Downgraded to iOS 8.4.1 and god, its so smooth

[Yun0]

It was the same with iOS 8 and will be the same with iOS 10 ... Every year the forum is stormed by whiners....
Every iOS iteration is worse than the previous, in their vision, especially regarding stuttering.

iOS 9 interface is very fluent...

no, its not true.

 

[Nomadski]

No need to be self-righteous. I'm simply pointing out that your experience does reflect everyone else's.

I wasn't being self righteous, just merely pointing out the same to you.

 

[bandofbrothers]

I think it's time for me to stop looking at these iOS 9 threads. I can't even count how many "there's so much lag" and "such a difference when downgrading from iOS 9". It's the same sh*t over and over and all it does is clog up my feed. We all know iOS 9 isn't the greatest and that some people have lag. If its such a problem, go ahead and downgrade to a previous OS and post in one of the other 50 threads stating the iOS 9 sucks. No need to start another one.

And I thought the Android forums were bad *smh*

Nothing wrong with a bit of light reading.

It's certainly interesting to read about the diversity going on

 

[Max(IT)]

Even Android users wouldn't stomach the lack of fluidity. People are just defending it for the sake of it now. It's pathetic.

It's not much to expect an OS to be as smooth as the previous release, on devices only a year old. I thought one of Apple's biggest selling points was long life devices.

What I found pathetic is the whining of people about non existent issues every single year...
Most of the time you find out they are installing iOS 9 on very old devices like iPad 3 or iPhone 4S.
On my iPad Air, surely not a new device by any means, iOS 9 is smooth like the previous release.

 

[C DM]

What I found pathetic is the whining of people about non existent issues every single year...
Most of the time you find out they are installing iOS 9 on very old devices like iPad 3 or iPhone 4S.
On my iPad Air, surely not a new device by any means, iOS 9 is smooth like the previous release.

To be fair there are some issues that exist, and for some they are bigger than some issues are for others. It's certainly not anything horrific in the overall sense and things are mostly fine, but there are issues nonetheless.

 

[RebornProphet]

You sir are exactly the kind of people I'm referring to. Me and many others do notice lag and yes I have tried everything in my power to fix this (even installed clean iOS9). You and others who simply don't see this issue either don't notice lag and is not visible to your eyes, or you are used to it, or you don't experience it, BUT OTHERS DO and it seems to be a very common issue. What's so confusing about this? lol

These people write off our experiences with a scoff and a hint of condescension, yet we've to believe their opinion? Absolute hypocrisy, telling us that iOS 9 is absolutely fluid and smooth and that we're wrong. There is no right or wrong here, that's what these people don't grasp. Some people have a level where the animations are acceptable. It's not medical or neurological like some other posts I've read, it's simply that some people can't see the drops and stutters and some (many judging by this forum and others) can.

When you've been accustomed to 6 months daily use of iOS 8 on iPad Air 2, it's very easy to notice any drops or stutters in the UI animations. That device is, until the A9 and A9X devices launch, remains THE optimal iOS experience.

The way you can pinch to home, immediately tap an app icon, pinch to home again immediately upon the opening, tap a different app, etc is ridiculously responsive and quick. On iOS 9 I simply couldn't do that quickly, and for some reason the pinch to home gesture kept resulting in the swipe left or right through open apps gesture instead.

 

[DustinDev47]

It's an Apple forum. This is a place where people will share their issues with their Apple devices. Sorry not everyone is here to kiss Apple's ass 24/7.

no one here has a problem with you sharing your issues. we have a problem with everyone always using extremes and making everything so black and white. it's 9.0 for ****'s sake. give them a chance. a lot of us are really enjoying iOS 9 and we are letting you know; I hardly consider that giving Apple any undue credit.

and for what it's worth, you're missing out. I get a fruity taste on my lips every time I kiss Apple's ass.

 

[fel10]

no one here has a problem with you sharing your issues. we have a problem with everyone always using extremes and making everything so black and white. it's 9.0 for ****'s sake. give them a chance. a lot of us are really enjoying iOS 9 and we are letting you know; I hardly consider that giving Apple any undue credit.

and for what it's worth, you're missing out. I get a fruity taste on my lips every time I kiss Apple's ass.

Plenty of people have given ios 9 a chance and it's clearly not working for them, me included. Don't promise people something if you can't deliver, plain and simple.

And I think I'll pass on kissing Apple's or any company's ass. That's beyond pathetic. I think it’s great if you have a favorite brand or company that you’re enthusiastic about. However, it’s not-so-great if your love of that brand turns into an insane religious devotion that leads you to lash out angrily at even the slightest criticism of it.

 

[DustinDev47]

Plenty of people have given ios 9 a chance and it's clearly not working for them, me included. Don't promise people something if you can't deliver, plain and simple.

I didn't mean grace the software with the gift of your use. I meant perhaps wait for a 9.0.1 or a 9.1 or a whatever.whatever.whatever. And after you wait for that, consider throwing all of your electronics away, because there's something wrong with every single one of them.

