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Are you going to switch?

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tbayrgs

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More iPhone 8 rumors:

A size comparison from a case maker.

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How do regular size vs Plus users feel about this?

Is one model enough to blend both worlds happily?

As I prefer larger displays, I'm not excited by the prospects of the new bezel-free iPhone. Rumors indicate the display will be about 5.8" but that only about 5.2" will be left after the dedicated functional area at the bottom. After having 5.5"+ displays on my phones for the past few years, I don't want to go smaller. In fact, I'd love 6"+. So if the rumors play out as true, I'll be sticking with my 7+.
 

epicrayban

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Im all for it as long as the screen is atleast 5.5.

As I prefer larger displays, I'm not excited by the prospects of the new bezel-free iPhone. Rumors indicate the display will be about 5.8" but that only about 5.2" will be left after the dedicated functional area at the bottom. After having 5.5"+ displays on my phones for the past few years, I don't want to go smaller. In fact, I'd love 6"+. So if the rumors play out as true, I'll be sticking with my 7+.

You guys bring up a good points about the screen size. More specifically, the usable screen size.

I'm personally excited for the potentials of a function bar, but you two have reasonable concerns about the 8's usable screen being too small. It's a bit unfortunate that Apple is alienating their own user base in a way. If there's only one size iPhone 8, there is no longer a choice for consumers in Apple's top flagship device.

It then makes sense for Apple to keep the 7S and 7S Plus models around another year as "second tier" flagships (though they certainly won't advertise it that way). Maybe in 2018, we'll see two proper iPhone flagship models again that offer a larger screen option.

BTW, I really don't think the iPhone 8 will be called "iPhone 8." I'm starting to believe the "Edition" rumor more, because what in the world will Apple call 2018 iPhones if the 8 is already taken? They can't use 8 again. Would it be 8S then? And we'd treat this as a year that Apple sort of released two-generation iPhones? Can get confusing. "iPhone Edition" makes sense, then Apple could release in 2018 an "iPhone 8" and "8 Plus" that has the flagship features of the iPhone Edition.
 
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Zaft

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You guys bring up a good points about the screen size. More specifically, the usable screen size.

I'm personally excited for the potentials of a function bar, but you two have reasonable concerns about the 8's usable screen being too small. It's a bit unfortunate that Apple is alienating their own user base in a way. If there's only one size iPhone 8, there is no longer a choice for consumers in Apple's top flagship device.

It then makes sense for Apple to keep the 7S and 7S Plus models around another year as "second tier" flagships (though they certainly won't advertise it that way). Maybe in 2018, we'll see two proper iPhone flagship models again that offer a larger screen.

BTW, I really don't think the iPhone 8 will be called "iPhone 8." I'm starting to believe the "Edition" rumor more, because what in the world will Apple call 2018 iPhones if the 8 is already taken? They can't use 8 again. Would it be 8S then? And we'd treat this as a year that Apple sort of released two-generation iPhones? Can get confusing. "iPhone Edition" makes sense, then Apple could release in 2018 an "iPhone 8" and "8 Plus" that has the flagship features of the iPhone Edition.
I think the only reason the 7S is there is because apple simply cant make enough of the "edition", So apple has to sell something new.
Then in 2018 apple would have solved the supply issues and sell two OLED iPhones.
 
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I think the only reason the 7S is there is because apple simply cant make enough of the "edition", So apple has to sell something new.
Then in 2018 apple would have solved the supply issues and sell two OLED iPhones.
Not everybody will want to pony up for the rumored iPhone "x" what the rumored price is. Of course, there will be some who are opening their wallets.

But I hope this thing actually looks like an iPhone and also has some bezels.
 

epicrayban

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I think the only reason the 7S is there is because apple simply cant make enough of the "edition", So apple has to sell something new.
Then in 2018 apple would have solved the supply issues and sell two OLED iPhones.

I wouldn't be surprised if supply constraints played a big factor. I'm sure there are many factors involved, including competition and timing -- the 10th anniversary happens to land on a "7S" generation.

Either way, I'm sure Apple will market and sell all three options as still premium flagships. The iPhone 7S, 7S Plus, and the limited and special iPhone Edition.
 
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Zaft

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I wouldn't be surprised if supply constraints played a big factor. I'm sure there are many factors involved, including competition and timing -- the 10th anniversary happens to land on a "7S" generation.

