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It's actually kind of smart idea to announce it far before they release it. That way, they effectively have a 1st-gen iPhone out for public scrutiny, even though it isn't in anybody's hands yet. So because of that, they can listen to what else people want in it and their opinions and stuff, then when Apple actually releases the iPhone, it'll effectively be a 2nd-gen.

And another thing, everyone's trying to copy the 1st-gen iPhone. When Apple releases the 2nd-gen iPhone, all those companies will have made bad rip-offs of an outdated product.
 
For better or worse Apple is going to be considered the inventor of the iPhone metaphor. Useful and functional touch screen context sensitive interfaces, innovative design, properly integrated fully functional software for phones.

Any competing devices that mimic this sort of functionality will be perceived as also-rans. So at this point, this is Apples game to lose.

As someone rightly pointed out - we don't know what the end user experience is truly going to be like. It might be all sunshiny and glowing as the keynote suggests, or there might be some fundamental WTF type flaws that prevent it from being the winner we all want it to be.

Just thinking about the proximity sensors that detect your face against the phone and shut off the touch screen. That must have been a bear to get to work right. How does it know the difference between your face and a big hand? How does it react to very low light situations?

There are all kinds of things that can go wrong. And of course, the iPod accessory vendors are going to be readying their iPhone add ons, including designer screen wipes, I'm sure. :)

Just hope Rogers here in Canada gets the phone sooner than later, and offers a reasonable package plan for it (data). They aren't known for being friendly on those terms, so hopefully Apple will smack 'em around a bit.
 
a little off topic, but have you guys seen this?

http://www.iphone.com/

i thought it was only Cisco that had the shared name rights??

and i also thought that iPhone.com took you to Apple's homepage for years??

I don't know that only Cisco share rights, but it's quite possible that this company owns different rights. Their product is a service and not a device, and that can make a difference legally.

It is not iPhone.com that takes you Apple's homepage, it is iPhone.org
 
No hand!

Hey, that's the first promotional picture without that hand! :)

Anyway, the iPhone will be available in Europe maybe in 2008, maybe more... and since it will be impossible to change SIM, I won't be able to buy it in US and use here :mad:
 
Since no one has used it, we don't know what the multi-touch functionality and user experience will be like. We also don't know how many bugs it might have, what the reception will be like, etc, etc.

Sorry to rain on your parade, though. I'm looking forward to trying one out as much as everyone else.

I truly believe that Apple WILL NOT half-ass this product.

MacbookSwitcher, you almost seem angry that Apple is getting into the phone market. I read your post about how its running on vapors, and you seem a little bitter about the iPhone. You do make some very valid points though.

To your point about 'we don't know the interface', I think the demo pretty much shows exactly what the interface is going to be like, and that's what sold me on the iPhone. I don't see how me using the iPhone is going to be extremely different from Stevie J during the demo. So to me, the 'we don't know the interface' doesn't cut it.

I really don't think Apple is going to say 'Oh, it's a first gen, so we don't have to try very hard'. I really think that they are covering all their bases and trying to make a really good product.

Or maybe I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid. :)
 
Must... wait... gor 16... GB....

Must... keep... Discover card... in... wallet....

Must... not... be... early... adopter....

Please... send... help....



Reverse what? No amount of competing renditions are going to equal Apple's multitouch functionality and attention to user experience--much less actually engineer and SHIP something, which Apple will soon do.

iPhone "competitors" (there are none so far--it's not quite in the same category as other products) do the same thing that iPod competitors do: they increase the amount people are talking about Apple products! Any time one of those is mentioned in some article, Apple ALSO gets free mention. Must be nice to get so much free buzz :)

Those 200 patents are also going to prevent others from comming with something that realy competes for a little while.
 
There are all kinds of things that can go wrong. And of course, the iPod accessory vendors are going to be readying their iPhone add ons, including designer screen wipes, I'm sure. :)

Can and will go wrong! When any product from a car to a computer hits the public, it gets a larger-scale test than it ever had before, and issues are always found. Maybe small annoyances, maybe big, maybe things that seem bad until you're used to them. But just in case something serious like a faulty component is found (it happens!) I don't want to be an early adopter of any electronics product.

