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Disable Auto boot on M1 Pro Mac
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Even if I use the feature and still would like to have additional power on Bluetooth or AC for example to wake up with my BT mouse or keyboard or even just by plugging/switching the power supply off the M2 in Clamshell.....
I think it could be easy to integrate this function as an "Bios" ( Parameter Ram ) option, as it is also possible in Windows laptops.
Most of the Time i use my M2 in Clamshell and Power off Overnight.
After One Week of using it there is no use off Battery cicles.
On my Windows/Unix Laptops i can edit Bios Value:
Power on AC detection.
Power on Lid.
I would like that.
As NVRAM comes after Power On and sets variables via EFI i do not think this would be the right place to edit, but could be used to set Parameter Ram.
Is there something like that in AS 1/2 ? There should be.
I think it could be easy to integrate this function as an "Bios" ( Parameter Ram ) option, as it is also possible in Windows laptops.
Most of the Time i use my M2 in Clamshell and Power off Overnight.
After One Week of using it there is no use off Battery cicles.
On my Windows/Unix Laptops i can edit Bios Value:
Power on AC detection.
Power on Lid.
I would like that.
As NVRAM comes after Power On and sets variables via EFI i do not think this would be the right place to edit, but could be used to set Parameter Ram.
Is there something like that in AS 1/2 ? There should be.
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There used to be a power manager setting using pmset but Apple removed it. I still don’t know why except Apple dislikes optional settings.
There is no NVRAM or EFI on M1. It is a totally different system and boot process. The firmware is loaded at bootup.
Why on Earth would anyone get angry because I don't want or need auto boot on my Mac and would like an option to turn it off??
I really don't understand it? Like if you don't agree and like it cool. What does it bother you to let me choose to use the power button for what it was designed for while you just open up your laptop or touch any key and it turns on for you??
What is up with some people??
I really don't understand it? Like if you don't agree and like it cool. What does it bother you to let me choose to use the power button for what it was designed for while you just open up your laptop or touch any key and it turns on for you??
What is up with some people??
If Dear Leader Apple says you don't need it, you don't need it. No arguments!
There also used to be spinning disks and hot and hungry Intel processors. Now you're on an ARM system on a chip with four high efficiency cores. No iPhone user ever complained that his handheld computer only goes to sleep when he pushes the power button. And it doesn't even sleep, it takes calls and notifications in the background. Don't try to be smarter than Apple! It's a feature, not a bug.
But you can still shut down your iPhone and then turn it on when you press the power button?
You’re kind of missing the point that some people don’t want electronics always running beyond other circumstances which you are choosing to ignore.
Try thinking differently?
Or maybe even thinking for yourself instead of having others doing the thinking for you?
It is also a feature that is completely redundant and no one asked for.
Who said you can't shutdown Macs? It's right there in the menu, top-left corner.
But you can't turn it on with the power button can you? But I was referring to you mentioning iPhone and people not complaining about the power button not shutting the device down. But you knew that and just want to play with words.
There is no other way to turn it on, after you've shut it down. Long press the TouchID/Power button.
No. You're the one who throws around words like "auto boot" and "shut down", when what you really mean is "sleep" and "wake" when opening the lid. Once you've experienced a true shut down and reboot, you will prefer a much quicker and battery saving sleep/wake cycle as the default.
I don’t even know what you think you are teaching me? Once I have experienced a true shut down?
If I shut down the Mac from the menu you previously taught me about it is shut down and not sleeping. Open the laptop or touch any keys and it boots up cold. No need to touch the power button/Touch ID. Plus unlike Windows your fingerprint doesn’t unlock the laptop but you have to enter a password or key code.
Sleeping is when the lid is simply closed.
The power button is completely redundant unless you use the Touch ID to buy something or wake from sleep.
From cold start it is at most 10 seconds to desktop. Not much of hassle as opposed to wake from sleep which is almost instantaneous. I can wait ten seconds without being frustrated.
It is not like the days when you could make a cup of coffee while your computer booted up.
I also disable hybrid sleep mode in windows so when I shut the PC off it doesn’t hibernate but actually shuts down.
But please tell me what a true shutdown is?
Auto boot is what the feature you love so much is called technically. I didn’t pull out the word out of my imagination.
Yeah, based on the thread below, it looks like that's not an option on AS.
But, just curious: Let's suppose you open up your laptop, and it auto-boots. If what you want is just to clean your KB, can't you shut it down at that point?
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But, just curious: Let's suppose you open up your laptop, and it auto-boots. If what you want is just to clean your KB, can't you shut it down at that point?
How to disable M1 Mac auto-boot on lid open?
There have been answers that describe how this can be prevented for Intel Macs using an NVRAM setting, but this AutoBoot setting has no effect on an M1 Mac. There is a similar auto-boot setting in ...
Yes, after booting up you first need the password to lock into the security enclave, which then later on will accept your fingerprint. So when you keep the lid open all the time and only shut it down, touching any key will immediately cause a boot up? That sounds very strange.
You can shut it down but if you clean the keyboard it auto-boots again and then as you are cleaning it is typing.Yeah, based on the thread below, it looks like that's not an option on AS.
But, just curious: Let's suppose you open up your laptop, and it auto-boots. If what you want is just to clean your KB, can't you shut it down at that point?
How to disable M1 Mac auto-boot on lid open?
There have been answers that describe how this can be prevented for Intel Macs using an NVRAM setting, but this AutoBoot setting has no effect on an M1 Mac. There is a similar auto-boot setting in ...
Obviously you can just shut it down again when you are done but it is annoying.
