well latest rumour from one UK retailer that the S8 will be priced at £799 with the S8 plus being at £899.
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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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will see..hope not.
If you look at Apples history so far under Cook, why do you think they won't price the iPhone Edition 8, or whatever it's called, over $1000 plus? What's the reasoning you have?
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That's one website only and they priced the G6 at the same cost I believe. Neither price has actually been released by the manufactures yet so take them with a pinch of salt for now.
Pragmatism.
Apple isn't perfect, but they aren't run by idiots either. Unless supply of the iPhone 8 is so constrained, too high a price would dissuade most customers from getting one unless it was really chock full of extra features the other iPhones don't get.
My guess is that Apple currently has a plan A and B. Plan A is contingent on them getting enough quantities of all components required, in which case all iPhones shipped are iPhone 8 models. If they are facing supply constraints (e.g.: insufficient quantities of OLED screens), then we may see iPhone 7s as the normal iPhone with iPhone 8 in limited quantities. Essentially Plan B.
That's likely what happened with the rumours of the iPhone Pro last year (in case Apple couldn't get enough dual-camera modules).
My money is on this iPhone edition costing an extra $100 over the most expensive "normal" iPhone max.
you forgot to mention that if you wanna use ALL those devices mentioned in your post, you gotta pay about $3000+.
But thats a minor detail I guess
I would rather spend a little more on the products which I know will work well for me, then spend less on stuff which won't work as well for me.
When you look at what you are getting, Apple products aren't really that much more expensive than the competition.
When you start upping storage they are, and this rumoured iPhone 8 will cost yet more still. OK so Samsung aren't far off iPhone prices but you can get a flagship from LG, Sony, Motorola and not to mention OnePlus etc for significantly less. I tried an Android phone last October and was amazed at how good they are. Arguably better than iPhones and much cheaper (if you avoid the latest & greatest Samsung offering). I stuck with it and with each passing month I'm less likely to move back.
I think the S8/S8+ are a fair price considering the screen size and 64GB of onboard storage. Obviously we are also screwed because of brexit.
What's standard on android, 100% across the board? Live Photos, 3dt, etc? Unlike the ir blaster and sd cards, Apple will support its features moving forward, in its flagships.
As far as incremental updates, every next iphone is incremental or evolutionary. it depends on your price value equation as to the worth. That's why I bought the 7 after last years 6s; to me it was worth it.
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I see.
If you ask me, that's DOA. Sorry Sony.
[doublepost=1489152377][/doublepost]Regarding the price of the iPhone edition, I'm betting due to low yield rates and supply constraints, it'll definitely cost a high premium price. I would bet Apple will load it up with high storage to make it more enticing. No way it'll start at 32gb. Probably 64gb. If they're smart, they'll start it at 128gb.
But regardless of price, which we can only speculate at, the point is, it sucks that there could be a third and higher tier iPhone that has the features and design elements already in today's flagships. This isn't the way I was expecting Apple to catch up to the competition. What will the 7S series, whom the vast majority of buyers will get, be then? Effectively a three year old design going into its fourth year? More feature fragmentation between this year's flagships?
To get the best of Apple, you have to get the iPhone edition. Whereas with Samsung or google, it's more a matter of choosing between screen sizes, with little to no other compromise except for obviously battery size and screen.
This is where it hurts. Finally the iPhone gets exciting again (I really love the gesture bar rumor and hope that it's the solution to ios' inconsistent back navigation) but only if you can shell out for a third and higher, more expensive model.
It'll sell like hot cakes and no doubt people will find the premium price worth it to them -- selling well is never a concern with Apple really -- but for the customer and our choices? Not cool.
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OLED(literally every Android flagship has it now),Wireless charging,second screen, curved edge displays ,no bezels, Apple Pencil support, Iris scanners, VR. These are real upgrades for me. Your talk about 3dt,live photos pale in comparison. I can count on my fingers the number of times I used 3DT since I got my phone in October last year.
Everything I just said is available on Android for $800 or less currently.To get these very same features I have to pay more than 1K to get them.
Have you seen how Android manufacturers are evolving their designs? And Apple is asking me to pay $969 for the same design for the fourth time in a row and to get their real new iPhone 8 with the brand new design I gotta pay more than 1k
If this were Jobs era I can guarantee the iPhone Edition would be the iPhone 8. But in the face of probable declining revenues they are milking the existing customers as much as they can.
Galaxy S5 (2014)
Galaxy S6 Edge (2015)
Galaxy S7 Edge (design didnt change much)
Galaxy S8 (2017)
Now for the iPhone
iPhone 6 (2014)
iPhone 6s (2015)
iPhone 7 (2016)
Literally this is the same old dated design rehashed 3 times already
None of that invalidates the point that iPhone has features not standard on every android handset or that these phone updates across the board are incremental in nature. Oled is not a hardware change I would pay for in and of itself, because the current iPhone screens are great, nor would I give up 3dt for oled.
Agreed those pictures you posted make it look like all incremental updates from the outside, but the insides are completely different.
Plus it's also great you know exactly where Apple would be today and what Steve jobs would have done if he were alive.