And I think I'll pass on kissing Apple's or any company's ass. That's beyond pathetic. I think it’s great if you have a favorite brand or company that you’re enthusiastic about. However, it’s not-so-great if your love of that brand turns into an insane religious devotion that leads you to lash out angrily at even the slightest criticism of it.

it's not an insane religious devotion. I strongly like Apple and I admit my bias toward them freely. that doesn't mean I can't take a single issue with regard to Apple and look at it objectively.

here's a challenge: you show me a company that maintains its software actively and I'll show you some ****in problems with that software

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Plenty of people have given ios 9 a chance and it's clearly not working for them, me included. Don't promise people something if you can't deliver, plain and simple.

And I think I'll pass on kissing Apple's or any company's ass. That's beyond pathetic. I think it’s great if you have a favorite brand or company that you’re enthusiastic about. However, it’s not-so-great if your love of that brand turns into an insane religious devotion that leads you to lash out angrily at even the slightest criticism of it.

All I can say is iOS 9 was released to the general public only 3 days ago. If an update comes in the next few weeks that irons out any of the issues, the impatience of some will look rather silly. I can appreciate a few people have had issues others haven't, but I think a number of people need to stop attacking each other over what is only a mobile interface. It will no doubt be sorted out soon.

 

[Damolee]

What I found pathetic is the whining of people about non existent issues every single year...
Most of the time you find out they are installing iOS 9 on very old devices like iPad 3 or iPhone 4S.
On my iPad Air, surely not a new device by any means, iOS 9 is smooth like the previous release.

It runs fine on my iPad Air, but that's only because iOS 8 was never that great on it to start with.

It's the people who have an iPhone 6 or 6 Plus that should have real cause for upset. It's not good on them at all.

 

[I7guy]

These people write off our experiences with a scoff and a hint of condescension, yet we've to believe their opinion? Absolute hypocrisy, telling us that iOS 9 is absolutely fluid and smooth and that we're wrong. There is no right or wrong here, that's what these people don't grasp. Some people have a level where the animations are acceptable. It's not medical or neurological like some other posts I've read, it's simply that some people can't see the drops and stutters and some (many judging by this forum and others) can.

When you've been accustomed to 6 months daily use of iOS 8 on iPad Air 2, it's very easy to notice any drops or stutters in the UI animations. That device is, until the A9 and A9X devices launch, remains THE optimal iOS experience.

The way you can pinch to home, immediately tap an app icon, pinch to home again immediately upon the opening, tap a different app, etc is ridiculously responsive and quick. On iOS 9 I simply couldn't do that quickly, and for some reason the pinch to home gesture kept resulting in the swipe left or right through open apps gesture instead.

Who writes off whose experiences? There are people who are satisfied with iOS 9 and are being told to get their vision and nervous system checked. Actually amusing.

 

[newellj]

I've actually downgraded on one device and have another one that is still on 8.4.1 so I have direct immediate comparisons. I'm not saying it's like that for everyone, but it is for me, and not because I don't recall exactly or anything like that, but because it actually really is.

I have gone back and forth with 8.4.1 and 9 and agree. Those saying that 8.4.1 is dramatically faster and/or smoother are seeing something I don't see. Notice that I did not say that they are liars or idiots...

 

[newellj]

These people write off our experiences with a scoff and a hint of condescension, yet we've to believe their opinion? Absolute hypocrisy, telling us that iOS 9 is absolutely fluid and smooth and that we're wrong. There is no right or wrong here, that's what these people don't grasp. Some people have a level where the animations are acceptable. It's not medical or neurological like some other posts I've read, it's simply that some people can't see the drops and stutters and some (many judging by this forum and others) can.

When you've been accustomed to 6 months daily use of iOS 8 on iPad Air 2, it's very easy to notice any drops or stutters in the UI animations. That device is, until the A9 and A9X devices launch, remains THE optimal iOS experience.

The way you can pinch to home, immediately tap an app icon, pinch to home again immediately upon the opening, tap a different app, etc is ridiculously responsive and quick. On iOS 9 I simply couldn't do that quickly, and for some reason the pinch to home gesture kept resulting in the swipe left or right through open apps gesture instead.

FWIW, you might give the 9.1 PB a shot. I found the touchscreen much more responsive than with 9.0.

 

[apeaceofstrange]

iOS 9 is laggier for me but the bug that's really driving me nuts is trying to Quick reply from the message notification banner freezes me 20% of the time I'd say. Does this happen to anyone else?

 

[RebornProphet]

Who writes off whose experiences? There are people who are satisfied with iOS 9 and are being told to get their vision and nervous system checked. Actually amusing.

You and a few others have replied, like above, in a condescending manner. How hard is it to understand that different people have different tolerances of what's acceptable in these animations? I've never once said anyone is right or wrong, it's a simple fact that some people don't notice these stutters or frame drops.

If there are people out there who can't tell the difference between an iPhone 4 running iOS 8 and iPhone 6 running iOS 8, why is it hard to believe there are people who can't tell the difference between iOS 8 and iOS 9 on newer devices?

My father in law is 56, he has upgraded from a 4 to a 5c and says he can't tell the difference and even thinks his old 4 has better battery life.

