God forbid OP ever takes their children to the beach or a pool!
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That's the picture of a woman wearing a red dress, doing nothing but smiling at the camera.
Nothing wrong with that picture.
If you think your kid shouldn't be exposed to such images, you'd better cut off the internet completely, as no amount of "baby internet" will ever be matching your "safety" requirements.
Also your kid should not have relationships with any human being other than you and your (carefully selected) family members and be locked inside the house 24/7 except for maybe the occasional trip to the local church (provided you cover his eyes during the whole trip).
Do all of this and your standards will be met. By the age of 18, your kid will have developed into a successful and well behaved alien.
Nothing wrong with that picture.
If you think your kid shouldn't be exposed to such images, you'd better cut off the internet completely, as no amount of "baby internet" will ever be matching your "safety" requirements.
Also your kid should not have relationships with any human being other than you and your (carefully selected) family members and be locked inside the house 24/7 except for maybe the occasional trip to the local church (provided you cover his eyes during the whole trip).
Do all of this and your standards will be met. By the age of 18, your kid will have developed into a successful and well behaved alien.
Nothing inappropriate there, imo. If anything, she is dressed in a Xmas spirit, like Santa’s business partner of sorts , so any healthy kid will most likely treat this image as such, don’t you think?
Women have breasts and every breast-fed child is perfectly aware of that phenomenon from day one of their lives. I guess you are more likely to create a neurosis in your child by trying to actively fence them from it, or anything else for that matter. This “censorship” can then sabotage your child’s trust in you, as a parent, on the long run. Allow your child to explore and question everything in life freely, encourage a free dialogue on any topic that interests them. Then they will grow up trusting you as a reliable guide till the end.
, so any healthy kid will most likely treat this image as such, don’t you think?Women have breasts and every breast-fed child is perfectly aware of that phenomenon from day one of their lives. I guess you are more likely to create a neurosis in your child by trying to actively fence them from it, or anything else for that matter. This “censorship” can then sabotage your child’s trust in you, as a parent, on the long run. Allow your child to explore and question everything in life freely, encourage a free dialogue on any topic that interests them. Then they will grow up trusting you as a reliable guide till the end.
Ever tried going for a walk on a hot summer day in a place with other people? Try it out, paying special attention to women dresses. You will be surprised!
I second this. I’ve been aware of Dolly Parton since I was a child. My mom being a huge fan. I’m just over 40 now and I can honestly say I’ve never viewed her as overtly sexual or porn-y.
The Guides image is fine IMO. I’ve seen ads in games for other games that are FAR more inappropriate than this.
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Yes they are, obviously. Much to learn you still have, young padawan.
Dolly Parton Once Revealed She Paid $1 Million for Her Famous Breasts
In a previous interview, Dolly Parton opened up about her breasts, sharing that she spent $1 million to have them look the way they do.
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My 9th grader does not have her own phone, but will probably get a flip phone in the next few months. My kids have iPods which are closely monitored with Screen Time and do not have internet access. They use them for games and music only.
Thankfully, my kids are in a religious school and this is considered normal. In fact, the school prohibits smartphones of any kind.
Unfortunately, what is considered normal today is very subjective. As a religious person, I am offended by what Apple and Amazon push towards my own phone. Legal? yes, but moral?
I recognize it is subjective but I just wish they’d keep the half naked pictures out of the ads they show.
As for my kids, we have an iMac, in a public space, they can use for internet access. They call their friends on a landline and somehow they are growing up without sex, violence or porn being shoved in their face.
Added Note: I am fully cognizant that because we are religious, this is considered normal. Kids growing up in a coed environment with TV, open internet and a frequent visitor to the cinema are going to have a vastly different upbringing; one that their parents may, or may not regret. My point is not to push my beliefs on anyone, but rather that parents should think about the environment they allow their children to grow up in and act accordingly.
At least that is buried a little further down the screen. I think the image is tame and this is the real world, the advertising is the issue.
What do you mean? We are talking about what's forced on the screen, not real life.Ever tried going for a walk on a hot summer day in a place with other people? Try it out, paying special attention to women dresses. You will be surprised!
Well, the OP was specifically complaining about a “skimpy low-cut red outfit” and if we pay attention to what women are wearing around us at this time of year, Christmas parties, etc., Dolly is fine. A child cannot live only “on the screen” and will be exposed to all of this and more, inevitably.
A minimal amount of visible cleavage and a woman with large breasts and now we’re worried about a child seeing it?
Man, don’t go outside anywhere outside the Middle East! What is this, the 1600s?
Man, don’t go outside anywhere outside the Middle East! What is this, the 1600s?
if the image offends someone that much, just press and hold on the Maps icon, click the red button then click “delete app”.
Nothing is being forced on anyone.
Almost every billboard featuring a woman is more sexualised than that photograph. I don’t know what country the OP is from but it’s surely not the USA otherwise he/she makes Ned Flanders look like a sinner.
Out of all the bad influences a kid may face, this image is not one of them. "And, by the way, they're real, and they're spectacular!" -- Seinfeld
Context matters. Of course OP meant that he was forced to experience certain features non-essential to the app once he decided to use the app. You are not "forced" to pay taxes either. You can go to jail.
Overreacting. It’s not as bad as you describe it. Her outfit and body do not seen sexualized, and as to her body, you do know she had quite a breast reduction performed?
That said, I just don’t see the connection between maps and Dolly Parton.
