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Are you going to switch?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 24.8%
  • No, staying with iPhone

    Votes: 175 47.2%
  • No, I'll go with another platform

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Considering it

    Votes: 101 27.2%

  • Total voters
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The-Real-Deal82

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No, but aesthetically that's the initial attraction, is it not? That's what draws somebody in to a device based on how it conforms to their hand, color, design and it's overall appeal to the user. Over time, that euphoria will wear off and ultimately comes down to the experience one achieves from actually using the phone. But then again, Some never use cases and the phone is aesthetically pleasing to them from the first day It was purchased. And I'm taking into account that all experiences will vary.

If it's your first iPhone of course. If you are upgrading and are in the iPhone cycle then I don't think the looks really matter. The brand is strong and it's a cool device to own in its own right. My next phone will be an iPhone and I know that before I see what it looks like.
 
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mib1800

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If it's your first iPhone of course. If you are upgrading and are in the iPhone cycle then I don't think the looks really matter. The brand is strong and it's a cool device to own in its own right. My next phone will be an iPhone and I know that before I see what it looks like.

That's why Apple will unlikely to falter given it can garner this kind of extreme loyalty.
 

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If it's your first iPhone of course. If you are upgrading and are in the iPhone cycle then I don't think the looks really matter. The brand is strong and it's a cool device to own in its own right. My next phone will be an iPhone and I know that before I see what it looks like.

I slightly disagree, based on how many individuals are looking for a new form factor/physical changes that will ultimately draw them into a new device, regardless if it is their first iPhone or not which many are fatigued with the current design and aesthetically are looking for something refreshed. (Which I'm basing on hear-say.)

You can be in the upgrade iPhone cycle and not have any idea what the next iPhone purportedly will resemble. That's like saying you already know what the iPhone 8 will resemble, when in all reality, we only know based on speculation and unverified rumors.

If you're taking into account the last three years of the iPhone 6/6S/7, then yes, those have been primarily the same physical form factor and I don't primarily see any excitement in those phones, as they are redundant, even though I appreciate the consistency and iOS.
 

C DM

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If you want to go against what is generally accepted as "normal", then you can say it is subjective for you. But the general consensus seems to be that without a camera hump is a better design than one with. If you want to be a deviant, then the onus is on you to prove the general consensus is wrong.
Ah, and there go the appearances of "normal" and "deviant".
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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That's why Apple will unlikely to falter given it can garner this kind of extreme loyalty.
It's not like they are producing poor quality product design though is it? I get it, you have a deep dislike for Apple as a company and have a very critical eye on everything they do. That is as obvious as the day is blue from seeing your posts here. This means you set the bar higher in order to be impressed and make allowances for brands you favour.

I can't think of an iPhone that looked ugly or poorly put together? I don't think Apple are lazy in their approach to design or letting consumers down either. A little raised camera on the back of an iPhone that stands around 0.7mm tall is so insignificant IMO. It's not like you are going to buy it in order to stress about it. This is about belittling users of other devices in order to amplify your consumer buying choices as superior which evidently makes you feel better.
 

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It's not like they are producing poor quality product design though is it? I get it, you have a deep dislike for Apple as a company and have a very critical eye on everything they do. That is as obvious as the day is blue from seeing your posts here. This means you set the bar higher in order to be impressed and make allowances for brands you favour.

I can't think of an iPhone that looked ugly or poorly put together? I don't think Apple are lazy in their approach to design or letting consumers down either. A little raised camera on the back of an iPhone that stands around 0.7mm tall is so insignificant IMO. It's not like you are going to buy it in order to stress about it. This is about belittling users of other devices in order to amplify your consumer buying choices as superior which evidently makes you feel better.

You guys are really over reacting. I am not belittling anyone. My main point is without the camera hump design looks nicer. But some of you just can't take this and need to jump and defend the camera hump design is as good or better since the iPhone 8 leaks show a camera hump. It is just a phone for chrissake.
 
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C DM

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You guys are really over reacting. I am not belittling anyone. My main point is without the camera hump design looks nicer. But some of you just can't take this and need to jump and defend the camera hump design is as good or better since the iPhone 8 leaks show a camera hump. It is just a phone for chrissake.
And yet the basic and fundamental simplicity of something that is an opinion somehow can't be accepted as being subjective.
 
