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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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Wow. iOS 11 looks like a dumpster fire. There's some decent items for the iPhone, but mostly it doesn't seem to really improve on anything. in fairness I'll wait till the full laundry list is available but at a glance it looks like this is going to be the most meager update possible.
There was a ton of chatter on the big websites, saying iOS 11 expected to get a refreshed new UI.
But what they showed is a major disappointment. Same old tired looks since iOS 7, still ZERO customization. Unbelievable, you can't even drag and place an app icon anywhere you'd like on the home screen. WTF, it's 2017, not 2008 anymore. You can't drag and drop a PDF file or something from the PC to a plugged in iPhone, I mean come on. Setting of default apps PLEASE.
Really sucks the Jailbreak scene is pretty much dead, at least with JB you can do a lot of these things that should be stock.
But what they showed is a major disappointment. Same old tired looks since iOS 7, still ZERO customization. Unbelievable, you can't even drag and place an app icon anywhere you'd like on the home screen. WTF, it's 2017, not 2008 anymore. You can't drag and drop a PDF file or something from the PC to a plugged in iPhone, I mean come on. Setting of default apps PLEASE.
Really sucks the Jailbreak scene is pretty much dead, at least with JB you can do a lot of these things that should be stock.
I agree 110% with this article, on what we'd like to see in iOS 11;
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/25/macrumors-forums-ios-11-wishlist/
None of that ended up being a reality
And still no basic theme engine, like Samsung does, people like to have different options to make their phone more unique to their style, let me change the color of the back ground or the icons.
What about Dark mode ?
Wow WTF Apple ?
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/25/macrumors-forums-ios-11-wishlist/
None of that ended up being a reality
And still no basic theme engine, like Samsung does, people like to have different options to make their phone more unique to their style, let me change the color of the back ground or the icons.
What about Dark mode ?
Wow WTF Apple ?
It's basically a similar kind of wishlist that is there for any iOS/macOS/etc. version pretty much every year, with some items changing or being removed or added. Nothing really new or surprising there.I agree 110% with this article, on what we'd like to see in iOS 11;
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/25/macrumors-forums-ios-11-wishlist/
None of that ended up being a reality
And still no basic theme engine, like Samsung does, people like to have different options to make their phone more unique to their style, let me change the color of the back ground or the icons.
What about Dark mode ?
Wow WTF Apple ?
All I asked for...were updated mail and cal apps. Literally any Android OEM, and native Google versions, of those apps leave Apple's in the dust.
Also, can I have split screen apps on an iPhone? I don't use it often but when I need it, it's a killer feature. Jesus Christ. But hey, at least I can now send more versions of stickers in iMessage.
Why did I even get my hopes up that Apple would finally make the much needed overhaul and update happen. They never do.
And no stable JB for the iPhone 7 line either If the Jailbreak scene was alive and well, I'd be happy still with my 7 Plus. But JB is dead.
Oh well, I sold my 7 Plus and went back to stock Android with Nexus 6P. But was hoping the big iOS 11 refresh was going to happen. Oh well...bring on the Pixel XL 2 now.
And no stable JB for the iPhone 7 line either
If the Jailbreak scene was alive and well, I'd be happy still with my 7 Plus. But JB is dead. Oh well, I sold my 7 Plus and went back to stock Android with Nexus 6P. But was hoping the big iOS 11 refresh was going to happen. Oh well...bring on the Pixel XL 2 now.
Funny thing is, with a JB the iPhone is so much better, Split screen, drag and drop files, dark mode, themes, heads up notification for the Phone, and a laundry list of nice features that make the iPhone so much better. But unfortunately the JB is dead. And hoping for Apple to finally incorporate all these JB is a wasted dream, never happening.
Seems like Apple doesn't see split screen usage on smaller screens as a good enough experience in their eyes for most of their typical users, which is likely why they haven't offered it for the iPhones, as is the case with various features over the years.
You know, you are absolutely correct. But in this industry there are no hard and fast answers and you have to go with your gut. Apple fought very hard (and successfully) not to give up info to the FBI, and I'm not saying I'm going to commit a crime but you never know when that kind of adherence to not put in a backdoor to circumvent your encryption will become a positive.
Also as stated Apple makes its money from hardware sales, and then app sales. I don't doubt they make some money off advertising, but nothing like Google who's business basically is virtually all advertising revenue. What scares me is just how deep Google gets, like tracking your credit card activity and tracking where and how you drive, really I'm the only one who is a bit freaked out at stuff like this?
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Yeah but you are now right inside of conspiracy theory territory. Who killed JFK? Does the gov know about aliens? Does Trump wear a toupee? It just seems like that fight was so public, I don't think it would have had anywhere near the exposure if Apple was planning on complying with them.
Just so strange, that supposedly there's this radical new iPhone 8 coming in a few months, edge to edge screen, very futuristic all new design, but it will still be running an OS that looks like iOS 7 from years ago, with the ugly and dated app icons, and just an overall old looking OS. It will look funny running on this all new hardware with old looking software, styled from 2013.