Too bad they couldn’t use Martin Millner (Rt. 66), or some other actor/actress conected with driving. Maybe a well known Baja or other endurance driver.
That said, I just don’t see the connection between maps and Dolly Parton.
Too bad they couldn’t use Martin Millner (Rt. 66), or some other actor/actress conected with driving. Maybe a well known Baja or other endurance driver.
Until they go off to college and or the workplace and overindulge in everything they were hidden from as a child.
And yes this happens. A LOT!
Nothing wrong with healthy restrictions and boundaries but if this photo is something you wouldn’t want your 9th grade (meaning 14-16 years old) Child seeing, I’ve got some bad news about the real world.
Also… not letting your teenager watch tv or go to the cinema or call with a mobile?
I mean not having free internet access I get, but it’s gonna be a shock when they move from 1997 to the 2020s the second they become an adult.
Oh and by the way, My point is not to push my beliefs on anyone, but rather that parents should think about the environment they allow their children to grow up in and act accordingly.
It’s a photo of Dolly Parton in a red dress. Hardly skimpy, and certainly not inappropriate. Why are you fixating on her breasts?
If this is porn, I’d hate to see what you watch on tv everyday. you need to relax a little bit, personally, because what is “sexy” about a 60 year old woman with Botox and plastic surgery in a mrs. Claus‘ costume? I also don’t think your 4 year old would be on Apple Maps, so there’s that 🤷🏾♂️
I am dismayed how many young parents use their phones and tablets as distracting devices for children as young as 2 years old--you see kids in shopping carts mesmerized by a screen while the parent(s) peruse the grocery or department store aisles. There has been a massive decrease in the cognitive abilities of school age students as well as an increase in the signs and symptoms of attention deficits over the years. There has also been a marked decrease in the physical fitness of the younger generations, decreased athletic skills, decreased outdoor activity, as well as decreased real life physical interactions (this started well before Covid).
Much of the blame can be laid at the feet of hand held electronic devices like smart phones, tablets as well as gaming consoles.
If one hasn't seen it, I highly recommend viewing "Social Dilemma" available on Netflix--it should put a pause on providing young kids with smart devices. For much deeper dive I recommend reading "The Shallows--What the Internet is Doing to Our Brains" by Nicholas Carr.
Not sure what the appropriate age would be for children to have smart phones or other electronic devices in an unsupervised environment, but I heard someone give an answer in a form of a question--"At what age to you want your child to have access to porn?"
I guess I am taken aback by the OP's concern not by the image but the fact that young kids are allowed to interact with electronic devices without supervision.
Dolly Parton in a Christmas outfit does not come close to the images and verbiage that kids find in parts of the internet, even with software or app guardrails.
Also, some of the material that young kids (starting at least in kindergarten) are exposed to in public school as part of the normal mandated curriculum would not be allowed in R rated movies (at least not now).
I have seen many women out in public with much more inappropriate revealing attire.
Much of the blame can be laid at the feet of hand held electronic devices like smart phones, tablets as well as gaming consoles.
If one hasn't seen it, I highly recommend viewing "Social Dilemma" available on Netflix--it should put a pause on providing young kids with smart devices. For much deeper dive I recommend reading "The Shallows--What the Internet is Doing to Our Brains" by Nicholas Carr.
Not sure what the appropriate age would be for children to have smart phones or other electronic devices in an unsupervised environment, but I heard someone give an answer in a form of a question--"At what age to you want your child to have access to porn?"
I guess I am taken aback by the OP's concern not by the image but the fact that young kids are allowed to interact with electronic devices without supervision.
Dolly Parton in a Christmas outfit does not come close to the images and verbiage that kids find in parts of the internet, even with software or app guardrails.
Also, some of the material that young kids (starting at least in kindergarten) are exposed to in public school as part of the normal mandated curriculum would not be allowed in R rated movies (at least not now).
I have seen many women out in public with much more inappropriate revealing attire.
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I agree with you about devices to a certain degree.
While both my kids did not get phones with active lines until much older, they have always had access to computers. I'm Gen-X, so a computer has been in one house or another since 1980 when I was 9-10. Additionally, my mother was a teacher and one of her classes was Computer Science. So just about every form of computer you could imagine came and went through our house over the years.
By the time I had kids old enough to use a keyboard there were multiple computers in my own house. My son got his first Mac when he was 5. An old iBook G3 with a broken Airport antenna. We'd go to Starbucks and I'd run an ethernet cable from my Mac to his and share internet. So he could go off to nickelodeon.com and play the games from the cable TV shows we allowed him to watch.
In 2012-2013 or so, both my kids were playing with an iPhone 3GS that had no cellular connection.
I trust my kids. That doesn't mean we (my wife and I) have never checked up or not had to enforce the rules. But for the most part my kids have been good. When my wife got back into school for her teaching degree, my son was able to help her with Google Docs because that was what they used in his high tech-oriented high school. He's 19 now and pursuing an IT degree. He prefers PC/Windows.
Having both Macs and PCs in the house has created 'bilingual' kids that are able to move between macOS and Windows with no difficulty. It's all second nature to them and as this stuff is just a natural part of regular life they aren't behind their peers.
When they have kids, IDK what they have planned. But they know that their parents (us) did not allow device play at the table or as something to substitute for dealing with actual human conversation.
Do you have data to support your assertions?
And what material in school is inappropriate?
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