Do people fuss over Samsung Galaxy phones like iPhones?

[Savor]

People love a good rat race (higher demand/lower stock).

People love capitalism (iPhones have highest resell value) .

People want to use their camping equipment... I hear the great outdoors became scary after Friday the 13th and U-Turn.

Launch day iPhones is equivalent to a Star Wars movie opening day/midnight showings, Black Friday, and those video game consoles launch days of before like PS3/Xbox 360. Basically a good time for lonely geeks and diehard fanatics to all come together and have a cool experience.

My iPhone 4 launch day was great. Best Buy for 30 mins since I was the 11th for pre-order and I was out. Went to the grand opening Apple Store in Los Cerritos Mall and got a black bumper. Got inside within 10 min because I was in the accessories line. Got a bottle of water and free Apple/Los Cerritos shirt. Apple workers were clapping and enthusiastic. Watch that launch day iPhone 5 video. Just like that. Saw the Karate Kid remake the same day (June 24, 2010) which was average but still enjoyed it because I was still glowing I had a new iPhone 4! That's how happy I was that day.

Sometimes it isn't all about the final result or trophy (iPhone) at the end. It is about the overall experience! The actual journey. The struggle and joyful euphoria of getting that latest iPhone. You can always lose an iPhone and just replace it. But you can't always replace a great experience or memory every year. Sometimes it can be about capitalism. Sometimes it is just taking a day off from work and going outside. And sometimes it is about the overall experience and memory over that actual fuss and end result...

 

[gotluck]

And? You aren't that good at math. The note 3 is massive compared with the 6+. Yes, we know that the 6+ is a bit taller.

Lol that is just ridiculous. You just ooze bias as usual. Don't know why you come in this forum section

 

[Oohara]

Oh the verge..

Pretty sure David pierce works for apple

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To be fair the N3 review is from one year ago. The general paradigm seems to have been shifting towards much bigger phones in general since then, so I think most folks are making more of an effort to give them a chance now.

Meanwhile, with Apple finally jumping aboard the phablet train, there goes the last bastion that was defending "one handed use" and 4" screens. So now, noone has a choice anymore. Phablets are being sold on both sides of the fence so even those who hate Android now don't have any choice but to give them a chance.

And of course, a certain measure of "if Apple does it, it must be good" cannot be ignored, that's the strength of their position as a brand. I just don't think it's all because of that.

At any rate I personally never read The Verge for any in-depth info as most of their reviews seem very shallow. I check that site mostly for the large photos lol.

And? You aren't that good at math. The note 3 is massive compared with the 6+. Yes, we know that the 6+ is a bit taller.

On the length vs. thickness debate, of course there is a zone of optimal chassi dimensions for any given display size. In the case of the N3 vs the 6 Plus, I think it's fair to say that the length of the 6 Plus is probably in most cases more of an issue than the thickness of the N3.

My Note 2 is both thicker and heavier than the N3, but in normal cotton slacks the bulge is never an issue. On the other hand the top of the phone almost sticks out of the pocket, so most likely the 6 Plus would actually stick out and that I wouldn't particularly like.

Furthermore, iPhone users have always been quick to point out that people look stupid when talking into a Note 3. Here the thickness of the phone is of little importance - the area of the front and back of the device is the concern. This measurement is greater on the 6 Plus, and above all the device is very noticeably taller, so it follows then that people will look even more stupid speaking into one of those.

In general noone has complained about the weight of the N3, so that should hardly be an issue either. So the fact that the 6 Plus is lighter hardly makes up for the front and back area being greater, and especially the phone being taller, than the N3.

Bottom line: using the mass of the device is quite irrelevant in the comparison between these devices.

Disclaimer: I love both these devices and would buy both a Note 4 and 6 Plus if I had the cash.

 

[jamesrick80]

I'm pretty sure I could do the same things on all of them to be honest lol.

Haha now you have to be kidding me, I have a iPad Air and cannot do the same things that I do on my note 2.....

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Haha now you have to be kidding me, I have a iPad Air and cannot do the same things that I do on my note 2.....

And I am sure there are things you can do on the iPad you can't on the Note, no kidding. This is a pointless avenue of debate really and I'm a little too old to be participating

 

[jamesrick80]

And I am sure there are things you can do on the iPad you can't on the Note, no kidding. This is a pointless avenue of debate really and I'm a little too old to be participating

Not true.....

 

[pdqgp]

Haha now you have to be kidding me, I have a iPad Air and cannot do the same things that I do on my note 2.....

