Downgraded to iOS 8.4.1 and god, its so smooth

[The-Real-Deal82]

These people write off our experiences with a scoff and a hint of condescension, yet we've to believe their opinion? Absolute hypocrisy, telling us that iOS 9 is absolutely fluid and smooth and that we're wrong. There is no right or wrong here, that's what these people don't grasp. Some people have a level where the animations are acceptable. It's not medical or neurological like some other posts I've read, it's simply that some people can't see the drops and stutters and some (many judging by this forum and others) can.

When you've been accustomed to 6 months daily use of iOS 8 on iPad Air 2, it's very easy to notice any drops or stutters in the UI animations. That device is, until the A9 and A9X devices launch, remains THE optimal iOS experience.

The way you can pinch to home, immediately tap an app icon, pinch to home again immediately upon the opening, tap a different app, etc is ridiculously responsive and quick. On iOS 9 I simply couldn't do that quickly, and for some reason the pinch to home gesture kept resulting in the swipe left or right through open apps gesture instead.

It's got nothing to do with some people noticing issues and others not. The black and white is that some people have issues and others simply don't. I don't have any issues with my iPhone 6 although I had some before a reboot. It's not that I can't see issues, it's just that I appear to be lucky and don't have them.

No stutters, drawn out animations masking the lag and no freezes. Others may have them but I don't. I hope Apple release an update soon to correct it for everybody.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You sir are exactly the kind of people I'm referring to. Me and many others do notice lag and yes I have tried everything in my power to fix this (even installed clean iOS9). You and others who simply don't see this issue either don't notice lag and is not visible to your eyes, or you are used to it, or you don't experience it, BUT OTHERS DO and it seems to be a very common issue. What's so confusing about this? lol

And again it has nothing to do with not noticing it, but an easy situation of some experiencing it and others not.

 

[FoxD]

Another member and myself solved the iOS9 lag issue.

Settings-General-Accesibility-Increase Contrast-Reduce Transparency
Turn that to on, and then switch it back to off again. Problem solved! No more lag!

 

[RebornProphet]

It's got nothing to do with some people noticing issues and others not. The black and white is that some people have issues and others simply don't. I don't have any issues with my iPhone 6 although I had some before a reboot. It's not that I can't see issues, it's just that I appear to be lucky and don't have them.

No stutters, drawn out animations masking the lag and no freezes. Others may have them but I don't. I hope Apple release an update soon to correct it for everybody.

It's everything to do with some people notice it and some don't.

Do you acknowledge that there is a perceivable and immediately noticeable difference between the animations on an iPhone 4 on iOS 8 and an iPhone 6 on iOS 8? There is, we know there is.

While THAT example is down to differing hardware, the point being made is that there ARE people out there who don't see it, who have told me to my face that their iPhone 4 is as smooth and "no different" to my iPhone 6 on iOS 8.

So, yes it's down to what people simply find acceptable. I've been using iOS since iPhone OS days, I've been dealing with this crap from Apple for years. Hopefully the 9.1 release fixes it (not the beta) as it had iOS 7 and iOS 8 in the past.

 

[I7guy]

I've already addressed that by stating in numerous previous posts that I don't believe it's anything to do with eyesight.

The places on iOS 9 when I notice the sluggishness are when tapping an app in the new switcher, when it begins to zoom in its sluggish and when you swipe down for Spotlight on the home screen there is a stutter at the very start of the animation as Spotlight appears, like a jump.

And, from time to time but not in every instance, when pressing the home button to exit an app the zoom out transition is sluggish, it's not smooth every time.

That's regardless of update from iOS 8, restore via iTunes or DFU mode.

To me those a so minor, but to each their own and I'm sure I can find threads where people complain about 8.4.1. That being said, the Safari updates far and away compensates for any perceived or real sluggishness in the areas just mentioned.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It's everything to do with some people notice it and some don't.

Do you acknowledge that there is a perceivable and immediately noticeable difference between the animations on an iPhone 4 on iOS 8 and an iPhone 6 on iOS 8? There is, we know there is.

While THAT example is down to differing hardware, the point being made is that there ARE people out there who don't see it, who have told me to my face that their iPhone 4 is as smooth and "no different" to my iPhone 6 on iOS 8.

