest of your post, I'm having second thoughts now, especially what you posted about notifications. I might just stick with Samsung Tizen watches.

Not sure but my guess is that it's a software issue.

I'm hopefully optimistic that the new version of Android Wear will improve on the deficiencies but until then I'll be sticking with iOS/watchOS.
 

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OK, I'm unlocked, rooted, and installed custom Recovery. Running LeeDroid ROM now :). And debloated this phone to be very stripped down, deleted a ton of apps I'll never use. Battery life will be amazing, I know it. And the phone is even snappier and fluid than before.

Nice thing with root. I was able to turn off the backlight keys on the Back and Recents buttons, and better yet was able to swap them, now the Back key is on the right, and Recents on the left, and they don't light up at all, which is the way I prefer. This was a super simple fast edit in System Settings using Root Explorer, took all of 30 seconds total.
 
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