Agree. love my iPad Air but it lacks quite a bit in terms of functionality vs a Note. Give the darn thing a stylus already.

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And? You aren't that good at math. The note 3 is massive compared with the 6+. Yes, we know that the 6+ is a bit taller.

again with your constant lack of data and facts.

Please how "massive" in the form of facts. 1.2.3.go

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Not true.....

If you can access the App Store, send an iMessage, FaceTime your mate and sync it to iTunes then fair enough.

There are pros and cons of both Android and iOS. There are things you can do on Android you can't do on iOS and vice versa, fact. It's a pointless discussion because it's not fooling anybody.

 

[jamesrick80]

If you can access the App Store, send an iMessage, FaceTime your mate and sync it to iTunes then fair enough.

There are pros and cons of both Android and iOS. There are things you can do on Android you can't do on iOS and vice versa, fact. It's a pointless discussion because it's not fooling anybody.

Android has different applications that do the same thing, it may not be called FaceTime or iTunes, but I can perform the same tasks. I was not trying to differentiate the various applications. Furthermore, I can do things on my galaxy device that you wish you could do but can't, there are no limitations...Thank you

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Do people fuss over Samsung Galaxy phones like iPhones?

Android has different applications that do the same thing, it may not be called FaceTime or iTunes, but I can perform the same tasks. I was not trying to differentiate the various applications. Thank you

Alright, there are work arounds on both systems. This is why it's a pointless discussion.

 

[swy05]

And? You aren't that good at math. The note 3 is massive compared with the 6+. Yes, we know that the 6+ is a bit taller.

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Why don't you read Josh's review, then? He basically says that they are by far the 2 best phones in the market, just like every reviewer.

Yeah, cherry pick those specs.

iPhone 6 +
6.22 x 3.06 x 0.28 inches
172g

Note 3
5.95 x 3.12 x 0.33 inches
168g

So the 6+ is slightly taller and weighs 4g more than a note 3. The note 3 is slightly wider/thicker.

So you either sacrifice for a slightly taller and heavier phone or slightly thicker/wider phone.

So how on your planet is the Note 3 massive compared to the 6 plus?

Oh yeah, you forgot another thing. The Note 3 has a bigger .2 inch screen.

Wanna see how big the iphone would get with a .2 inch bigger screen?

Seems like you're the one who's not good at math here. Or have a really skewed sense of what's considered "massive".

Don't forget that .2 inches of screen real estate.


If you really want to talk about massive, compare the 6+ with the G3. Now that is what you call massive.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

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Hmmmm i'll contact the mods too as I'm not sure why you've done that. If I've offended you then don't worry, our paths will not cross on here again. All the best

 

[pedromcm.pm]

Yeah, cherry pick those specs.

iPhone 6 +
6.22 x 3.06 x 0.28 inches
172g

Note 3
5.95 x 3.12 x 0.33 inches
168g

So the 6+ is slightly taller and weighs 4g more than a note 3. The note 3 is slightly wider/thicker.

So you either sacrifice for a slightly taller and heavier phone or slightly thicker/wider phone.

So how on your planet is the Note 3 massive compared to the 6 plus?

Oh yeah, you forgot another thing. The Note 3 has a bigger .2 inch screen.

Wanna see how big the iphone would get with a .2 inch bigger screen?

Seems like you're the one who's not good at math here. Or have a really skewed sense of what's considered "massive".

Don't forget that .2 inches of screen real estate.


If you really want to talk about massive, compare the 6+ with the G3. Now that is what you call massive.

If the iPhone 6 + is "huge" compared with the note 4, the same note is MASSIVE compared with the iPhone.

158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm = 87331

153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm = 102557

That's a lot of difference in volume, and the iPhone is taller. This means that it is really user to put your hand around the iPhone, and it becomes very comfortable (rounded edges) compared with the note 4.

Aren't you able to gasp this? The note 4 is also just a tad heavier (irrelevant, I know)

 

[Shanghaichica]

If the iPhone 6 + is "huge" compared with the note 4, the same note is MASSIVE compared with the iPhone.

158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm = 87331

153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm = 102557

That's a lot of difference in volume, and the iPhone is taller. This means that it is really user to put your hand around the iPhone, and it becomes very comfortable (rounded edges) compared with the note 4.

Aren't you able to gasp this? The note 4 is also just a tad heavier (irrelevant, I know)

I think you'd have to hold both phones before you can say which feels better in the hand.

