He is intentionally keeping it on iOS 10 because of iOS 11?
Also it’s slower than iOS 8 and 9?
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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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Also it’s slower than iOS 8 and 9?
From a standard text based message 160 characters or less, SMS is fine. Over 160 and it's usually a jumbled mess. Unless it's same carrier to same carrier then a message over 160 characters is fine. Where they are also losing out is when they receive photos/videos from Android users or when they are in group messages with Android users. Also, iMessage is proprietary, I think you mean the Messages app is what knows to send it as SMS or MMS.
Because iMessage is useable only on Apple devices, that's why I dislike it. I guess I don't want it to "die" per se, but I want everybody to have a good messaging experience regardless of the phone they choose.
I've tried numerous messaging apps with iOS friends of mine and they don't like them. Or the feedback I hear from them is they don't want to install another app or try another app because they like the Messaging app. They then complain to me about SMS/MMS. It then results in them messaging me less than they did before. I almost feel forced to use an iPhone just for messaging. I believe @GrumpyMom had a similar experience to this.
Okay, so don’t use iMessage. You should definitely adopt whatever technology suits your style. I happen to like it and now with Apple Pay cash I can send money as needed to family members instead of checks. I wonder how Venmo and PayPal are feeling about Apple Pay cash.
Hes not intentionally keeping it on IOS 10. He does not know about versions.
I guess he saw the update notification for IOS 10, but did not do it for IOS 11 yet.
Apps just take a while to open, thats the main complaint.
Sorry, I should probably clarify I like iMessage, I just don't like that it's only useable by Apple users. I just need a change from mostly using iPhones/iOS since 2008 until now. With that change I'm dealing with the annoyances of messaging on Android. iMessage is great for all of those reasons you've mentioned plus all of the other features it has.
But again - at the point where SMS no longer suffices, iMessage simply becomes one more messaging app. What makes it unique is that it integrates SMS so iPhone users don't need two separate apps. If non iOS users want that experience, there is a solution.
This isn't a valid complaint. It's not Apple's fault that they created a device specific app that's extraordinarily popular.
The Messages app supports iMessage, SMS and MMS. I don't believe it's the iMessage protocol that handles that. Also, if Apple released an iMessages app on Android, wouldn't that benefit Apple users as well? Now their conversations could be over iMessage which is much better than SMS/MMS.
I'm not sure what you mean that it's not a valid complaint, could you please elaborate on that? I'm just discussing my opinion and my experiences.
Seriously? Why would Apple release imessage for Android so that now you could just buy an Android phone and experience the benefit of something Apple provides without having to purchase an Apple phone?
They probably will never. I'm just stating that it would also benefit Apple users as well.
I tried...again to switch to the Android device. I used an S8+ for 3 weeks, without touching my iPhone.
I wanted to give it another chance, but I ran into the same thing that most run into: iMessage and Facetime. At least 98% of the people I text/chat with have an iPhone. Everyone would get annoyed when I tell them download WhatsApp/Duo/Skype, etc to video chat. Plus, I got numerous complaints about the dreaded "green bubbles." Lol. It's weird how Android devices are not socially accepted among certain groups.
Apple would be a complete fool if iMessage/Facetime ended up on Android. That's their bread and butter, and why most people prefer an iPhone over Android devices.
I wanted to give it another chance, but I ran into the same thing that most run into: iMessage and Facetime. At least 98% of the people I text/chat with have an iPhone. Everyone would get annoyed when I tell them download WhatsApp/Duo/Skype, etc to video chat. Plus, I got numerous complaints about the dreaded "green bubbles." Lol. It's weird how Android devices are not socially accepted among certain groups.
Apple would be a complete fool if iMessage/Facetime ended up on Android. That's their bread and butter, and why most people prefer an iPhone over Android devices.
Exactly what I seem to be going through! And yes, I know there's no chance Apple will, but it would be nice if they did.
Sounds like you great a great try! I have a circle of friends that all use iPhones and they would NOT install anything different to text on. App integration of imessage and Facetime is a huge benefit for Apple users
No. I had a Samsung Galaxy before I got my iPhone and I’m not going back. I like the support from Apple and I like how the iPhone performs. I’m also not a big fan of the direction Google is going, so I try to avoid them as much as I can.
The older I get the less patience I have for computers that don’t work right. I don’t want to have to babysit my phone. I get enough of that from the Windows computers at work.