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You guys are really over reacting. I am not belittling anyone. My main point is without the camera hump design looks nicer. But some of you just can't take this and need to jump and defend the camera hump design is as good or better since the iPhone 8 leaks show a camera hump. It is just a phone for chrissake.

I wouldn't allow this discussion to get you to flustered. Your opinion matters just as others do on here.

I understand what you're saying also. The iPhone is what one wants to make of it. Some have an issue with the protruding camera and others don't. I don't think it makes it a poor design, but having it flush seems to be more appealing and less obtrusive. I have never had an issue with the camera bump, but others argue why have it in existence. Either way, like you said, it's just a phone and it's important to remember it's nothing more and it's upgraded annually.
 

Geert76

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If I do wanna sell a product to the consumers, and I would like to make sure people are coming back next year for another buy, there's no way I can come with a similar (almost 1:1 copy) product. Let alone 3 years in a row.
This is something Apple can easily do, the majority of Apples loyal fanbase (or whoever you like to call it ;) ) will buy that iPhone anyway.
This thread allready proves that.

Why should Apple be really make big (real!) chances in hard- and software if they perfectly know that people are coming back, no matter what?
I truly like all of my Apple devices, but you dont have to be highly educated to understand how Apple operates (with releasing new products) the last few years with Tim Cook at the top of the company.
But I think a lot of companies can only be jealous how super easy Apple keeps their customers without much efforts at all.

I see a lot of people defending all critics people have as soons as Apple comes in play, that's their right ofcourse
 

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If I do wanna sell a product to the consumers, and I would like to make sure people are coming back next year for another buy, there's no way I can come with a similar (almost 1:1 copy) product. Let alone 3 years in a row.
This is something Apple can easily do, the majority of Apples loyal fanbase (or whoever you like to call it ;) ) will buy that iPhone anyway.
This thread allready proves that.

Why should Apple be really make big (real!) chances in hard- and software if they perfectly know that people are coming back, no matter what?
I truly like all of my Apple devices, but you dont have to be highly educated to understand how Apple operates (with releasing new products) the last few years with Tim Cook at the top of the company.
But I think a lot of companies can only be jealous how super easy Apple keeps their customers without much efforts at all.

I see a lot of people defending all critics people have as soons as Apple comes in play, that's their right ofcourse

Apples ecosystem plays a large role in that. Especially if you have quite a few of their products in your household or for work use. But I agree, the three-year-old design is starting to get stagnant. I will be honest, I will never leave iOS/iPhone. But I am more than ready enough for the change where the current design certainly works, but any physical changes would be appreciated just to keep things refreshed and not allowing the competition to continue to make changes on there behalf that others are gravitating towards.

I have said it many times on this forum before, I think this year will be the change for the iPhone. I can't say that it will be for all three models, but at least for the larger rumored all OLED model. And then 2018, I see physical changes across the entire lineup, including the SE.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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You guys are really over reacting. I am not belittling anyone. My main point is without the camera hump design looks nicer. But some of you just can't take this and need to jump and defend the camera hump design is as good or better since the iPhone 8 leaks show a camera hump. It is just a phone for chrissake.

I'm not defending the camera bump, I repeat, I don't care whether it's there or not. I'm sure the phone looks nice without it too. I don't have a strong opinion either way as it's insignificant. It's not going to affect the user experience and if the S8 is a better looking phone aesthetically, then great.

You're right, it's just a phone for Christ sake.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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If I do wanna sell a product to the consumers, and I would like to make sure people are coming back next year for another buy, there's no way I can come with a similar (almost 1:1 copy) product. Let alone 3 years in a row.
This is something Apple can easily do, the majority of Apples loyal fanbase (or whoever you like to call it ;) ) will buy that iPhone anyway.
This thread allready proves that.

Why should Apple be really make big (real!) chances in hard- and software if they perfectly know that people are coming back, no matter what?
I truly like all of my Apple devices, but you dont have to be highly educated to understand how Apple operates (with releasing new products) the last few years with Tim Cook at the top of the company.
But I think a lot of companies can only be jealous how super easy Apple keeps their customers without much efforts at all.

