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Do You Like Tim Cook?

Do You Like Tim Cook?

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brofkand

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He does not have the vision that Jobs had. I don't think iPhones would have camera bumps or notches if Jobs were still around, for example. They are ugly and lazy solutions to problems.

But he was absolutely the right successor to Jobs. I'm not sure Apple could have picked a better leader. He just needs strong people to be there with him. Jobs kept Forstall and Ive in check to an extent. There would never have been a 24K Apple Watch under Jobs - maybe not an Apple Watch at all frankly.

Today we are seeing what Apple was ran like in the 90's. The difference is Apple today is wildly successful in doing it. But Sears was wildly successful in the 50's. Things change and I'm not sure Cook can pivot Apple like Jobs did in the 90's. I don't think he has the vision to do it. I'd love to be wrong.
 
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boss.king

boss.king

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imdog said:
- He bricked every Apple Watch Series 3
- Jelly scrolling iPad mini
- Vibrating cameras
- Peeling iPad airs
- Released an iPad that still uses Apple Pencil 1 but can't charge Apple Pencil 1 without a dongle
- but said dongle is on an over one month delay
- AirPods max spontaneously combusting into flames
- bad bluetooth on Mac minis
- fired Johnny Ive
- PUT A NOTCH ON A LAPTOP WITHOUT EVEN HAVING FACE ID THEN GETS RID OF THE NOTCH FROM IPHONE
- discontinues mini iPhone and now every phone is so large no NBA player in the world could use it one handed. matter of fact they couldn't use an iPhone mini one handed because they're all too big, but this pathetic scumbag only cares about profit margins so they brainwash people into thinking they want to carry around tablets.
- half of MacBook is squared and half is rounded, terrible design
- fattened the whole lineup of everything making them so complicated and so many stupid names too
- now everyone is fleeing from his tyrannical rein and there are no design experts left
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I'm not really a fan of Cook (or any big tech CEO for that matter) but I also think that this list of things you attribute to him alone is wild. I take it you don't have a strong understanding of how businesses operate.

I do think it's time for Apple to focus less on the penny-pinching and get back to a more refined, well thought-out lineup, but this is also a problem with capitalism and publicly traded companies in general. The line can't go up forever.
 
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I7guy

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brofkand said:
He does not have the vision that Jobs had. I don't think iPhones would have camera bumps or notches if Jobs were still around, for example. They are ugly and lazy solutions to problems.
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If Jobs were still around the iphone 6 and Apple Pencil wouldn't have been released either and maybe Apple would be stuck where it was. So there is that.
brofkand said:
But he was absolutely the right successor to Jobs. I'm not sure Apple could have picked a better leader. He just needs strong people to be there with him. Jobs kept Forstall and Ive in check to an extent. There would never have been a 24K Apple Watch under Jobs - maybe not an Apple Watch at all frankly.
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Yes. It could be the Steve Jobs Apple - if he was still alive - would have a market cap of $340B and floundering.
brofkand said:
Today we are seeing what Apple was ran like in the 90's. The difference is Apple today is wildly successful in doing it. But Sears was wildly successful in the 50's. Things change and I'm not sure Cook can pivot Apple like Jobs did in the 90's. I don't think he has the vision to do it. I'd love to be wrong.
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Cook did pivot Apple, like a slingshot. Maybe it pivoted in a way you do not care for, but Apple pivoted.
 
I7guy

I7guy

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RSB96 said:
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The question is, will Tim Cook's successor be good enough to bring Apple back to the Steve Jobs era, or will it be a Tim Cook 2.0 that will keep stretching the gum until the machine breaks?
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You left out a third choice. And that choice is will Tim Cook 2.0 repivot Apple and hit it out of the ball park (which implies the machine doesn't break, but it gets a much better oil change)...much to the chagrin of those who don't like Tim Cook to begin with.
 
I7guy

I7guy

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naasrd said:
He’s a phoney who, if it weren’t for adjectives, would be entirely mute. He hasn’t uttered one original sentence since taking over. Everting is “fantastic, incredible, amazing…”, it’s rarely any of those. There have been more mess ups in one month of his tenure than in the entirety of Jobs‘ time at Apple. Bug, after, bug after bug…. What Steve ever saw in him God only knows.
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Ymmv. Couldn't disagree more. Whatever Steve saw in him, he took Apple and hit it out of the ballpark. Those who focus on the bugs, thankfully there is plenty of competition. And yes, only Gd does know what Steve saw in Tim.
 
