Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[Roadstar]

The next iOS in wwdc is usually an indicator of what's to come on the next generation iPhones. Any features you guys are waiting in that would make you switch back to iPhone?

Or do you have any ultimatums that if something in iOS that doesn't change, would make you switch to android?

I'm currently back on the iPhone after selling my OnePlus 3T, but I think I'll be switching back to Android unless WWDC really delivers. For me to stay with the iPhone they'd need to make existing features such as Apple Pay more broadly available and preferably implement at least some of the changes listed in the previous post. Default apps would be one of my favorites.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'm currently back on the iPhone after selling my OnePlus 3T, but I think I'll be switching back to Android unless WWDC really delivers. For me to stay with the iPhone they'd need to make existing features such as Apple Pay more broadly available and preferably implement at least some of the changes listed in the previous post. Default apps would be one of my favorites.

It's down to retailers to implement Apple Pay as the feature is already available on the device. Thankfully it's in a lot of places in the UK and I use it daily through my watch. I'm surprised other countries are not pushing it out so much?

 

[Tig Bitties]

Setting of default apps is a must for iOS 11. As is the mentioned Phone/Dialer revision, that is desperately needed. And also a overhaul how iOS does notifications, because iOS 10 blows donkey dick on how it handles notifications. And basic themes of at least icon packs for God sake. And allow the widget panels to be put on other screens and not just the left panel only.

 

[Fille84]

Move icons wherever I want to put them. I would also like to see the ability to set custom notification sound for every app, or at least change the default tri-tone, that is used by almost every app, to whatever sound I want.

 

[Roadstar]

It's down to retailers to implement Apple Pay as the feature is already available on the device. Thankfully it's in a lot of places in the UK and I use it daily through my watch. I'm surprised other countries are not pushing it out so much?

No it's not. Almost all retailers here take NFC payments here, but on the iPhone it's no use since we can't register any Finnish cards as contracts between Apple and Finnish banks are missing. At this point I'm quite confident that the contracts won't ever be made since it's such a long time since Apple Pay's debut. So it seems like the only way to utilize my phone's NFC chip is to get an Android.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

No it's not. Almost all retailers here take NFC payments here, but on the iPhone it's no use since we can't register any Finnish cards as contracts between Apple and Finnish banks are missing. At this point I'm quite confident that the contracts won't ever be made since it's such a long time since Apple Pay's debut. So it seems like the only way to utilize my phone's NFC chip is to get an Android.

For your country then I would get what is available. I wasn't trying to rub it in but Apple Pay is common where I live and I've been using it daily for nearly 2 years now. Supermarkets, coffee shops, petrol stations, etc mostly accept it. I like that I can use it in my AW as it makes paying a whole lot faster.

If anything I think Android Pay is less common as we've had the same issues you've had with banks. I'm not entirely sure whether Android Pay is fully available in the UK but could be wrong? It's certainly not widely advertised.

 

[Roadstar]

For your country then I would get what is available. I wasn't trying to rub it in but Apple Pay is common where I live and I've been using it daily for nearly 2 years now. Supermarkets, coffee shops, petrol stations, etc mostly accept it. I like that I can use it in my AW as it makes paying a whole lot faster.

If anything I think Android Pay is less common as we've had the same issues you've had with banks. I'm not entirely sure whether Android Pay is fully available in the UK but could be wrong? It's certainly not widely advertised.

Well we have neither Apple Pay nor Android Pay here, but many banks offer NFC payments in their own apps. I've been happy with my bank's app and paid with its Android version almost everywhere. They'd offer payments also in their iOS app if Apple only allowed NFC access to developers, but as that's obviously not going to happen and Apple doesn't seem to reach an agreement with the local banks, NFC seems to be an Android-only party here. It's a pity as I'd like to see what it's like to pay not only with my iPhone but my Apple Watch as well, but obviously I'd need a card from another country for that. Too bad that we still pay the full price plus some Euro penalty for our iPhones and Apple Watches and get only a subset of the features they offer.

 

[William Reachers]

I already switched to android a few months ago, and I enjoy the freedom of getting everything free, I don't have to pay for music, apps or anything else, Play store is so good. I do miss the faster response I used to get from my iPhone, and the way the IOS reacted, differently than the android, but they have both pluses and minuses.
I am going to give it more though this autumn when I am thinking of changing my phone once more!
Any pros and cons that you guys think are important?

 

[nviz22]

I'm currently back on the iPhone after selling my OnePlus 3T, but I think I'll be switching back to Android unless WWDC really delivers. For me to stay with the iPhone they'd need to make existing features such as Apple Pay more broadly available and preferably implement at least some of the changes listed in the previous post. Default apps would be one of my favorites.

Which one? 6S? No plans to go with the OP5?

 

[Roadstar]

Which one? 6S? No plans to go with the OP5?

7, the regular size. OP5 is definitely a possibility especially if they keep dual-SIM and improve the camera. Waterproofing would seal the deal.