Now, fingerprints are a given--they were obvious in Steve's demo. Luckily you can see through them just fine or wipe them off, but there is NO magic to prevent them. Ditto for scratches--they're nearly inevitable on any device with a screen that gets carried all over. And yet still it hurts to see them on Apple's sleek prooducts :eek:

More here on iPhone message.

http://www.*********.com

Newbie with ONE post, and it's a link. I'm highly suspicious, and in fear of spam I will not click :)
 
What has Apple to do with Mammals? Is it somehow connected with Beatles (but bugs are definitely not mammals)? Or is it only domain speculation?

I can also imagine iZoo - or :apple:Zoo

...might have something to do with
Cheetah Puma Jaguar Panther Tiger Leopard :D
 
iPhone needed features

I think you are exactly right. This is Apple's baby, and they are going to be putting their smartest marketing people on this project and I would expect some exciting new info about the iPhone that has been withheld. Why? Because the 6 month wait from January is long enough for people to nitpick so much that they will hinge their decision to wait till v2 on 1 feature such as price, or storage, or battery life, or app development etc. Apple can now start "upgrading" the phone now through teasers and convert those people who have poo pooed the phone and will now change their position because of 1 minor feature change that Apple may have already planned from the beginning. It also makes Apple look really good if they improve the specs before launch.

I certainly hope so. Add these (without even lowering the price) and I'll buy the first generation:
  • Storage: I should be able to move my whole music collection from my current iPod to this newer iPod. For me that's only about 20GB.
  • GPS: It already shows Google Maps. It should show my current position on that map. Do they even need GPS satellites for that? Can't they use the cell towers it's already talking to?
  • Web Integration - I should be able to access my visual voice mail box through my account page in a browser (presumably tied in with .mac or something). Where I work, cellphones aren't allowed inside, so the kind of features I get right now with GrandCentral should be integrated with the iPhone. Not strictly part of the phone but it's a needed (and rather simple) feature of the service.
 
iphone.org goes to Apple, but I think iphone.com has been its own thing for some time. A name could hardly be more confused between multiple products :)

See also:
http://mammals.org

apple.com ip address : 17.112.152.32
mammals.org ip address : 17.254.0.91

and Apple owns IP Class A value 17 :
- 17 : Apple Computer Inc., CA (NET-APPLE-WWNET)

so mammals.org is legit
 
Ugh, gimme a break. Oldest trick in the book. I bet steve just said: Send them a 'teaser' email so my reality distortion field is strengthened and keeps them salivating. Please....."talk to you soon". REALLY?
 
What has Apple to do with Mammals?

I'm thinking it was bought years ago for potential use in a marketing campaign that positions Windows PCs as dinosaurs. But they naver used it and just let it point to apple.com.

I don't remember if that was just speculation, but it makes sense to me.
 
I'm finally getting a bit excited about this. Personally I've been waiting for a Apple produced phone for YEARS. Anyways, about 2 years ago, I had to drop Cingular where I live, because the Service was just absolutely @#$#@$.
Dropped calls, no signal, missed calls etc etc. Switched to Verizon.

Anyways, I had a feeling Apple was going to go with Cingular on this deal. Which bummed me out at first. But anyways, I've come to learn that Cingular has done quite a bit of updating on the network here, and adding towers etc. So where before a Cingular phone would not work at my house, tested a friends Razor on Cingular service, and it was getting full signal at my house.

Time to start savin' my pennies for a new iPhone
 
It is about time.

It is about time we hear something from Apple regarding the iPhone even if what they say really has no new information. My take from this email (which I received in my inbox at 10:34 am) is that Apple may be releasing more information regarding the iPhone in the near future.

It would be nice to hear that the iPhone will have new features, or a longer batter life, or maybe the FCC has approved the phone. Come on Apple let us hear some real news.

BTW: in the disclaimer at the bottom of the email is this
"This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained."
 
Oh boy, my current phone is not going to be happy. It's gonna be bitchin around and squeezing out my money as long as it can. It's an old Nokia from 2002, still great for texting, but the battery only holds for 2 days on standby. Too bad I'll have to wait even longer here in Europe...
 
I'm kinds of suprised by the posts here. I thought for sure that people would interpret "June" to mean "Steve Jobs will surprise us atthe NAB Apple Event" :D
 
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