Me thinks the iphone 7s will continue that tradition too.....OLED(literally every Android flagship has it now),Wireless charging,second screen, curved edge displays ,no bezels, Apple Pencil support, Iris scanners, VR. These are real upgrades for me. Your talk about 3dt,live photos pale in comparison. I can count on my fingers the number of times I used 3DT since I got my phone in October last year.
Everything I just said is available on Android for $800 or less currently.To get these very same features I have to pay more than 1K to get them.
Have you seen how Android manufacturers are evolving their designs? And Apple is asking me to pay $969 for the same design for the fourth time in a row and to get their real new iPhone 8 with the brand new design I gotta pay more than 1k
If this were Jobs era I can guarantee the iPhone Edition would be the iPhone 8. But in the face of probable declining revenues they are milking the existing customers as much as they can.
Galaxy S5 (2014)
Galaxy S6 Edge (2015)
Galaxy S7 Edge (design didnt change much)
Galaxy S8 (2017)
Now for the iPhone
iPhone 6 (2014)
iPhone 6s (2015)
iPhone 7 (2016)
Literally this is the same old dated design rehashed 3 times already
Apple did not charge a premium for those features you are talking about.Apple charged a hefty premium for the features I mentioned. And the features I mentioned have a tremendous impact on the user experience rather those small functionality updates you mentioned which is exactly why Apple kept those features on a higher tier model
Everything you mentioned is downright pathetic when you compare the change in experience you get from migrating from an 750P LCD display with huge bezels to an curved edge 2K OLED with no bezels.
And I never said iPhone doesnt have unique features but the point I am making is that when the changes they are making to the premium iPhone are standard on Android, they should be standard on iOS. There is nothing unique about what Apple did here for the price they are quoting. These are all standard Android flagship features. Heck 90% of what the iPhone 8 is about is already there on the S7 Edge and thats with expandable sotrage to boot
The user experience of a customer using an iPhone 7s will be completely different from a customer using the iPhone Edition which is unacceptable because the user experience the Edition owner is enjoying isnt worth more than $900 tops with 128GB storage
A newer CPU,more RAM,removal of Antenna bands, and waterproofing and 3DT. This is Apple's progress in 3 years. Now compare that with their Android competition and I could write a whole page on it
I guess I'm the only one that believes Apple will deviate this year from tradition. Apple tends to drop little hints with their gradual changes. For example, the home button moving away from being physical. That clues us in on a future home button either underneath the display or via a gesture bar.
My clues for the all-glass iPhone 7S is the current glossy back iPhone 7, and the rumor that all iPhones will get wireless charging this year, which would require an all glass redesign. I just can't imagine Apple thinks they can compete with a three year old design going into the fourth year. I know I constantly say that Apple is on a different time table and they can virtually get away with anything, but I just don't think they believe an internal upgrade-only 7S can compete to the degree they want it to. Especially if they're introducing a third and higher/more expensive tier, which really shafts the 7S. Most people will be buying the 7S series.
Will anything else change for the 7S series? Probably not. The other big changes will be saved for the iPhone Edition.
But you heard it hear sort of first! I'm betting the 7S will be all glass for wireless charging.
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I agree with you but I think they will offer different models with different features and price points.
I think they will offer a 7s that will be basically the same as the current version iphone 7 but will incremental internal upgrades. This gives them a couple of advantages. One it gives them a lower price point that a lot of apologist will will brag about and Apple can make the margins they are used to making.
They they will have the premium model line with all the new features we have heard about. They will charge a very premium price for this line and it will maybe have the OLED displays and FP reader on screen and wireless charging.
Can't the 2016 iPhone 7 be the lower price point model? That's what they do each year.
But you're right -- if they hold to tradition, then the 7S and Plus will just be internal updates and maybe better camera tech. I just hope this isn't the case.
I hope it isnt either....
But What i feel they will do is offer the 7s as for the everyday iphone buyer. It will have incremental upgrades. Apple will have normal pricing for this line.
Then have the premium "iPhone Edition" or some name differential as their line with the rumored technology upgrades we have heard about.
This will let them keep their profits margins we all know they love and have different price points. They can point to the 7s line and the lower price as the entry iphone line and the iphone edition as their premium line with pricing to match.
I went back to an iPhone 7 plus after the Note 7 fiasco and am fairly happy. Although I think I went backwards in terms of both hardware and OS going with Apple, I also feel more secure in what they do with my information and privacy. I am definitely salivating at what is coming down the pipe for Android, but I don't think it's enough to entice me back. At this point the ONLY thing I think would entice me to give up my privacy again would be a true foldable phone.
Speaking of the iPhone "Edition"... https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/10/iphone-8-renders-photos/
This could be our best look yet at what to expect from the iPhone 8 [Gallery]
I know these are just renders, but shouldn't it be smaller than the G6 and S8? The rumors of the iPhone Edition is that it's closer in size to the smaller iPhone.
Also, if Apple really plans to have 3D scanning or whatever that was rumored earlier, there will be a lot more sensors on the front.