Either way, I'm sure Apple will market and sell all three options as still premium flagships. The iPhone 7S, 7S Plus, and the limited and special iPhone Edition.
I can definitely imagine Phil Schiller saying "These are the best iPhones yet, but I asked our team if they could do something special".
"Footage of iPhone edition displayed".
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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As I prefer larger displays, I'm not excited by the prospects of the new bezel-free iPhone. Rumors indicate the display will be about 5.8" but that only about 5.2" will be left after the dedicated functional area at the bottom. After having 5.5"+ displays on my phones for the past few years, I don't want to go smaller. In fact, I'd love 6"+. So if the rumors play out as true, I'll be sticking with my 7+.
How do you carry it around? Something that big wouldn't fit in my pocket, I'd have to either carry it in my hand or leave it behind. You obviously find a way, I'm just curious. :)
 

Zaft

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How do you carry it around? Something that big wouldn't fit in my pocket, I'd have to either carry it in my hand or leave it behind. You obviously find a way, I'm just curious. :)
Well for me its simply a trade off that I accept. It sticks out a bit but it fits fine inside the pocket.
 

tbayrgs

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How do you carry it around? Something that big wouldn't fit in my pocket, I'd have to either carry it in my hand or leave it behind. You obviously find a way, I'm just curious. :)

An iPhone with current size bezels and a 6" display would be ungainly, yes. But if you took that same form factor and pushed the display out closer to the frame, you could quite easily fit a 6"+ display.

Any I guess I just wear looser clothing as I have no problem easily carrying my 7+ in my pocket.
 

mib1800

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I don't need to make excuses, I'm not designing it, nor do I care about it as much as you it seems.

I don't really care much either. All I am saying is that it is not a "fine" design like you put it. You would rather not have that hump there isn't it? Just admit it :)

P.S If that big hump is there, you can throw out any chance the iPhone 8 have of beating the s8 in look.
 
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As I prefer larger displays, I'm not excited by the prospects of the new bezel-free iPhone. Rumors indicate the display will be about 5.8" but that only about 5.2" will be left after the dedicated functional area at the bottom. After having 5.5"+ displays on my phones for the past few years, I don't want to go smaller. In fact, I'd love 6"+. So if the rumors play out as true, I'll be sticking with my 7+.

Yep I'm bummed about downgrading from a 7+ to a 5.2" display. The downgrade might be even worse than that if Apple uses 18:9, which means 5.2" really won't be 5.2".
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I don't really care much either. All I am saying is that it is not a "fine" design like you put it. You would rather not have that hump there isn't it? Just admit it :)

P.S If that big hump is there, you can throw out any chance the iPhone 8 have of beating the s8 in look.

I have no idea what the advances of it being there or not being there are to be honest? The phone gets put in a case like every other and I leave the futile points scoring to people like you. Your last sentence suggests you really do care about this, like people sit around examining the minor details of what a mobile phone looks like in daily use. Have fun.
 

Radon87000

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How do you carry it around? Something that big wouldn't fit in my pocket, I'd have to either carry it in my hand or leave it behind. You obviously find a way, I'm just curious. :)

I always carry my Plus in my hand. I tried keeping it in my pocket but while opening the car door and trying to sit inside it always manages to slip out. Only way is to hold in hand and you get used to it after some time. Hopefully by eliminating bezels I can get the same screen size in the normal small iPhone form factor. Those bezels are probably the biggest in the industry topped only by the Pixel maybe
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I always carry my Plus in my hand. I tried keeping it in my pocket but while opening the car door and trying to sit inside it always manages to slip out. Only way is to hold in hand and you get used to it after some time. Hopefully by eliminating bezels I can get the same screen size in the normal small iPhone form factor. Those bezels are probably the biggest in the industry topped only by the Pixel maybe

I'd lose it as I'd put it down and walk away. I've used my bosses 6S+ and had to hold that but only around the factory so that's not as bad. It's just such a cumbersome size I just don't know how it's practical for personal use. I don't wear baggy clothes though. I'm young and skinny jeans are fashionable and have been for a few years now. My standard iPhone 6S can be a a bit snug, but it's not quite uncomfortable. It's probably why I see very few of the Plus models out and about.
 

