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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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As comparison the 5.8in S8 will have more display area than X 5.8in. How is that giving more space?
I completely understand how the notch would bother people. I, for instance really dislike the curved edges on the Galaxy models but there are obviously millions of people who don’t feel like I do.
I just find that doesn’t the notch doesn’t bother me very much at all. And as far as quoted measurement of display, agree that the 5.8” number isn’t fully accurate. To a lesser degree, I feel you could say the same thing about Samsung’s displays as I find the portion at the edges far less usable, so thr S8’s 5.8” would be less as well. I just am not hung up on a number, more so the user experience of having more display in a smaller overall package vs. the Plus models. I’ll never be someone whose decision to buy is impacted by one display having a measurement that’s a few mm different vs another.
Well if the s8 had a notch it would have more space compare to itself, wouldn’t it?
The s8 already has a top bezel, if Samsung shrunk the bezel to a notch it would free up more display around the top bezel, wouldn’t it?
I didn’t get to take it outside the store. The real max brightness on 7 Plus and X kicks in only when taken outside. Besides in Apple’s store the lighting makes any iPhone display look good. Displaymate crowned it the best display ever but it didn’t seem much different to my iPhone 7 screen in the store. It looked about the same to me
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Yes. This is fairly obvious. What Apple decided to do was the smart thing. There are only 3 things you can do
1. No bezel of any type which means hardware (physical components) is buried under screen. This is ideal but not possible yet.
2. Have a bezel that spans the width of the phone. Even though only certain parts of the bezel would house physical components you have a strip all the way across.
3. Put all physical components as close as possible in the middle of the bezel. Whatever space is not used add useable screen so that you can have more screen than having a strip. This is what Apple did and I am glad.
I see all these Android and anti notch people complaining about #3 instead of #1, but what they realize is that because #1 is not possible it was #2 or #3. I'll take #3 every time
I think the issue is 5.8” on the X is not the same as the 5.8” on the Galaxy S8.
Traditional display measurements and comparisons are based upon the assumption that the display itself is a full rectangle. The X and Essential phone require a re-thinking of this type of display measurement.
Traditional display measurements and comparisons are based upon the assumption that the display itself is a full rectangle. The X and Essential phone require a re-thinking of this type of display measurement.
I agree because when you get a measurement listed it 99% of the time means corner to corner with a rectangle shape. In this instance you do lose a portion of the screen, but IMO Apple can't change the way they measure screens by putting actual square footage (inches) as it would throw everyone off.
This Verge article explains the geometry of it all. It comes down to the aspect ration and measuring display area from now on and not display size with different aspect ratios.
https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/3/30/15120824/screen-aspect-ratio-mathematics-galaxy-s8-lg-g6
Surface area would be a better measurement but you’re right in that it likely won’t ever happen.
The display of the iPhone 8 is actually 5.85 inches.
5.8 for the display and .5 for the ears.
The difference is the aspect ratio.
Oh..You are talking about that kind space.
Well, apple made the decision with an ugly notch cut out that sacrifices screen area and introduces usage issues. But X still got a worse screen body ratio and a wider and heavier phone than the S8.
Personally I think it is the mother of dumb ideas to go with a screen notch cut out.
So less useable screen was a better choice? SMH. Either the ears were bezel or useable screen. I'll take useable screen every time.
That’s not true. Directly from Apple’s website:
The 5.85” measurement is what the measurement would be if the corners weren’t rounded, that’s all.
And in their own diagram, they’re clearly including the ‘ears’ in their measurement.
Wanna know why? Cause we obsess and argue over the specs, watch tech blog videos OCDing on the displays, etc but in real life we wouldn't notice any of it.
The 5.85 number is the measurement of the screen with the ears and notch in a traditional rectangular shape.
It’s 5.8 without the notch or ears.
Brightness wise or quality? Because from having both right now I can tell you the X is clearer and has deeper colors.
If you compare the s8 to the iPhone X , you can plainly see the iPhone X has a larger screen.
The iPhone X is wider, it doesn’t have the bottom lip, and it’s top bezel is flanked with more display on both sides.
The 5.85 number is the measurement of the screen with the ears and notch in a traditional rectangular shape.
It’s 5.8 without the notch or ears.
You are saying the notch is just 0.05 in. You realised how small is that?
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If you compare the s8 to the iPhone X , you can plainly see the iPhone X has a larger screen.
The iPhone X is wider, it doesn’t have the bottom lip, and it’s top bezel is flanked with more display on both sides.
Those phones are not shown side by side. Physically S8 is a little taller but your picture shows S8 is shorter.
That’s what Apple is saying.
You can see for yourself
iPhone X display is defiantly larger than the s8.