Considering their surprise that any keypress powers on the MacBook, I think you may be correct.
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Disable Auto boot on M1 Pro Mac
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You bought a Macintosh not a Muttonjeff. Apple is to decide how their computers are supposed to work. They can decide to rename the Power button and call it a Sleep/Wake button, if that's what they want.
One doesn't need to guarantee that it is off, because it can be equally low-power as an iPad.
Then you should buy your last Intel MBP again.
I don't care. There's no point in battling a trillion dollar company and telling them, what they do is WRONG.
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Oh dear, I recognise that kind of stuff from being online in the mid 80s - we were all so much younger then, so, I'm not going to argue with you.
Just to say you seem not to understand the difference between powered off and sleep (and any other of the shades of off inbetween).
Off *and staying off* is a very important thing for anyone who uses electronics in certain environments - to think that is like 'low power' is to somewhat misunderstand the problem.
Also relying on a trillion dollar company to be correct because it is a trillion dollar company is possibly a mistake - my advice would be; try avoiding flying on a 737 MAX
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I’ve just bought a new MacBook Pro, and find that fact you can’t stop it turning on when opening the lid crazy. I work on an offshore oil rig, and this issue means that Apple laptops are not allowed to be carried on offshore flights. So my new expensive laptop is basically useless due to a daft software issue.
Welcome to the club...
Given the way macOS works, is just a dumb feature for the dumb. Off should be off period. Applies to all air travel and a royal PIA that someone completely ignored as they thought was a great idea with limited life experience
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I'm blown away that there's no setting to disable this behavior
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I've gone up to Ventura and I still can't find a way of switching off auto on.
This beggars belief, I’m astonished that Apple can't envisage a pro using this kit. Been doing this since 78 and (along with many others in the business) Apple have always had a "foolish" side to them but this takes the biscuit.
This beggars belief, I’m astonished that Apple can't envisage a pro using this kit. Been doing this since 78 and (along with many others in the business) Apple have always had a "foolish" side to them but this takes the biscuit.
Unfortunately I suspect that it is a misguided hardware feature that can’t be disabled.
Previous to COVID travelled internationally on a monthly basis. Some carriers absolutely insist off is off and you need to demonstrate. I do think the notebooks are mostly off as all connectivity is cut, however the boot on lid open illustrates the Mac is powered up to some extent.
There should be a SW switch to disable wake on lid, wake on keypress as that's the carrier's concern. A Notebook may inadvertently boot and overheat in a bag, lithium fires on aircraft and all, so there's a valid point to such concern...
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Hopefully, in a future update, the 'feature' will be modified accordingly, to reflect the angst of many users like me. But I am not holding my breath
Problem with Apple is that it can't accept or see its own mistakes, well until pressed by a court of law. So we'll will be firmly stuck with this so-called feature as Apple's hubris simply won't allow for common sense to be applied.
IMO best hope is that a smart dev comes up with an app to actually allow the user a level of control...
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This is properly mental. And it's not only about the lid trigger but also the trigger on any key press or trackpad (the fact that trackpad is live all the time is mental too).
To "geniuses" who say Apple can do no wrong - how can you confirm that you'd actually switched off your M1 MacBook? Please try not to come back with "you're a minority, you shouldn't want to switch off your laptop".
To "geniuses" who say Apple can do no wrong - how can you confirm that you'd actually switched off your M1 MacBook? Please try not to come back with "you're a minority, you shouldn't want to switch off your laptop".
Can someone explain me how to clean the damn keyboard when it's active all the time? This is the worst design decision I've ever seen.
It's one thing that the MacBook is turning on when lid is opened, but completely and utterly mad that it is powering up on any key press. Why does it have a power button again?
For those that fly internationally it needs to be fully off, on some routes. Current Mac's not the case is a joke and very short-sighted. All Apple needs to do is give the user options...
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Exactly what I have been saying for over a year now.
It makes no sense.
But I guess Apple knows better than us?
In this case absolutely not as it's ****ing with people's work. These notebooks are very obviously powered on 24/7 regardless of the state the user wants or more to the point needs.
Whoever thought this "feature" up needs a good slap. The bigger question is why exactly do the notebooks need to be powered up 24/7 as it brings no advantage to user. To me it's super simple if you want the Mac to recive mail, updates etc. overnight you just close the lid. If you want the computer off it should be fully off period...
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I get that the vibe of the thread is irrationally pissed off venting, but M1/M2 laptops do "turn off" to roughly the same extent that PC laptops "turn off". All of them have always-on microcontrollers which are powered 100% of the time that a power source (AC or a non-dead battery) is connected, and one of the jobs of this microcontroller is to decide when to power up the rest of the computer.
The only major new development in Apple Silicon Macs is that Apple gave their always-on microcontroller access to all buttons on the keyboard (rather than just one) and the lid position sensor, and wrote the firmware running on that microcontroller to use events from these sources as reasons to power up.
In the general case, not really stupid. Most users probably would want power up to act as close to wake from sleep as possible. The problem is that in certain situations, you really don't want any key starting up the computer and there is apparently no way to turn the "feature" off.
Right. If you are going to implement any keypress powers on, then have an option to disable it. If you can't give an option to disable it, then the feature isn't valuable enough to have at all. Basically, Apple took the worst possible course and created a moderately useful/useless feature that needs to be disabled for some legitimate reasons and made it non-configurable.