Why did I even get my hopes up that Apple would finally make the much needed overhaul and update happen. They never do.
And no stable JB for the iPhone 7 line either
Oh well, I sold my 7 Plus and went back to stock Android with Nexus 6P. But was hoping the big iOS 11 refresh was going to happen. Oh well...bring on the Pixel XL 2 now.
You know there is a VERY stable iPhone 7 jailbreak, there has been for a while but in the past couple of weeks a new and much improved one called extra recipe was released. I've been running it and it's rock solid. Now I have the choice to "upgrade" to an iPhone 8 with the pitifully primitive OS, or keep my pitifully primitive huge bezels but keep what iOS should have been 3 years ago.
But isn't that for the iPhone 7 that's still lucky to be on 10.1.1 only ? LOL that's crazy to think people are still on 10.1.1 all this time later, and only recently they finally have a stable version for it ? Talk about limiting the user base. How bout come out with a stable JB for the most current iOS version ?
The thing is, I am not an iPhone hater, I really enjoyed my iPhone 7 Plus, and think with a JB it's the best smartphone out there. But Apple should just incorporate the top ten most used JB tweaks and make those part of stock iOS 11.
iOS 11 is such a disappointment as is HomePod. I say this every year but I really think this is the year I go android for good.
The one revision I thought iOS 10 desperately needed overhauling for iOS 11, was the Notification system, and just the way it works in general. I heard that over and over a lot this year, people we're not huge fans of iOS 10's notification system, and that it could and should be improved / revised.
Nothing about that today...crickets
Nothing about that today...crickets
Yep still needs 10.1.1, although IMO there has been zilch in any updates since then (besides security updates which I'm the first to admit I'm going without).
But yeah the tweaks on JB are awesome, and the developers are so small Apple could probably buy all of them for VERY cheap, pretty much all of them are just one dude in his basement writing apps. Dark theme, multi windows, dark control center/notifications with customization, placing icons anywhere you like on the desktop, multiple icons in the dock, resizing icons, folders, etc. That's just scratching the surface, and that's with just a tiny little jailbreak community.
While iOS 11 does really seem to deliver on the iPad, it's disappointing on the iPhone. However, there's this one slide in the keynote that I'd really like to know more about: https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/05/apple-unveils-ios-11-for-iphone-and-ipad/#jp-carousel-485404
NFC reader mode? Are they finally allowing developer access to NFC? I hope there will be some more information about that before the OnePlus 5 comes out. After that it could be too late for me
NFC reader mode? Are they finally allowing developer access to NFC? I hope there will be some more information about that before the OnePlus 5 comes out. After that it could be too late for me
I still find it very odd, that this brand new Star Trek looking super cool futuristic iPhone 8 will come out this Fall, but turn it on, and it will be "pew pew pew" totally dated looking OS from 2013, and same old app icons form years ago.
It would be like buying a brand new 2018 C7 Corvette Z06, and then open the doors and has the interior from C4 from the 80's.
If any time iOS needed an overhaul, it's now with the iPhone 8.
It would be like buying a brand new 2018 C7 Corvette Z06, and then open the doors and has the interior from C4 from the 80's.
If any time iOS needed an overhaul, it's now with the iPhone 8.
I had high hopes for today's wwdc. Really awesome hardware, plus official eGPU support for the Macs is really exciting. Also Apple seems to be more serious about gaming.
In terms of iOS... I'm still looking at an interface that came out 4 years ago when Apple introduced iOS 7.
One of you guys brought up a really good point (sorry I'm on a phone), that with all this speculation on the revolutionary hardware of the iPhone 8, it's going to go to waste with iOS 11. Totally agree. Oh well. Maybe next year we will be able to set default apps and they will update this piece of crap mail app to have better exchange support.
I'm at least grateful that developers actively update their apps on the iPhone, and iPhones are more consistent in getting iOS updates vs Android. You practically have to buy a new Samsung phone to get the latest version of android every year, but hey everyone here does that anyway
In terms of iOS... I'm still looking at an interface that came out 4 years ago when Apple introduced iOS 7.
One of you guys brought up a really good point (sorry I'm on a phone), that with all this speculation on the revolutionary hardware of the iPhone 8, it's going to go to waste with iOS 11. Totally agree. Oh well. Maybe next year we will be able to set default apps and they will update this piece of crap mail app to have better exchange support.
I'm at least grateful that developers actively update their apps on the iPhone, and iPhones are more consistent in getting iOS updates vs Android. You practically have to buy a new Samsung phone to get the latest version of android every year, but hey everyone here does that anyway
I don't think consumers care much about the OS, or if they did they'd already have switched to iOS. A typical consumer probably doesn't really do much beyond phone, messaging and pictures. Most of the research on apps even shows that beyond a very small number of core apps, consumers really don't buy much or venture out from those apps. Apple knows their market and knows they can get away with charging a premium.
To me, iOS feels like child's play on the iPhone. iPad bridged the gap between it and Mac.
