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If eGPU support is there, why not have all the device IDs for all Polaris and Fiji chipsets enabled already? It makes no sense to have eGPU support only for the slowest low power chips when those can be inside a computer already.

I don't know what those kext imply, however, if that's point to a new display with build in eGPU. They only need the Device ID for the chip that will be installed inside the display, why including other chip's info? I still can't see why Apple want to provide general eGPU support.

Also, the eGPU inside the display only need to be a bridge to drive the 5K pixels, no need to provide any computational power. So, the lowest level chip that just enough to drive the pixels is good enough. Of course, even that's a low end chip, we still want to able to use that extra GPU power, but that's not the Apple's way.

If they decide that's the best way to make the 5K display, they will install a chip at there but we can never utilise it. Just like they put the "K" CPU inside the iMac but we can never ever OC it. Of course, they will still charge us accordingly + the Apple tax.

In both case, the problem points to the same issue, heat! the iMac obviously just barely can cool down the CPU. Even without OC, the iMac still rely on thermal throttling. So, there is no room to OC the "K" CPU. If they make a build in eGPU 5K display, I am quite sure the cooling system will just barely can cool down the GPU. Any real stress to the GPU will cause overheat straight away. That can explain why the Apple may not allow us to utilise the eGPU inside the display, and that sounds like more the Apple way of doing things.
 
Very well could be. I'm hoping Apple brings official support for eGPU even if it's inside a new Apple Display. That way the eGPU community will have more resources to develop better DIY solutions.
 
small update. spent the afternoon putting in the rest of the parts into my mac 4.1 to 5.1 flash machine, 2x2.93GHz processors and 40GB ram, she's running great. Also had time to test the XFX RX 470 Hard Swap. just like a little Brother to the XFX RX 480. still very cool, this one will run no problem off a single 6 pin cable meaning running 2 of them together would be no problem. I decided to hold off shipping back the 480's as i'm running one right now with 2 6 pin to 1 8pin and so far so good. i'll further test the unit hard tomorrow. then i'm ordering some Sata to pcie power adapters and going to make it work! also will try modifying the bios and seeing what kind of power draw is happening but i feel a lot more confident in it now!
 
If they wanted an efficient GPU in their monitor they could just use the one that ships in the A10 SOC. It's already more powerful and efficient than anything that ships in an MBP.
 
small update. spent the afternoon putting in the rest of the parts into my mac 4.1 to 5.1 flash machine, 2x2.93GHz processors and 40GB ram, she's running great. Also had time to test the XFX RX 470 Hard Swap. just like a little Brother to the XFX RX 480. still very cool, this one will run no problem off a single 6 pin cable meaning running 2 of them together would be no problem. I decided to hold off shipping back the 480's as i'm running one right now with 2 6 pin to 1 8pin and so far so good. i'll further test the unit hard tomorrow. then i'm ordering some Sata to pcie power adapters and going to make it work! also will try modifying the bios and seeing what kind of power draw is happening but i feel a lot more confident in it now!


Do I understand correctly that you used a 2 mini-pcie cables to 1 8 pin-pcie cable, if so where did you bought it, and do you have any photos of this setup

Last night installed my RX 480 Nitro 4GB into my Mac Pro 5.1, works in OSX using kext edit. However when starting up BF1 and clicking on campaign the Mac Pro got shut down immediately...

The Nitro RX480 has a bios switch which will put it into a more clocked down mode if I'm correct, will test this tonight if this works.

If the 2x 6-pin to 8-pin works then I would be very happy.
 
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Y split mini 6-pin to 8-pin would keep an RX 480 running stable. The appeal of the RX480/470 is that it runs with one mini 6-pin to 6-pin cable. An overclocked GPU which draws more power negates this benefit.

If you only want one AMD GPU, the R9 Nano/Fury is a better option; they work the same way with the kext mods (PCI ID 7300 instead of 67DF).
 
Do I understand correctly that you used a 2 mini-pcie cables to 1 8 pin-pcie cable, if so where did you bought it, and do you have any photos of this setup

Last night installed my RX 480 Nitro 4GB into my Mac Pro 5.1, works in OSX using kext edit. However when starting up BF1 and clicking on campaign the Mac Pro got shut down immediately...

The Nitro RX480 has a bios switch which will put it into a more clocked down mode if I'm correct, will test this tonight if this works.