This could be our best look yet at what to expect from the iPhone 8 [Gallery]
I know these are just renders, but shouldn't it be smaller than the G6 and S8? The rumors of the iPhone Edition is that it's closer in size to the smaller iPhone.
Also, if Apple really plans to have 3D scanning or whatever that was rumored earlier, there will be a lot more sensors on the front.
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I am a big iphone fan. I have used an iphone more than any other phone the past two years.
That changed with the Pixel XL. I use it more than any other phone because of the blend of software and hardware. Google really nailed the user experience with the Pixel. It is not perfect by any means..... But it is more than the sum of it's parts for me.
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I think it is funny to remember how so many Apple fans made fun of the curved displays from Samsung. Now Apple is rumored to copy the design lead Samsung has brought to smartphones with curved displays and wireless charging. Features a lot of Apple fans here on MR has said are useless.Speaking of the iPhone "Edition"... https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/10/iphone-8-renders-photos/
This could be our best look yet at what to expect from the iPhone 8 [Gallery]
I place less of a value on screens than I do about how the phone fits into my digital life. It seems you place more value on a raw list of features that make sense specifically to you. The premium Apple charges is worth it to me for the support, stability and longevity of its devices.
Adding an existing chip into a phone is not apples way. The premium is for support and longevity. I'm still waiting for android to support across the board 3dt and other "unique" Apple features that were first in android and then removed.
Your list doesn't include the ground breaking soc designs that shames the competition, plus other features.
By the same token all android phones are the same really nothing unique in them and they have been like that for years, just some incremental improvements and copycat designs starting with what sharp did with it's bezels. If I were Samsung, I'd be afraid of OPPO, 90% of the phone at half the price.
The experience of apple will prevail in every phone it produces.
Yep. There's no point in arguing with those folks. As I've said before, some will simply never understand nor appreciate certain features until it comes to Apple and their iPhones. And that's fine. They want to stay for their reasons and can wait until those features come to them. We all know Apple can operate on a different time table.
As for copying, that's also an outdated argument (in both directions). For example, if this is how the iPhone Edition ends up looking like, one can easily point the finger and say, look who's copying who on design now, but we've outgrown that point. Just as I'm sure we can still point to Samsung or Google for copying and emulating Apple on various things. We're at a time and place where everyone is effectively copying everyone else because the standards are changing. That's a good thing.
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I am not talking opinions here. I am stating facts that Apple is charging a hefty premium on features Android has had for years and giving an ancient 7S model as a consolation. Your personal usecases has nothing to do with it
And anyways Apple is currently charging standard flagship prices. I am talking about the premium on the iPhone Edition
But we are not talking who copied who. It's already been accepted that companies copy each other all the time . The Sharp is a bad example because phone manufacturers were already reducing bezel size before the Aquos. Heck the iPhone Edition is a complete ripoff of the Android ecosystem. It's such a blatant copy that I would have believed it's something Samsung used to do with Apple in the past
Not denying the A10 is fast but is it wort the premium? One Plus 3 is like 90% as fast at half the cost
Samsung is the only manufacturer making money on Android. Forget Oppo. Google got scared of Samsung's dominance in the Android space which is the Pixel was created. If Oppo is anything like Xiaomi only a matter of time before their engine sputters out
You have Android to thank for OLED,Wireless charging, Iris scanners etc and the notion that these are incremental is just laughable as even Apple doesn't think they are incremental considering the premium they place on them
No doubt about it but the experience on an iPhone Edition will be miles different than the 7S and the 7S Plus is not a cheap phone to begin with
No you state an opinion not facts, Apple charges the same price as Samsung and has more features and a better ecosystem.
Prices haven't been announced.
Actually the entire android ecosystem is a blatant ripoff of what came before it using that logic.
By last quarters revenue seems people or customers think it's worth it.
Except for last quarter when they lost billions.
Wrong at one point and not worth going through the others. YOU have Kodak to thank for oled.
It will be all Apple.
Speaking of the iPhone "Edition"... https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/10/iphone-8-renders-photos/
This could be our best look yet at what to expect from the iPhone 8 [Gallery]
I know these are just renders, but shouldn't it be smaller than the G6 and S8? The rumors of the iPhone Edition is that it's closer in size to the smaller iPhone.
Also, if Apple really plans to have 3D scanning or whatever that was rumored earlier, there will be a lot more sensors on the front.
Stunning! If that's the design then take my money, and take it over the S8 any day of the week. My only caveat is what they will do with that functional bar/area at the bottom. If you look at where the FP sensor is conceived and assume that's the height of the functional bar, that's freakin HUGE, maybe even larger than current iphones physical bezel/chin. I may not mind it so much in day to day use, but every time I wanted to full screen a video I'd be disappointed. But I'm giving Apple the benefit of the doubt and holding off on judgement until we see what the truth is.
I've honestly always been ok if Apple just reduced the side bezels to near nothing, reduced the top bezel as much as they could, but kept that bottom bezel to house the fp sensor, so it may not affect me as much. It still would be superior to that really weird fp sensor placement Samsung has that makes me cringe every time I see it.