I like to wipe the keyboard down when I am done using the computer. I shut it down and very lightly brush the keyboard with no pressure and it auto boots.
The biggest problem is when it is plugged n a bag and the lid pressed on a key and it autoboots. I had a MBP that got rather toasty inside my bag and I had no idea it was even on.
Now that I have an air it is not as much a concern of overheating.
However why is it such a hard thing to simply just use the power button and not when any key is pressed or I open the lid.
I have a Lenovo laptop as I previously posted and it defaults to the same auto boot when you open the lid but there is a toggle switch in the Lenovo Vantage app to turn the feature off. Very simple. Apple could do the same thing. Also the Lenovo will not turn on when any key is depressed like the Apple. If you shut down the PC with the lid open and clean the keyboard it doesn’t turn back on like the Mac does.
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I have had a M1 13” MBP, a 14” M1 MBP, a 16” M1 MBP and now a M2 MBA and they will all start if I keep the lid open and shut down, then using any key on the keyboard. I know because I try to clean my keyboard before I close the laptop and after I shut it down.
It is not touching the Touch ID power button either as I tested making sure I just touched a random key before I cleaned the keyboard and it started right up.
Well, then that is a new design flaw by Apple specifically introduced for laptops with Apple Silicon. When I shutdown the M1 iMac, no keyboard or mouse click and no usb-stick will boot it up. Not even the TouchID button, only the Power button on the back of the iMac.
Yes I would agree with you. It is a design flaw but many think of it as a feature. Regardless I just want the option of turning it off. If you like it no problem but I should have the choice if I don’t like the feature.
As it has previously been posted in this thread Intel MacBooks had a terminal command which disabled the auto boot command but Apple got rid of it with M series chips.
I guess I should have worded the title of the initial post with MacBook and not Mac as I was only talking about MacBooks but then how could you open the lid of a iMac or put it in a laptop bag???
Given how Mac's operate it's just a nonsense or lazy move by Apple. There's no reason to shut down the Mac in normal use, just close the lid and it will sleep. However, if it's required to be powered down it should stay fully off until the user hits the power button.
As has been illustrated there just some circumstances where the computer is expected to be fully powered off with no ability to auto start. Right now, if you need to fly with an M1/M2 Mac and the carrier mandates off is off only solution is to disconnect the battery or buy a PC...
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As has been illustrated there just some circumstances where the computer is expected to be fully powered off with no ability to auto start. Right now, if you need to fly with an M1/M2 Mac and the carrier mandates off is off only solution is to disconnect the battery or buy a PC...
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Given how Mac's operate it's just a nonsense or lazy move by Apple. There's no reason to shut down the Mac in normal use, just close the lid and it will sleep. However, if it's required to be powered down it should stay fully off until the user hits the power button.
As has been illustrated there just some circumstances where the computer is expected to be fully powered off with no ability to auto start. Right now, if you need to fly with an M1/M2 Mac and the carrier mandates off is off only solution is to disconnect the battery or buy a PC...
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In my mind if I want to put thevMac to sleep or shut it down when I am done it should be up to me.
If I want it to start up when I open the lid or only when I use the power button it should be up to me.
It literally costs Apple nothing to add a toggle switch in the settings menu.
I thought the slogan think differently didn't mean decide for me.
I can understand wanting to make things easier but sometimes making things easier makes them more complicated when you want to do something different than assumed or default behavior.
Kind of why I prefer terminal commands to a GUI. Lol
That should be the case for the notebooks given they are far more likely to be in situations where they need to be fully powered down. So, to my thinking it's an oversight on Apple's behalf.
All Apple needs to do is add a terminal command via pmset to isolate the lid & KB wake...
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Over a year ago I talked with Apple support about it and they just said there was no option to disable auto-boot and it was normal behavior?
For features like Find My Mac, Time Machine, mail and notifications, you generally want your Mac to be always-on like an iPhone and there isn't much of a battery or heat penalty in sleep mode anymore. The magnets on the lid are quite strong and won't open up themselves in a bag. So one could see booting up on lid opening as a convenience feature. But booting on any random key press? That's a bit much.
Nonetheless you shouldn't worry too much whether your MacBook is completely shutdown or just sleeping. In a few years Apple might fix this flaw and introduce some other new flaws, which are way more annoying.
That's all I want is a couple of Terminal comands to allow me as the user to control the wake state. I'm another that can fly on smaller aircraft including helicopters and the carriers are cautious for good reason. Intel you can use Terminal, Apple Silicon?
I don't get the hate, if Apple offered the option to alter the notebook's wake state it won't remotely effect those that like the current auto on status. Problem as any long-term Mac user knows Apple rarely if ever admits it's errors even with massive HW design flaws, unless pressed by court action let alone SW issues.
Therefore, I have no expectation of a fix coming out of Apple. Maybe a dev will look at it and come up with an app/script to control the wake behaviour with greater fidelity...
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I'm sorry mate, but who are you to tell me what to worry about? You bandy around terms like sleep and power off and stuff like that which makes me suspicious that you don't really know what you are talking about.
But it is really, really simple I, having paid a *lot* of money for the top end M1, expect for it to work like I would expect any of the computers PC or Macs or, indeed, Macintoshes I have both now and had in the past.
I want it on when I want it on - forget that someone here can no longer use it cos he can't guarantee that it is off (despite this argument you insist on telling us not to worry).
It’s simple I want power on to be like my last MBP.
If you want auto power on I will join you on the battlements to get it - just as I would expect you to join me to get what I want – given it doesn’t effect you either way, but it does me.