I see a lot of people defending all critics people have as soons as Apple comes in play, that's their right ofcourse

Apple have been very clever over the years. They have developed a cult status and will always be seen as the smartphone that gave birth to 'this era' of touchscreen communication. Just as Coca-Cola are a stand out brand, you have Apple too. They can't afford to get complacent though as the competition are already ahead in terms of pushing hardware, but Apple still lead in terms of software IMO. This does mean they sell no matter what.
 
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Geert76

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Apples ecosystem plays a large role in that.

jup, and that's the reason Apple can do whatever they want with their new iPhone every year. They hardly have to do anything (besides pricing the iPhone to the max) new to their iPhone.
I truly think the eco system is their Holy Grail. It's their way out to simply release a same same (hard- and software wise) iPhone year after year after year ;)

Where other brands ''fight'' to get new costumers, Apple can simply lean back with their beloved eco system
 

The-Real-Deal82

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jup, and that's the reason Apple can do whatever they want with their new iPhone every year. They hardly have to do anything (besides pricing the iPhone to the max) new to their iPhone.
I truly think the eco system is their Holy Grail. It's their way out to simply release a same same (hard- and software wise) iPhone year after year after year ;)

Where other brands ''fight'' to get new costumers, Apple can simply lean back with their beloved eco system

Their greed in the UK with pricing was the main reason I snubbed the iPhone 7 at my last upgrade. The way pricing is going I will likely buy older devices from now on.
 

I7guy

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You guys are really over reacting. I am not belittling anyone. My main point is without the camera hump design looks nicer. But some of you just can't take this and need to jump and defend the camera hump design is as good or better since the iPhone 8 leaks show a camera hump. It is just a phone for chrissake.
If you want to go against what is generally accepted as "normal",..
Sorry to burst your bubble. I dont live in the apple subliminal influence sphere
Nobody over-reacted. Whether you like the i7 design or not, or like the s8 design or not. Labeling and generalizing this mythical group of people in an attempt to prove a point, instead proves nothing.

You're opinion is your opinion.
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jup, and that's the reason Apple can do whatever they want with their new iPhone every year. They hardly have to do anything (besides pricing the iPhone to the max) new to their iPhone.
I truly think the eco system is their Holy Grail. It's their way out to simply release a same same (hard- and software wise) iPhone year after year after year ;)

Where other brands ''fight'' to get new costumers, Apple can simply lean back with their beloved eco system
Even if apple "leans" back and has a "beloved" ecosystem, you have to hand it them. But that's they way not to give apple any credit for producing a product that it seems a lot of people want, maybe not everybody, but certainly enough.
 

spinedoc77

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I'm having difficulty with why anyone would care one iota about the camera hump. I rarely ever see the back of my iPhone. For me the hump means the phone is that much thinner, I'd be pissed if they made it thicker simply to make the camera flush.

But it just seems like such a tiny complaint. It doesn't affect it functionally in the least, and I've certainly never had any one come up to me and ask if that was a hump in my camera or if I was happy to see them.
 

Fille84

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The camera hump on the iPhone is ugly, the wierd aspect ratio of the S8 is ugly but only one effects use.
And now the rumors says that the iPhone 8 will get this "ugly ratio". A protruding camera and the new screen ratio doesn't sound like a phone for you man.
 
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spinedoc77

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And now the rumors says that the iPhone 8 will get this "ugly ratio". A protruding camera and the new screen ratio doesn't sound like a phone for you man.

It's a shame the iPhone will follow along with the crappy aspect ratio of the S8. Couple the crappy aspect ration and the loss of screen due to the function bar and I'll bet we end up with more like 4.7" display.
 
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Fille84

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Am I the only one who is starting to like the new aspect ratio better than the 16:9?
As long as everything is adapted Im totally ok with it. In youtube for example you can fill up the whole screen but then its cropped, so I guess people have to start shoot their videos in 18:9 first of all.
 

webslinger85

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I switched from iPhone last year, and haven't looked back.

It's all about personal opinion and use, why do you guys keep acting like sales and your own personal opinions should be taken as a basis to own a phone?

It's 2017, get over it and let people use what they wanna use
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Am I the only one who is starting to like the new aspect ratio better than the 16:9?

I'm fine with it.

Remember when the iPhone switched to a 4 inch display and apps were jacked up for awhile? This is no different. Most of my apps already work with the ratio, so it's a non issue to me
 
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