So, yes it's down to what people simply find acceptable. I've been using iOS since iPhone OS days, I've been dealing with this crap from Apple for years. Hopefully the 9.1 release fixes it (not the beta) as it had iOS 7 and iOS 8 in the past.

Older devices are different, I wasn't suggesting a hardware differential played no part. I was talking more about recent devices. I have read differing accounts of owners like myself who have had issues on an iPhone 6. This has everything to do with certain devices experiencing issues and others not.

 

[rhonin]

If you do have issues, my first suggestion would be to wipe and set up as a new phone rather than an upgrade. I've run into issues with iOS upgrades occasionally before that have been fixed by doing that, from memory the last time it happened was upgrading from iOS 6 beta 4 or something to iOS 6 release.

Its more common if you've been running betas or maybe jailbroken.

Since when did wipe/redo become the common acceptable solution? Feels like I am back in the old Windows days.

 

[rhonin]

Exactly. Your eyes sort of get used to the lag and it becomes normal to you. Then when you use iOS 8.4.1 again, it's like "WHOA!"

I wouldn't say "used to..". More likely (and I have seen this a few times in the last couple of days) is you got used to the "work arounds" you developed for iOS 8 / 7 / x... Now that you are on 9, these likely do not work and you suddenly perceive a "fresh" issue.
For me iOS8 was a buggy 'lil bastard. I have yet to update my 6+ due to Exchange issues and my Mini 3 has some new issues. Improvements, fixes, new bugs, old bugs, etc.... No matter how you look at it the last few iOS upgrades have been anything but stellar.

 

[RebornProphet]

Older devices are different, I wasn't suggesting a hardware differential played no part. I was talking more about recent devices. I have read differing accounts of owners like myself who have had issues on an iPhone 6. This has everything to do with certain devices experiencing issues and others not.

Since I just love repeating myself, and since I did my utmost to actually negate getting the EXACT answer you gave me, try again. ...

"Do you acknowledge that there is a perceivable and immediately noticeable difference between the animations on an iPhone 4 on iOS 8 and an iPhone 6 on iOS 8? There is, we know there is.

While THAT example is down to differing hardware, the point being made is that there ARE people out there who don't see it, who have told me to my face that their iPhone 4 is as smooth and "no different" to my iPhone 6."

Bloody hell.

Even a well respected YouTube user, EverythjngApplePro, has commented on the lag in iOS 9. It's real, it's simply a matter of what is acceptable to YOU.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Since I just love repeating myself, and since I did my utmost to actually negate getting the EXACT answer you gave me, try again. ...

"Do you acknowledge that there is a perceivable and immediately noticeable difference between the animations on an iPhone 4 on iOS 8 and an iPhone 6 on iOS 8? There is, we know there is.

While THAT example is down to differing hardware, the point being made is that there ARE people out there who don't see it, who have told me to my face that their iPhone 4 is as smooth and "no different" to my iPhone 6."

Bloody hell.

Even a well respected YouTube user, EverythjngApplePro, has commented on the lag in iOS 9. It's real, it's simply a matter of what is acceptable to YOU.

I thought I had covered older devices in my answer, although admittedly I do not own an iPhone 4 to give a truthful answer in any case. I gave my account of the lag I experienced when I first updated and this seems to have been resolved by restarting my phone. I don't have stuttering, freezing, delayed swipes or long drawn out animations masking lag. I am happy so far with iOS 9.

Do yourself a favour, take a deep breath, calm down and stop giving condescending and snarky responses to people who are being nothing but polite to you on here.

 

[C DM]

You and a few others have replied, like above, in a condescending manner. How hard is it to understand that different people have different tolerances of what's acceptable in these animations? I've never once said anyone is right or wrong, it's a simple fact that some people don't notice these stutters or frame drops.

If there are people out there who can't tell the difference between an iPhone 4 running iOS 8 and iPhone 6 running iOS 8, why is it hard to believe there are people who can't tell the difference between iOS 8 and iOS 9 on newer devices?

My father in law is 56, he has upgraded from a 4 to a 5c and says he can't tell the difference and even thinks his old 4 has better battery life.