Unless the WWDC sessions reveal some hidden iOS 11 gems, I think I'm definitely going back to Android now. The iPhone 7 wasn't a problem with the aftermarket Bluetooth unit I had in my previous car, but unfortunately that car is no more as a delivery truck driver wasn't paying attention and switched lanes right into my left back door, sending us spinning in front of the truck at 80 km/h and ultimately ending up in the railings between the lanes. Luckily no one was hurt (my whole family was in the car, so apparently Renault does something right regarding safety), but I needed a new car and the one I got supports Bluetooth only for calls, but doesn't allow media playback. I'm not in the mood for swapping the player straight away and as the car has an Aux port, I'll be using that for in-car media playback for now. For that I need a headphone jack as my current workplace is easier to reach with public transport, so whenever I drive it's usually a longer distance, and in those situations I prefer being able to charge my phone AND listen to music/podcasts at the same time.
In addition, when I had the OnePlus 3T I really got into the habit of paying with my phone. With the iPhone and Apple Pay still being a no-show for the foreseeable future and beyond in Finland, I want to go for something that works for mobile payments now.
So bring on the OnePlus 5. Should the OnePlus 5 disappoint for whatever reason, there's luckily lots of alternatives to choose from. Of course there's still the update situation that's still much better on iOS, but the functional gap is getting too wide in Android's favor where I live.
In addition, when I had the OnePlus 3T I really got into the habit of paying with my phone. With the iPhone and Apple Pay still being a no-show for the foreseeable future and beyond in Finland, I want to go for something that works for mobile payments now.
So bring on the OnePlus 5. Should the OnePlus 5 disappoint for whatever reason, there's luckily lots of alternatives to choose from. Of course there's still the update situation that's still much better on iOS, but the functional gap is getting too wide in Android's favor where I live.
After spending a solid week with the S8, I can safely say that Android N + Samsung Software puts iOS to shame. The S8 software is easy to use, smooth, consistent, elegant, and highly customizable. This is an advanced mobile operating system.
And in terms of hardware...
The battery life is absolutely outstanding. It just lasts. Great standby time, too.
The camera gives stunning results from just simple point and shoot -- to the point where on a recent long weekend road trip with friends, people basically said to use my camera for our group photos.
I'm also a believer of this new screen aspect ratio -- I loved handling this phone whether it was one or two handed. The form factor is out of this world comfortable and you still get a really large, beautiful, very usable screen. And the edge panels are so subtle and slight. The waterfall effect is smaller than ever now. You're just left with a really gorgeous screen.
Another small thing worth mentioning is how well Samsung implemented a pressure-sensitive home button. It's simple and effective, used to just wake the device anytime the screen is off or to take you home from any app even if you don't see the home button there. I like that it's not used for anything else superfluous like on iPhone/iOS, for areas where software has already provided the better solution on Android. No need for an entire screen of pressure-sensitivity that is both complex and expensive. Just well done here.
Also, there has been a lot of concern about the FPS location. Sure, it's not ideal, but after not even a day of owning it, I was reaching for it naturally. I also use facial unlock and that thing is shockingly good. It's both fast and reliable the vast majority of the time.
There will be a day when iPhone owners -- the ones who get the iPhone 8, anyway -- will come to understand and appreciate some of these features and benefits. Things like wireless charging, facial unlock, or even just the simple benefits of a more bezel-less design.
Until then, Samsung has once again created the most worry-free smartphone. This is the phone that just works. This is the phone that has the world's most advanced mobile OS.
And in terms of hardware...
The battery life is absolutely outstanding. It just lasts. Great standby time, too.
The camera gives stunning results from just simple point and shoot -- to the point where on a recent long weekend road trip with friends, people basically said to use my camera for our group photos.
I'm also a believer of this new screen aspect ratio -- I loved handling this phone whether it was one or two handed. The form factor is out of this world comfortable and you still get a really large, beautiful, very usable screen. And the edge panels are so subtle and slight. The waterfall effect is smaller than ever now. You're just left with a really gorgeous screen.
Another small thing worth mentioning is how well Samsung implemented a pressure-sensitive home button. It's simple and effective, used to just wake the device anytime the screen is off or to take you home from any app even if you don't see the home button there. I like that it's not used for anything else superfluous like on iPhone/iOS, for areas where software has already provided the better solution on Android. No need for an entire screen of pressure-sensitivity that is both complex and expensive. Just well done here.
Also, there has been a lot of concern about the FPS location. Sure, it's not ideal, but after not even a day of owning it, I was reaching for it naturally. I also use facial unlock and that thing is shockingly good. It's both fast and reliable the vast majority of the time.
There will be a day when iPhone owners -- the ones who get the iPhone 8, anyway -- will come to understand and appreciate some of these features and benefits. Things like wireless charging, facial unlock, or even just the simple benefits of a more bezel-less design.
Until then, Samsung has once again created the most worry-free smartphone. This is the phone that just works. This is the phone that has the world's most advanced mobile OS.
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