 

[tbayrgs]

My frustrations with iOS aren't at level that would drive me to switch. Yes, I'd love some of the most commonly mentioned, i.e. default app selection, ability to place icons anywhere on the home screen, customizable Control Center, ability to arrange notifications by app, swipe style typing on the native iOS, to name a few. That being said, I live without them now and don't find myself craving to have them in my day to day use so while I'd be disappointed if Apple didn't make some of these changes, it wouldn't cause me to leave the platform.

As far as any other missing capabilities vs. Android--I don't miss them now and nothing that I've seen in Android O will pull me away either. There are already too many elements of the iOS/Apple ecosystem that I simply prefer to leave now.

 

[widgeteer]

My frustrations with iOS aren't at level that would drive me to switch. Yes, I'd love some of the most commonly mentioned, i.e. default app selection, ability to place icons anywhere on the home screen, customizable Control Center, ability to arrange notifications by app, swipe style typing on the native iOS, to name a few. That being said, I live without them now and don't find myself craving to have them in my day to day use so while I'd be disappointed if Apple didn't make some of these changes, it wouldn't cause me to leave the platform.

As far as any other missing capabilities vs. Android--I miss them now nothing that I've seen in Android O will pull me away either. There are already too many elements of the iOS/Apple ecosystem that I prefer to leave now.

I find that most of the "wants" for iOS in these threads boil down to "make it work the same as Android".

 

[spinedoc77]

The next iOS in wwdc is usually an indicator of what's to come on the next generation iPhones. Any features you guys are waiting in that would make you switch back to iPhone?

Or do you have any ultimatums that if something in iOS that doesn't change, would make you switch to android?

Not having a dark mode may just get to me and make me switch. Right now I'm content because I'm jailbroken and can use Eclipse 4 and Noctis to give me a pretty darn nice dark theme, but my jailbreak is out the window when I buy a new iPhone.

I just don't get it, I honestly don't get it. Even on the lowest brightness the phone is incredibly bright in the darkness with its white on off white theme, I feel like I'm the only one who uses the phone in the dark or at night.

On a good note Hangouts finally uses Callkit, so I can answer and dial from the stock app any Hangouts calls, which really takes care of my google voice needs and allows me to not have to use the GV app anymore. Still not a perfect solution, but definitely an improvement.
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Split-screen multi-tasking is a huge must. Apple doesn't do enough to take advantage of a bigger screen. A file system helps. Night mode, better widgets, better power saving modes, customizable control center toggles, enhanced Siri, multiple user accounts, Group FaceTime, Touch ID to lock apps, a UI overhaul, default apps.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/25/macrumors-forums-ios-11-wishlist/

That list is pretty similar to what I want. Apple probably won't deliver, especially since it's the 10th anniversary of the software.

Split screen would be awesome! I have split screen, a file system, night mode, customization control center toggles, touch id for locking apps, default apps and many UI improvements but had to jailbreak to get them. Hopefully Apple takes notes of these and rips off some of the features for iOS11, there are really some great jailbreak apps/functions out there that illustrate how lacking iOS10 is in many ways.

 

[webslinger85]

I find that most of the "wants" for iOS in these threads boil down to "make it work the same as Android".

I'm really noticing that myself

 

[tbayrgs]

Split screen would be awesome! I have split screen, a file system, night mode, customization control center toggles, touch id for locking apps, default apps and many UI improvements but had to jailbreak to get them. Hopefully Apple takes notes of these and rips off some of the features for iOS11, there are really some great jailbreak apps/functions out there that illustrate how lacking iOS10 is in many ways.

So everything you've described is more readily available on Android. With so many available Android hardware options that could more easily offer these features, why still use an iPhone? What aspects of an iPhone do so valuable that it's worth dealing with the hassle of jailbreaking to unlock functionality you could get on just about any Android handset?
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I find that most of the "wants" for iOS in these threads boil down to "make it work the same as Android".

And I get that...there are some great features and functionality I like on Android as well. What I don't understand, as often seem to be expressed on his subforum, is if you already have all the functionality you desire on your Android smartphone, why ever even consider an iPhone? Most of these desires would just bring parity in functionality between the two platforms--don't see why one would still switch if the iPhone is now just an equal to the phone(s) you've already been using for ages.

 

[kkh786]

For your country then I would get what is available. I wasn't trying to rub it in but Apple Pay is common where I live and I've been using it daily for nearly 2 years now. Supermarkets, coffee shops, petrol stations, etc mostly accept it. I like that I can use it in my AW as it makes paying a whole lot faster.

If anything I think Android Pay is less common as we've had the same issues you've had with banks. I'm not entirely sure whether Android Pay is fully available in the UK but could be wrong? It's certainly not widely advertised.

Android Pay is widely available in the UK (also advertised widely).
I'm yet to find a contactless terminal that doesn't take Android Pay (Apple Pay is usually compatible where ever Android Pay is).
For once, we British have embraced a new technology (NFC payments) much more widely than other countries.