I notice the stutters and the sluggish animations, always have and always will. If other people don't, that's great ...

If you actually read what's in these kinds of threads you'll see that the responses calling people blind or stupid or not being as good at something or being applologists or being sheep or many other things are mostly coming from those who are talking about having issues when jumping on those who aren't (most of whom do not say anything at all about those with issues and often go out of their way to specifically point that out).

 

[C DM]

Do you know of ANY piece of software that is issue free ?



I'm using iOS 9 on my iPhone 6 and 5S also.... nothing important to report.

That's what I was pointing out, that issues exist in any software pretty much, especially initial x.0 versions. That was in reply to your comment that every hear people whine about nonexistent issues--to say that it's not like there aren't issues (as you yourself supported as well).

 

[throAU]

Since when did wipe/redo become the common acceptable solution? Feels like I am back in the old Windows days.

Sometimes things happen. Do you want to fix the problem, or just whine about it?

In my experience it is not "common". Of the 300+ iPhones I support, i've had maybe 2 instances of it being required in the past 6 years.

 

[Radon87000]

Been 3 days and my iPhone 6 is definitely laggier than on 8.4.1.Swiping to the left of the screen to spotlight has frame rate drops.Seen some frame skips scrolling the interface and opening folders almost always has frame skips 90% of the time as it zooms in.Control centre is not the 60 fps animation it once was.Dynamic wallpapers isnt even an option now as heavy lag infests my phone if I use em

AND THE ONE GODDAMN problem which drives me crazy is that on many apps there is a delay of a second or 2 with a black screen before the app launches..Chrome is an excellent example which I use almost everyday.My co-workers Moto G is launching Chrome faster than my iPhone 6 a year old flagship.If Apple doesnt fix this **** with the next release I am off to the Moto X Pure

 

[cynics]

Sometimes things happen. Do you want to fix the problem, or just whine about it?

In my experience it is not "common". Of the 300+ iPhones I support, i've had maybe 2 instances of it being required in the past 6 years.

This, every single time I've tried to restore as new it's never been a solution to my problems. Unless you are experiencing lag that is making the device nearly unusable you'll just experience the same thing. Like most that have done it have already found out.

I restored from new as my update on my 5S without even trying to just do an OTA update or update through iTunes. And I can see bits of lag here and there, phone is still perfectly usable but just as advertised. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for iOS 9.whatever. Lol

 

[Nomadski]

I replied to this thread stating that battery life has been better on my iPhone and I, personally, would not downgrade to iOS 8.4.1. You're the one who came after me and tried to invalidate my statement. My own battery life on my iPhone has been better on iOS 9.

Look back a couple of pages to my first post in this thread. You directly quoted ME saying YOUR battery life was fine, trying to disqualify MY issues.

Sort out your logic mate.

Have gone back to iOS 8, now enjoying a nice smoother longer lasting experience. YMMV.

 

[FoxD]

Been 3 days and my iPhone 6 is definitely laggier than on 8.4.1.Swiping to the left of the screen to spotlight has frame rate drops.Seen some frame skips scrolling the interface and opening folders almost always has frame skips 90% of the time as it zooms in.Control centre is not the 60 fps animation it once was.Dynamic wallpapers isnt even an option now as heavy lag infests my phone if I use em

AND THE ONE GODDAMN problem which drives me crazy is that on many apps there is a delay of a second or 2 with a black screen before the app launches..Chrome is an excellent example which I use almost everyday.My co-workers Moto G is launching Chrome faster than my iPhone 6 a year old flagship.If Apple doesnt fix this **** with the next release I am off to the Moto X Pure

Try the fix we posted to fix lag. It works, no lag on my 6 Plus now when before the trick it was terrible. Turn on reduce transparency under settings. Play around on iPhone and notice it does not have lag. Then turn it back to off and the lag will still be gone. It works for everyone 6 Plus I've tried it on.

 

[RebornProphet]

Well, I DFU restored to iOS 9.1 b1 and the animations are far better.

I've gone back to 9.0 for comparison purposes and then back to 9.1 and I'll be staying there. It's not perfect, some little niggles here and there which are to be expected with a beta but UI animation wise it's far smoother in the places I noticed sluggish and stuttering animations on 9.0. My iPad Air 2 isn't at 8.4.1 levels of responsiveness, but again it's far better than 9.0.