The older I get the less patience I have for computers that don’t work right. I don’t want to have to babysit my phone. I get enough of that from the Windows computers at work.
It is pointless owning android, regardless of it's value and abillity if you can't use it as you need.
Stay with Iphone. It is the best imessage and facetime platform
Really? Do you know what 4x4 MIMO/256-QAM is?
No point in having a cool dialer or awesome iMessage if your phone can even keep freaking service!
I do like iOS but right now, I've witnessed a friend with the iPhone X not have service where I do with my LG V30. Good thing they don't live out there and only visit family/friends like I do when I go out there.
Maps, well I use Google maps on either device. So technically you can uninstall Apple maps. It's a hassle sometimes if you just want to click on an address and go because it'll tell you Apple maps is uninstalled. I just look up addresses in Google, it opens Google maps if you click on directions. So that's a workaround.
I like Samsung browser. It's about the same as Safari for me. Though I use the browser less than some people I know.
Some apps run better on iOS than Android, I'll give them that. Like Facebook. That invasive sack of dung app that I can't turn notification badges off for on Android. Apple makes sure these apps stay in line with your settings.
Overall they are both good experiences but right now my daily driver is Android. I will see what Intel does or if Apple and Qualcomm kiss and make up.
Hey thanks for sharing a situation that happens to about 1 in a million or less. I know probably around 100 people who have an iphone. Very very few use a Samsung or Android phone. Probably 5 or so.
All of them use Mail with IOS.
All of them use IOS Dialer
Most of them use imessage (in fact all of the adults do). A few of the kids use snapchat also but do use imessage with their parents
All of them use safari
Most of them use IOS music and videos for music on the actual unit. They use spotify for streaming music.
Most of the basic users use maps. A few more advanced users use Google Maps. The really advanced users use Waze.
Most use weather app. About 40% use the weather channel app.
All of them use Facetime for video chatting
All of them use photos for managing photos on their phone.
The ones that use calendar (not many) use calendar in IOS.
Almost all of them use the stock calculator
As I said, most IOS users use the stock apps that come with the phone. They add on their social media apps, a few other apps, and some games.
My experience with Android was horrible. Never again for the near future.
If it's 1 in a million that either makes me incredibly lucky or unlucky. Either way, nobody wants to see "No service" no matter what device they have right?
Sorry you had a bad experience with Android, I've had quite a few with Apple products.
In the end, it really doesn't matter what we think. Everyone is going to have different opinions. Mine is just simply that iOS and Android are both good but Apple using Intel knowing they'll have to cripple Qualcomm is reminiscent of the Samsung vs TSMC battery issue on the 6s.
The component lottery.
I'll see next year what happens.
Erm.
The Mail app doesn't support push for Gmail properly, thus everyone i know uses the Gmail app on IOS for Gmail accounts.
Also IOS doesn't allow you to change default apps (quite how IOS users put up with this is beyond me tbh) so using anything other than stock apps where provided in IOS is a major PITA.
Uh you just contradicted yourself. In your first sentence you said everyone you know uses GMail app and then you said IOS doesn't allow you to change default apps.
Having said that every person I know uses mail with multiple addresses attached to them. yahoo, hotmail, gmail, icloud, exchange address for work, etc. I have no issues with my gmail account nor does any family member.
If you don't think the majority of IOS users use mail you are simply wrong. Even if they have a gmail app they likley use mail for other addresses.
There is nothing that makes a person use mail. They could use the gmail app. They could use outlook. They could use the yahoo mail app. Every single person I know uses mail in some aspect. Even those with exchange accounts and even those with gmail accounts.
Apple knows that the majority of IOS users are going to use mail, dialer, imessage, facetime, safari, photos, icloud, music, etc. This is their target market and they do an exceptional job making all of those apps easy to use and seamless.
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They are talking about using the iOS default app with gmail. It doesn't push properly so a lot of people have to download a secondary app for their gmail. I think that basically means that it doesn't "Just work".
I miss the days when Gmail supported ActiveSync on iPhones for e-mail, that was nice!
LOL! I'm a she!
No but I totally agree. Thankfully I use manual anyways to save battery but if email was important, I would have to use another app. Which if you don't have a lot of space on the iPhone, isn't the stand alone gmail app kind of big? It used to be...