 

[pedromcm.pm]

I think you'd have to hold both phones before you can say which feels better in the hand.

the iPhone plus is much easier to grab.

 

[MRU]

the iPhone plus is much easier to grab.

Even it the iPhone was made out barbed wire and rusty razor blades something tells me you would still post the same comment .....

 

[swy05]

If the iPhone 6 + is "huge" compared with the note 4, the same note is MASSIVE compared with the iPhone.

158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm = 87331

153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm = 102557

That's a lot of difference in volume, and the iPhone is taller. This means that it is really user to put your hand around the iPhone, and it becomes very comfortable (rounded edges) compared with the note 4.

Aren't you able to gasp this? The note 4 is also just a tad heavier (irrelevant, I know)

Weren't you originally talking about the Note 3 being massive compared to the 6 +. So why are you bringing in the argument that Note 4 is heavier than the Note 3? Cherry picking points again I see?

Why are you posting up the dimensions of the Note 4? Weren't you the one who was comparing the 6+ with the Note 3? Cherry picking points again I see.

If you're going to cherry pick, at least do the calculations correctly. 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm is not 102557.

Lol at measuring the volume of an object as if that's a good determination of what's comfortable or not. So according to your "defacto" tool of what's wieldy or not, you're going to use the volume of an object. So then if you were to have a phone that is 170 x 50 x 6.5 mm, then this would be the ideal compact phone correct? Because hey, after all, the volume is much smaller than other phones right?

Like I said before, you can't even properly compare the phones because a Note 3 has a .2 inch bigger screen than the 6+. I'll ask again because you can't answer it but, what would happen if Apple had a .2 inch bigger screen?

 

[pedromcm.pm]

Even it the iPhone was made out barbed wire and rusty razor blades something tells me you would still post the same comment .....

I don't care about what you think.

If someone says that the note is difficult to hold but has no problem with the iPhone Plus, there's no bias there: The iPhone is much thinner, less wide, and has rounded edges.

 

[jamesrick80]

I don't care about what you think.

If someone says that the note is difficult to hold but has no problem with the iPhone Plus, there's no bias there: The iPhone is much thinner, less wide, and has rounded edges.

Lol much thinner, you should search those measurements on Google, it's not much thinner....you are being naive ...facts are facts

 

[pedromcm.pm]

Weren't you originally talking about the Note 3 being massive compared to the 6 +. So why are you bringing in the argument that Note 4 is heavier than the Note 3? Cherry picking points again I see?

Why are you posting up the dimensions of the Note 4? Weren't you the one who was comparing the 6+ with the Note 3? Cherry picking points again I see.

If you're going to cherry pick, at least do the calculations correctly. 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm is not 102557.

Lol at measuring the volume of an object as if that's a good determination of what's comfortable or not. So according to your "defacto" tool of what's wieldy or not, you're going to use the volume of an object. So then if you were to have a phone that is 170 x 50 x 6.5 mm, then this would be the ideal compact phone correct? Because hey, after all, the volume is much smaller than other phones right?

Like I said before, you can't even properly compare the phones because a Note 3 has a .2 inch bigger screen than the 6+. I'll ask again because you can't answer it but, what would happen if Apple had a .2 inch bigger screen?

I was always talking about the Note 4. Between the 2, it is much easier to use the iPhone with one hand and grab it.

Stop being so ******** about it. You can still buy one and enjoy it, despite the fact that it will be completely buried by the new iPhones.

I'm not interested in discussing hypothetical situations. Apple release products X and Y. Samsung has products A (s5) and B (note 4).

X + Y will bury A+ B. Samsung will keep declining. You will enjoy the devices that you want to enjoy. I will do the same. The note 4 looks like a very nice device. Besides Samsung, everybody will be happy and use what they want to use.

Just stop with lies and FUD. The iPhone is more easy to grab and comfortably use with your hand around it. The Verge is correct. Anatomy and Mathematics support them. Samsung Fanboys are wrong.

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Lol much thinner, you should search those measurements on Google, it's not much thinner....you are being naive ...facts are facts

A thinner device with almost 20 % less volume makes a huge difference when trying to hold it, especially when these devices are on the limit of one hand operation.

The Verge is right, Fanboys are wrong.

 

[rrl]

"I don't care what you think, the iPhablet is massively thinner."

"I don't care what you think, the iPhablet is tons thinner."

"I don't care what you think, the iPhablet is eons thinner."

 

[jamesrick80]

I was always talking about the Note 4. Between the 2, it is much easier to use the iPhone with one hand and grab it.