 

[RebornProphet]

I thought I had covered older devices in my answer, although admittedly I do not own an iPhone 4 to give a truthful answer in any case. I gave my account of the lag I experienced when I first updated and this seems to have been resolved by restarting my phone. I don't have stuttering, freezing, delayed swipes or long drawn out animations masking lag. I am happy so far with iOS 9.

Do yourself a favour, take a deep breath, calm down and stop giving condescending and snarky responses to people who are being nothing but polite to you on here.

How ironic, a condescending post telling someone to stop being condescending. I've already mentioned where I seen (I say seen because now I'm on 9.1 I don't see them) where I specifically seen the stutter or sluggishness in the animations.

I still maintain that unless you've extensively used an iPad Air 2 on iOS 8.4.1 you've not had the optimal iOS experience. That device, in part down the the new display, played a huge role in the responsiveness of the device, along with the software.

9.0 and even 9.1 still don't come close to 8.4.1 on the Air 2, although 9.1 is a damn sight closer than the midden Apple released last week.

 

[Sea Bass]

Look back a couple of pages to my first post in this thread. You directly quoted ME saying YOUR battery life was fine, trying to disqualify MY issues.

Sort out your logic mate.

My first post in this thread, at 6:26 PM, addressed to no one in particular:

I value the increased battery life on my iPhone too much to go back to iOS 8.

Your first post in the this thread, at 7:28 PM; directly quoting and addressing me:

I've charged my iPhone 6 twice to 100% today, and it's currently sitting on 46%.

Hmm.

 

[sbailey4]

For some, certainly, not so much for others. Went back to 8.4.1 for a bit and have another device that is still on 8.4.1 and definitely no "whoa" or anything like that, at best minor differences if any at all in my experience (meaning that certainly that might not be and likely won't be the case for some others).

Same here. Wifes iP6 still on 8.4.1 and it might be 1/4 to 1/2 second faster loading an app the first time. Otherwise no difference. The other features in iOS9 far outweigh that minuscule amount.

 

[Stanick]

I just had a conversation with a co-worker regarding ios9, he has a 5, I have a 5s, out of curiosity I asked him if he experiences any lag on his phone he said no... it runs perfectly. Then he pulled his phone out and unlocked it and oh GOD animations lag straight from unlock, my ios OCD is getting level 9000. I ask him in disbelief "you don't see the lag?" He says No. So there you go, definitely some people just can't see lag...

 

[blogbytes]

I just had a conversation with a co-worker regarding ios9, he has a 5, I have a 5s, out of curiosity I asked him if he experiences any lag on his phone he said no... it runs perfectly. Then he pulled his phone out and unlocked it and oh GOD animations lag straight from unlock, my ios OCD is getting level 9000. I ask him in disbelief "you don't see the lag?" He says No. So there you go, definitely some people just can't see lag...

Same here. My wife can't see/feel the lag. She tells me her iPhone 6 is as smooth as it used to be
I then have a look and it lags all over. I can spot the lagging. All our devices running 9 are lagging. FPS lag to be exact.

Apps take 1-2 seconds to open and have a black screen until open. Scrolling left and right between icons lags. Opening up the search lags each time.

Very annoying. Feels like I'm running android with an iOS skin.

9.1 feels slightly better though. But far from fixed. I'm not sure how apple missed this? The smoothness of an iPhone was always my selling point to convince people to buy one.

 

[C DM]

I just had a conversation with a co-worker regarding ios9, he has a 5, I have a 5s, out of curiosity I asked him if he experiences any lag on his phone he said no... it runs perfectly. Then he pulled his phone out and unlocked it and oh GOD animations lag straight from unlock, my ios OCD is getting level 9000. I ask him in disbelief "you don't see the lag?" He says No. So there you go, definitely some people just can't see lag...

Certainly people like that, just as there are those with actually more of a lag or more issues than various others.

 

[Merkie]

The most annoying thing is the lag when simply waking up the screen. The fade-in is a slide show 8 out of 10 times (iPhone 5).