 

[widgeteer]

So everything you've described is more readily available on Android. With so many available Android hardware options that could more easily offer these features, why still use an iPhone? What aspects of an iPhone do so valuable that it's worth dealing with the hassle of jailbreaking to unlock functionality you could get on just about any Android handset?
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And I get that...there are some great features and functionality I like on Android as well. What I don't understand, as often seem to be expressed on his subforum, is if you already have all the functionality you desire on your Android smartphone, why ever even consider an iPhone? Most of these desires would just bring parity in functionality between the two platforms--don't see why one would still switch if the iPhone is now just an equal to the phone(s) you've already been using for ages.

This. I don't get it. Years ago the idea was "If only I could get Android software on Apple hardware." Well, now Android hardware is just as good, maybe better in some cases.

It's probably tied to those who are legit locked into the Apple ecosystem.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Android Pay is widely available in the UK (also advertised widely).
I'm yet to find a contactless terminal that doesn't take Android Pay (Apple Pay is usually compatible where ever Android Pay is).
For once, we British have embraced a new technology (NFC payments) much more widely than other countries.

Everywhere that Apple pay is accepted android pay will also be accepted. I think the only issue is that some of the banks have been slow to adopt it. I remember Barclay's dragged their heels in over Apple pay but eventually adopted it about a year after it launched. I think they still do not support android pay and by the looks of things i doubt they ever will as they have made their own mobile payments system. I bank with Nationwide which supports Apple, android and Samsung pay.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Android Pay is widely available in the UK (also advertised widely).
I'm yet to find a contactless terminal that doesn't take Android Pay (Apple Pay is usually compatible where ever Android Pay is).
For once, we British have embraced a new technology (NFC payments) much more widely than other countries.

I'll look out for the signs, I genuinely hadn't noticed. I know it was adopted later than Apple Pay but as I don't use it I guess I didn't find out if it had been introduced.

 

[spinedoc77]

So everything you've described is more readily available on Android. With so many available Android hardware options that could more easily offer these features, why still use an iPhone? What aspects of an iPhone do so valuable that it's worth dealing with the hassle of jailbreaking to unlock functionality you could get on just about any Android handset?
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And I get that...there are some great features and functionality I like on Android as well. What I don't understand, as often seem to be expressed on his subforum, is if you already have all the functionality you desire on your Android smartphone, why ever even consider an iPhone? Most of these desires would just bring parity in functionality between the two platforms--don't see why one would still switch if the iPhone is now just an equal to the phone(s) you've already been using for ages.

I use an iPhone for a few reasons. Firstly I trust them much more with my information and privacy than google. Apple has proven they won't just hand my information over, and their business model doesn't depend on sucking every last iota of information about me.

Also my wife and daughter use FaceTime. I also have a couple Apple watches and feel Apple does it better than android wear Those are few of the main reasons although I have other reasons.

 

[burgman]

I use an iPhone for a few reasons. Firstly I trust them much more with my information and privacy than google. Apple has proven they won't just hand my information over, and their business model doesn't depend on sucking every last iota of information about me.

Also my wife and daughter use FaceTime. I also have a couple Apple watches and feel Apple does it better than android wear Those are few of the main reasons although I have other reasons.

Problem is Apple has done a magnificent job of marketing that business model of building trust, but in reality the public hasn't any proof or knowledge of what goes on behind the curtain in any tech company. In one respect Google is far more upfront about what they collect and individual control over it. Where is Apple's Personal data report pages and about me.google.com? Apple.com/privacy is a joke in comparison with no controls just marketing.

 

[widgeteer]

Problem is Apple has done a magnificent job of marketing that business model of building trust, but in reality the public hasn't any proof or knowledge of what goes on behind the curtain in any tech company. In one respect Google is far more upfront about what they collect and individual control over it. Where is Apple's Personal data report pages and about me.google.com? Apple.com/privacy is a joke in comparison with no controls just marketing.

You mean other than a very public and aggressive fight with the United States Government over allowing a backdoor into iOS so they can access a user's information in a criminal case?

 

[HiDEF]

You mean other than a very public and aggressive fight with the United States Government over allowing a backdoor into iOS so they can access a user's information in a criminal case?

In all fairness, the gov finally admitted they have the capability getting into a iOS device if needed. I believe Snowden concurred.

 

[widgeteer]

In all fairness, the gov finally admitted they have the capability getting into a iOS device if needed. I believe Snowden concurred.

Maybe but the point is Apple fought tooth and nail. I definitely trust Apple with my info more than most other tech companies.

Of course as I type that please keep in mind I use Google services for just about everything, SOOOO...clearly *I* personally don't care that much about my own info.

 

[burgman]

Maybe but the point is Apple fought tooth and nail. I definitely trust Apple with my info more than most other tech companies.

Of course as I type that please keep in mind I use Google services for just about everything, SOOOO...clearly *I* personally don't care that much about my own info.

Says the press releases, unless you were in the room when it happened. Can you understand the difference ?many seem to have lost that ability. Confirmation bias is very insidious.