I7guy

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I have no idea what the advances of it being there or not being there are to be honest? The phone gets put in a case like every other and I leave the futile points scoring to people like you. Your last sentence suggests you really do care about this, like people sit around examining the minor details of what a mobile phone looks like in daily use. Have fun.
It's nice to see something subjective as looks being promulgated as fact.o_O
 
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It's nice to see something subjective as looks being promulgated as fact.o_O

Beauty is in the eye of beholder and subjective. There is no baseline to start measuring from. Therefore, in your eyes I am pretty sure this is beautiful to you, my friend :p

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I7guy

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Sorry to burst your bubble. I dont live in the apple subliminal influence sphere, so unlike some of you I don't find the camera/battery hump thingy design as fine or beautiful. ;)
Bubble isn't burst, I don't live in the "file system just be better" virtual world like some of you.

It's gotten great reviews and works better than other "things of beauty ". Beauty is still subjective no matter what the spin.
 

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Bubble isn't burst, I don't live in the "file system just be better" virtual world like some of you.

You do realise you have just labeled everyone who is using a computer today. :p
All these people use the file-system for a long time and they don't find it deficient in anyway that they need to migrate to your so-called "superior" icloud or throw away the file-system.


It's gotten great reviews and works better than other "things of beauty ". Beauty is still subjective no matter what the spin.

Most Iphone 7 reviews I read criticized the the camera hump. The fact that you keep deflecting this general observations just show how distorted and bias your opinions are.
 

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You do realise you have just labeled everyone who is using a computer today. :p
All these people use the file-system for a long time and they don't find it deficient in anyway that they need to migrate to your so-called "superior" icloud or throw away the file-system.
Most Iphone 7 reviews I read criticized the the camera hump. The fact that you keep deflecting this general observations just show how distorted and bias your opinions are.
Placing labels in a pejorative manner with generalizations is the modus-operandi lately. No substance just sling it.

As far as your last comments this is where a dose reality comes in and not some ill-informed review. Starting with apples performance fiscal ytd. The internet is rife with opinions, bias and fallacious reasoning. Most not worth the cost to transmit the bits.

Guaranteed there will be a hump in the next rumored iPhone and no one will care except the talking heads.:) But let's not let reality get in the way of a great narrative.

And based on the topic thread there still isn't an android phone that would cause me to switch. (Judging from the poll results I'm not alone)
 
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Beauty is in the eye of beholder and subjective. There is no baseline to start measuring from. Therefore, in your eyes I am pretty sure this is beautiful to you, my friend :p

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And if it is, what does that show, that it's all indeed subjective as has been pointed out many times? Seems like just more and more self-evident proofs demonstrating the very opposite of the attempted implications.
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You do realise you have just labeled everyone who is using a computer today. :p
All these people use the file-system for a long time and they don't find it deficient in anyway that they need to migrate to your so-called "superior" icloud or throw away the file-system.




Most Iphone 7 reviews I read criticized the the camera hump. The fact that you keep deflecting this general observations just show how distorted and bias your opinions are.
And if many reviews criticize the salmon color of iPhone 5c, does that mean that that color is somehow objectively "incorrect"? Subjectivity can't be used to show that something is objective, logic simply doesn't work that way.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Sorry to burst your bubble. I dont live in the apple subliminal influence sphere, so unlike some of you I don't find the camera/battery hump thingy design as fine or beautiful. ;)
You need to understand that not everybody buys a mobile phone for the way it looks and studies the aesthetics intensively in order to enjoy using it. I don't and don't know many that do. When it's put in a case it's the screen and operating system that are the most visible anyway.
 
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You need to understand that not everybody buys a mobile phone for the way it looks and studies the aesthetics intensively in order to enjoy using it. I don't and don't know many that do. When it's put in a case it's the screen and operating system that are the most visible anyway.

No, but aesthetically that's the initial attraction, is it not? That's what draws somebody in to a device based on how it conforms to their hand, color, design and it's overall appeal to the user. Over time, that euphoria will wear off and ultimately comes down to the experience one achieves from actually using the phone. But then again, Some never use cases and the phone is aesthetically pleasing to them from the first day It was purchased. And I'm taking into account that all experiences will vary.
 

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And if it is, what does that show, that it's all indeed subjective as has been pointed out many times? Seems like just more and more self-evident proofs demonstrating the very opposite of the attempted implications.
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And if many reviews criticize the salmon color of iPhone 5c, does that mean that that color is somehow objectively "incorrect"? Subjectivity can't be used to show that something is objective, logic simply doesn't work that way.

If you want to go against what is generally accepted as "normal", then you can say it is subjective for you. But the general consensus seems to be that without a camera hump is a better design than one with. If you want to be a deviant, then the onus is on you to prove the general consensus is wrong.
 
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