Stop being so ******** about it. You can still buy one and enjoy it, despite the fact that it will be completely buried by the new iPhones.

I'm not interested in discussing hypothetical situations. Apple release products X and Y. Samsung has products A (s5) and B (note 4).

X + Y will bury A+ B. Samsung will keep declining. You will enjoy the devices that you want to enjoy. I will do the same. The note 4 looks like a very nice device. Besides Samsung, everybody will be happy and use what they want to use.

Just stop with lies and FUD. The iPhone is more easy to grab and comfortably use with your hand around it. The Verge is correct. Anatomy and Mathematics support them. Samsung Fanboys are wrong.

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A thinner device with almost 20 % less volume makes a huge difference when trying to hold it, especially when these devices are on the limit of one hand operation.

The Verge is right, Fanboys are wrong.

Whatever, the iphone 6 is slippery and has to be covered with a case, you guys will never see whatever thinness it will have...the notes are surely thin enough as well...

 

[Oohara]

I was always talking about the Note 4. Between the 2, it is much easier to use the iPhone with one hand and grab it.

Stop being so ******** about it. You can still buy one and enjoy it, despite the fact that it will be completely buried by the new iPhones.

I'm not interested in discussing hypothetical situations. Apple release products X and Y. Samsung has products A (s5) and B (note 4).

X + Y will bury A+ B. Samsung will keep declining. You will enjoy the devices that you want to enjoy. I will do the same. The note 4 looks like a very nice device. Besides Samsung, everybody will be happy and use what they want to use.

Just stop with lies and FUD. The iPhone is more easy to grab and comfortably use with your hand around it. The Verge is correct. Anatomy and Mathematics support them. Samsung Fanboys are wrong.

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A thinner device with almost 20 % less volume makes a huge difference when trying to hold it, especially when these devices are on the limit of one hand operation.

The Verge is right, Fanboys are wrong.

I love how you state your opinions as if they were absolutes. Actually I think many would disagree with you. This is from the Engadget review for example:

The iPhone 6 Plus is difficult to use one-handed, not to mention more uncomfortable than similar-sized phones.

There's no avoiding it: The Plus is even bigger than it looks. It's easier to acclimate to the Plus if you're already used to large phones, but even then, this is a massive piece of kit. Let's do a close comparison with the 5.7-inch Samsung Galaxy Note 3, for instance (I have a review unit handy, and the unreleased Note 4 has similar dimensions). The Plus is nearly 7mm taller, 1.4mm narrower and 1.2mm thinner than the Note. Both are huge, and their width can fatigue even the biggest of hands if you hold on long enough. When you have a big handset, your fingers need to secure a firm grip; the Note's straight, ridged sides and textured back make for a relatively easy grip. With the 6 Plus, though, those narrow, rounded edges feel sharper when the tips of your fingers are grasping on for dear life, and the aluminum is slipperier. I got used to the design, but it takes time.

We are all entitled to our opinions of course, but I find this reviewer to be more believable than you since he backs up his statements with arguments that seem at least somewhat based in logic.

 

[pdqgp]

The Verge is right, Fanboys are wrong.

I agree.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/16/6154975/iphone-6-review

Some points from their review:

• Everything is better and nothing is different, et there’s nothing truly ambitious here, no grand vision of the future or of a new way of living in the present.
  
• Apple doesn’t have better ideas about how to make use of more display real estate, or how to help users navigate a bigger device.
  
• It’s not on the precipice of offering a new kind of do-it-all computer
  
• The latest iPhones could have been a chance for Apple to really re-examine what smartphone hardware should be, but Apple just built a bigger iPhone.
  
• It’s still an iPhone; the same thing Apple’s been making for seven years.

 

[pedromcm.pm]

I agree.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/16/6154975/iphone-6-review

Some points from their review:

• Everything is better and nothing is different, et there’s nothing truly ambitious here, no grand vision of the future or of a new way of living in the present.
  
• Apple doesn’t have better ideas about how to make use of more display real estate, or how to help users navigate a bigger device.
  
• It’s not on the precipice of offering a new kind of do-it-all computer
  
• The latest iPhones could have been a chance for Apple to really re-examine what smartphone hardware should be, but Apple just built a bigger iPhone.
  
• It’s still an iPhone; the same thing Apple’s been making for seven years.

And the best phone they ever reviewed, with the highest score they ever gave, only behind MBAir and iPads.

Better than everything else out there.