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senttoschool

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I think Apple's stock price would be higher with Cook than Jobs today.

However, Apple's future might be brighter with Jobs today because Jobs would have launched a few more breakthrough products than Cook. For example, we might have an Apple Car today if Jobs is alive. Or we could be 2-3 generations into AR/VR already.

But with Jobs, I don't think we would have had as much optimization in iPhone, iPad, Mac lineups as well as services.
 
Pakaku

Pakaku

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I'm sure the guy is fine, but the company's business decisions lately have not impressed me.

The whole "Tim Crook!" thing is kind of cringey, by the way
 
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TopToffee

TopToffee

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turbineseaplane said:
As someone who's lost multiple close family members, very early, to cancer and ALS, I can promise you that things get strange and foggy down the stretch -- and people start doing things and acting in ways you'd not expect.
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It was known that Cook was the chosen one long before the end though.
 
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AbhijitShanbhag

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imdog said:
I absolutely loathe the crook. Apple has gone pathetically downhill and I feel like I'm holding on out of nostalgia for the old Apple. Right now I can't work out because these boneheads screwed up WatchOS on the latest update and now every Series 3 in existence is suddenly unusable. I use it as my heart rate monitor for my Peloton. Might as well just keep buying and returning new Apple Watches until these lazy thieves finally get around to un-bricking our watches. I've thought long & hard about filing a class action lawsuit against this clown for what he's done to Apple, I can't believe the estate of Steve Jobs hasn't went after this bozo with litigation of likes the world has never seen.

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Absolute moron, lets take a look at what's going on under his tenure and I won't even get into all the BS politics of this Benedict Arnold either which is the worst part.

- He bricked every Apple Watch Series 3
- Jelly scrolling iPad mini
- Vibrating cameras
- Peeling iPad airs
- Released an iPad that still uses Apple Pencil 1 but can't charge Apple Pencil 1 without a dongle
- but said dongle is on an over one month delay
- AirPods max spontaneously combusting into flames
- bad bluetooth on Mac minis
- fired Johnny Ive
- PUT A NOTCH ON A LAPTOP WITHOUT EVEN HAVING FACE ID THEN GETS RID OF THE NOTCH FROM IPHONE
- discontinues mini iPhone and now every phone is so large no NBA player in the world could use it one handed. matter of fact they couldn't use an iPhone mini one handed because they're all too big, but this pathetic scumbag only cares about profit margins so they brainwash people into thinking they want to carry around tablets.
- half of MacBook is squared and half is rounded, terrible design
- fattened the whole lineup of everything making them so complicated and so many stupid names too
- now everyone is fleeing from his tyrannical rein and there are no design experts left

take a trip down memory lane, read it and weep, this guy needs to be fired and kicked to the curb before he destroys whats left of Apple. I'm almost considering becoming one of those people with green texts because of how diasasterous this Nike glasses wearing bum. Take a hike
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He is a good CEO, until may be 2019 to early 2020, since then don't know exactly what happened, I am feeling an steady fall of Apple Product's Design, and a completely messed up Product Line Up, I used to be very defensive of Apple on this, but I can't do so further, when things are going beyond limit. Except the Silicon, nothing, absolutely nothing is as great as it was
 
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XboxEvolved

XboxEvolved

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My answer probably would have been different a year or so ago, but I am going to have to go with no I don't care for him. Apple didn't get to be the most valuable company in the world because he's a nice guy and does nice things, and while Apple as a whole is a great company, they'd be just fine without him.

Also someone powerful within Hollywood must not really like him either because the otherday I was watching Jurassic World Dominion, and the CEO of the evil company in the movie HAS to be a parody of him. There is no way he isn't.
 
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Wahlstrm

Wahlstrm

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Never actually met the guy, so its hard to say.

But looking at revenue, it seems like the avg customer is happier than ever.
Guessing that goes for shareholders as well..
 
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Unami

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TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 said:
Let me just say... Terminator Cook. He has definitely been on Power Saving Mode.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1584523174229966850

Do you guys think F1 will invite him over again?
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Haha, there's some energetic guy enjoying his life. He looks like someone just took a dump in front of his face.

Although he does look a little more authentic than when he's presenting new apple stuff. I think, if he'd stay in the background and keep that image of a dry, no-fun guy, while there was some entertaining guy with less clenched jaws in the front row, that would kind of look better.

He might be a "master of the supply chain", but his public performance alone is probably one of the reasons, apple has increasingly over the last years been described as cold and greedy.
 
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