I notice the stutters and the sluggish animations, always have and always will. If other people don't, that's great ...

 

[I7guy]

You and a few others have replied, like above, in a condescending manner. How hard is it to understand that different people have different tolerances of what's acceptable in these animations? I've never once said anyone is right or wrong, it's a simple fact that some people don't notice these stutters or frame drops.

If there are people out there who can't tell the difference between an iPhone 4 running iOS 8 and iPhone 6 running iOS 8. My father in law is 56, he has upgraded from a 4 to a 5c and says he can't tell the difference and even thinks his old 4 has better battery life.

I notice the stutters and the sluggish animations, always have and always will. If other people don't, that's great ...

I am very sensitive and do not have some of the issues described. You don't think getting told to check my eyes is not a condescending response?

 

[Max(IT)]

To be fair there are some issues that exist, and for some they are bigger than some issues are for others. It's certainly not anything horrific in the overall sense and things are mostly fine, but there are issues nonetheless.

Do you know of ANY piece of software that is issue free ?

It runs fine on my iPad Air, but that's only because iOS 8 was never that great on it to start with.

It's the people who have an iPhone 6 or 6 Plus that should have real cause for upset. It's not good on them at all.

I'm using iOS 9 on my iPhone 6 and 5S also.... nothing important to report.

 

[pbridge354]

Assuming iOS 9 came with a bundle of new features it wouldn't be as much of a deal that it had some stutter being an x.0 release.

But becsuse one of the most significant features Apple advertised for iOS 9 was Metal providing a better experience is where my bitterness comes from. It's like selling tap water as bottled spring water. iOS 9 is a disappointing release for devices without force touch.

 

[RebornProphet]

I am very sensitive and do not have some of the issues described. You don't think getting told to check my eyes is not a condescending response?

I've already addressed that by stating in numerous previous posts that I don't believe it's anything to do with eyesight.

The places on iOS 9 when I notice the sluggishness are when tapping an app in the new switcher, when it begins to zoom in its sluggish and when you swipe down for Spotlight on the home screen there is a stutter at the very start of the animation as Spotlight appears, like a jump.

And, from time to time but not in every instance, when pressing the home button to exit an app the zoom out transition is sluggish, it's not smooth every time.

That's regardless of update from iOS 8, restore via iTunes or DFU mode.

 

[RebornProphet]

FWIW, you might give the 9.1 PB a shot. I found the touchscreen much more responsive than with 9.0.

Might try it out while the 8.4.1 window is still open. Cheers.

 

[XTheLancerX]

Assuming iOS 9 came with a bundle of new features it wouldn't be as much of a deal that it had some stutter being an x.0 release.

But becsuse one of the most significant features Apple advertised for iOS 9 was Metal providing a better experience is where my bitterness comes from. It's like selling tap water as bottled spring water. iOS 9 is a disappointing release for devices without force touch.

Exactly. I never would have gotten so irritated by iOS 9 if we wouldn't have been promised the performance *improvements* However, we were promised improvements back in June, so Apple gave us a release riddled with little delays and performance issues anyway. Now, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. If it was SUCH a huge disaster I would have downgraded already like others suggested. But I can tolerate it. I will just be annoyed a bit, and then it will just keep building up till I snap (here on the forums) then I get over it, and repeat.

I am going to admit that I'm one of the very vocal people about iOS 9 and it's performance issues, as you have seen previously. Some posts of mine are very condescending towards others, some aren't. It really just depends on the mood I'm in at the time of posting, or how long I've been following the thread and watching the nonsense. I just wish the people with "no issues" would accept that there are the same issues on every device, they just don't encounter them or see or care about them as much (lucky for them! I wish I couldn't see these issues or care) But people will continue the fighting over something you can't prove. It's like describing colors to someone who cannot see color at all. It will never work out in a resolution, because the person who can see color can't actually ever fully prove what he or she is trying to explain.

 

[Sea Bass]

I wasn't being self righteous, just merely pointing out the same to you.

I replied to this thread stating that battery life has been better on my iPhone and I, personally, would not downgrade to iOS 8.4.1. You're the one who came after me and tried to invalidate my statement. My own battery life on my iPhone has been better on iOS 9.

 

[cynics]

I replied to this thread stating that battery life has been better on my iPhone and I, personally, would not downgrade to iOS 8.4.1. You're the one who came after me and tried to invalidate my statement. My own battery life on my iPhone has been better on iOS 9, and frankly, I don't care if the same isn't true for you.

I'm surprised you you you you you called anyone self righteous to begin with. I have a feeling you hear that a lot.

 

[h9826790]

I upgrade to 9.0 three days ago, and only use it for few hours then upgrade to 9.1beta due to the serious lag on my 6+.

I know it may be indexing. However, shouldn't be that significant.

Once I go to 9.1beta, everything being smooth again. So, it may be the OS, may be just bad luck for that particular OS upgrade, or may be the OS is not stabilized yet.

Anyway, I am happy with 9.1beta now. The 6+ is quite big for one hand ops, but the enhanced assistive touch in iOS 9 now really make one hand ops much easier.