If the 2x 6-pin to 8-pin works then I would be very happy.
I wont get to heavily test it till after work tonight. I am using 2 mini pcie 6 to 6 pin cables and a Y splitter to 8 Pin now on a single card, seems to be fine ATM. It Seems the XFX cards being sold are overclocked (1288MHz and 1338Mhz) and need 8 pin cables and seem to pull over 150watts under heavy load. pcie bus and booster is only 75w each so its shutting down due to going over the limit. So that is the issue, Im still curious to see the announcement Thursday and find out if there are any new options, Hoping to see some future Cards being flashed for mac EFI.
 
hay may be off topic but found a youtube Chanel that looks at different RX 480 PCB's mostly looking at build quality with reference to overclocking them but cooling is mentioned sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpS0n7xxSadXWGk02NMCMLuav8vjxqvmA

looks like the Gigabyte RX 480 G1 Gaming cheeped out on cooling and quality.

I think the 'K' CPU's are used in imacs as there chary picked for efficiency so they run cooler at stock voltage.

If there's a apple display with GPU inside maybe it will help the low end macbook airs and tablet's/phone run a 5K display or let them bring out a new super battery life laptop with a super low power GPU internal and the up sale of only being able to run 'apple' 5K displays
maybe thats why we have RX460 working out of the box?
 
So got my card running stable at the moment using my pc as a power suply.

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This worked, for the time being until the y splitter arives I'm using my old PSU.

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Was able to play everything smooth on Ultra @ 1080P 120HZ with freesync and DX11 enabled in Battlefield 1.
 
quick update. ran threw lots of heavy load testing on the 480 last night and everything is stable and running smooth. the extra pcie booster power works great. this is the last update ill have in a while because I've been given a project by a client to build them a custom pxe server and will be tied up building that the next couple of days. tomorrow is the day we will know something hopefully!
 
quick update. ran threw lots of heavy load testing on the 480 last night and everything is stable and running smooth. the extra pcie booster power works great. this is the last update ill have in a while because I've been given a project by a client to build them a custom pxe server and will be tied up building that the next couple of days. tomorrow is the day we will know something hopefully!

That's great to know! I will pick up a Y cable on ebay soon. I was super nervous watching power consumption climb that it made enjoying my games a bit of a drag.
 
Today I connected my xfx gtr with only one 6-pin power cable, and played the witcher 3 and gta v for 30 minutes. Everything ran smoothly and with no problems, no shutdowns. The rx 480 was clocked 1350 on core and 2150 on memory . Of course it was on bootcamped windows 10 anniversary.
 
You OC'ed the GPU? Or was it factory OC'ed?
My gpu is xfx gtr rx 480 (non black) so it is factory clocked at 1288. I've OC'd it to 1350/2150 on stock voltages. With power limit at +50 and only one 6-pin connected playing gta v didn't cause any shutdowns or system errors.
 
It appears that XFX have found some magic formula. None of the RX 480's behaves like this. 1.35 GHz gives you 6.22 TFLOPs. And it appears that the power draw does not exceed 150W's...
 
It appears that XFX have found some magic formula. None of the RX 480's behaves like this. 1.35 GHz gives you 6.22 TFLOPs. And it appears that the power draw does not exceed 150W's...

How did you calculated TFLOPs based on clock speed? About power draw - when monitoring in msi afterburner it hardly exceeded 100W.
 
How did you calculated TFLOPs based on clock speed? About power draw - when monitoring in msi afterburner it hardly exceeded 100W.
2304 GCN cores x 2 x core clock. That's how you calculate the compute performance of the GPU.

100W is for GPU only, without the board. Depending on the design of PCB, RX 480 PCB's can consume up to 50W of power.
 
To add, I did not have power issues until I used the 3.46 processors which used about 130w each instead of the other system that used 95w each. Also I played several games on the overclocked 1338 480 and did not shut down with single cable. However. Most of my games weren't that intensive. It wasn't a problem till trying to play doom 2016 at 4K on the new system that I had the shutdown issues. Been running the 480 again for about 50 hours since hooking up with both pcie power boosters and even under long taxing loads it runs fine. I don't think I'm going to crossfire as it's not supported in a lot of games and power drain is a problem. I may still return them and get something different but I love the hardswap fans so maybe not
 
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