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Email from Apple- iPhone "Talk to you Soon"
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For what it's worth, Telus may be switching to GSM in the future.
Or there's always Roger's...
lol not soon enough!
And my mom works for Telus so I get her 20% discount on my bill AND I just signed up for 3 years last August *doh* So yeah, I'm kinda SOL for a while *sigh*
I think you'd be crazy not to believe that!
When the iPhone was announced, it made national and local news. There were tons of media coverage about the iPhone outside of the tech media.
See, phones like the Prada, and that Samsung one ... they get articles on Digg and Slashdot .. but the iPhone makes CNN, NBC ... and even random local stations like Eugene, OR in addition to Digg and Slashdot!
The media coverage for the iPhone announcement was HUGE. I was surprised that only 1 million signed up. I mean, geez, you don't have to like the iPhone, but you're crazy if you think people don't want it.
Still pretty lame to know it's going through Cingular (AT&T). EV-DO REV. A or it's worthless.
Does anybody know when Cingular (AT&T) is supposed to be updating their broadband?
Does anybody know when Cingular (AT&T) is supposed to be updating their broadband?
Correlation between iPhone release date and updates to Cingular's network, perhaps? Seems a great time for Cingular to kick off new network capabilities/features/etc.
Side note: do we know if at&t will keep the Cingular name or will it all be at&t?
More like "That gives you just enough time to figure out how much it's going to cost you to break your current contract."
Go!!
I misread the line at first, I thought it said "...just enough time to break your current phone."
No problem, I thought, I'll fling it down a stairway at the next opportunity.
Personally, a lot of the hype for me has worn off. When I first saw it, I thought wow I want one, but it's pricey. A bit later, I was like, ah, I can eat the cost. Now I don't know if I care because I've rationalized so many other things.
I understand why you pre-announce so far in advance - takes time to roll out, approvals, etc., it's not something you can surprise, and it's better to get phone buyers under contracts to wait before renewing.... But still, I just feel the hype is wearing thin, and an email teaser didn't do it for me.
Of course, if there's some new hidden function that just rocks, then I might be sold again (or be in that lusting I have to have it mode, without any rationalization that I don't need it).
I understand why you pre-announce so far in advance - takes time to roll out, approvals, etc., it's not something you can surprise, and it's better to get phone buyers under contracts to wait before renewing.... But still, I just feel the hype is wearing thin, and an email teaser didn't do it for me.
Of course, if there's some new hidden function that just rocks, then I might be sold again (or be in that lusting I have to have it mode, without any rationalization that I don't need it).
First, I disagree. The competition has released phones that are difficult and awkward to use and the features that are missing from the iPhone are the kind of henny-penny geekery that won't hold back sales, just as the lack of a FM radio on the iPod hasn't affected those sales.
Secondly, the iPhone will come with a smart marketing campaign which will help sell the phone's 'wow' features.
And thirdly, while most buyers are sensitive to market pricing, there are also thousands (if not millions) who won't mind spending a little more for a device they deal with every day. There are dozens of 'prestige' products that do very well even against supposed 'generic' competitors. Look at sales of the RAZR for just one example in the cellular phone market. Was the RAZR really a better phone that any Samsung clamshell? No. Did Motorola move a lot of those phones even a high initial price. Yes.
1 Million interested parties sounds like a correct number (I'm sure there are duplicates, but I'm also sure there are people who want an iPhone and didn't sign up) and if Apple can convert this kind of interest into sales they'll have a powerful entry into a tough market.
If by "complete copy" you mean "exactly like Apple iChat" with the basic functioning that IM has had for a decade, then yes
And it's great if the Blackberry has one feature also found in the iPhone. PowerBooks have had that for years.
None of this changes that the iPhone does what it does in a better and easier way. It actually IS different from what came before it--much as that upsets some parties.
No need to "remember" that other devices have done SOME form of the basic functions of the iPhone. It's a phone and Internet device and music player after all. It's not MEANT to perform some function nobody heard of before, it's meant to meet needs we already have.
Do they do what the iPhone does as WELL as the iPhone does? Not if user interface matters.
But we'll keep an eye open for those lawsuits
That's quite dramatic
So, is there any sign that Samsung or anyone else IS going to duplicate what makes an iPhone unique? You link to a 3rd-quarter product preview of something that doesn't exist yet. You say "if"--and I will accept that "if." That "if" affects every product on Earth: IF some competitor makes the same thing for less and markets it well, it could harm sales. I'm not sure how that detracts from the iPhone.I'm not sure whether you're predicting that the iPhone will be a flop or not. If you are, my prediction disagrees
Pretty slim chance I'd say--but I bet that WILL follow in a matter of months. 16 is the point at which I'm ready to buy myself.
its not about poo pooing, im often accused of being a fanboy, but the real problem with this is edge data. it is a deal killer... cingular GIVES AWAY, for FREE 3g phones with a new contract... as a treo 650 user i am desperate for something new, but the number one priority is faster data... this phone offers absolutely nothing new that my 4 year old cant do, and takes a few away (keyboard, open platform for developement, multitude of 3rd party apps)... i can live without some of those, but i'll be damned if im going to replace my 4 year old phone in 2007 for $600 with something that has no faster of a data connection, and takes other things AWAY!... i want to want an iPhone, but edge doesnt cut it... if you have used google maps on an edge connection you know what i mean
oh and one more thing.... you make a good point about them adding features, that would be great, but they cant add 3g data AFTER FCC approval... cannot happen.
Actually it DOES offer many new things that no other phone can do. They're just not things YOU want. Your priority is 3G, which is fine.
But people should not make the common mistake of assuming that what THEY want is what makes a product sell. Other people WILL appreciate the ease of use and features of the iPhone.
Maybe not, but they WILL add 3G, it's already been announced. They'll simply get FCC approval again.
I'd like to have 3G, but the amount of time I'd use it, given the WiFi option and the lack of 3G support in the US, would be small--and I can DO the same things (more slowly) without it. Si I'll wait for the 3G iPhone if pretty solid rumors arrive to say it won't be long. Otherwise, I'll just wait for 16 GB, and if 3G comes in time for me, then so be it.
It will come eventually for sure.
Not to mention, it has a smaller screen, lower res, black-and-white interface, no WiFi (!), tiny storage capacity (MicroSD!), no tilt/proximity/ambient light sensors, and of course no multitouch (oops, stray touches beware--no wonder it needs a bigger wasted margin around the outside that iPhone doesn't need). That leaves aside the software capabilities of the iPhone, from coverflow to realtime photo zooming to visual voicemail to visual tracking of multiple text sessions to REAL web browsing to iTunes integration to whatever else OS X in your pocket (with GB of storage and great graphics power) might come to allow.
And it costs $778
"Really nice" is in the eye of the beholder
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/lgs-ke850-prada-official-iphone-says-wha/
actually, its FREE in europe with an 18 month contract
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphone/lg-prada-free-with-contract-in-europe-available-now-248950.php
Still pretty lame to know it's going through Cingular (AT&T). EV-DO REV. A or it's worthless.
Does anybody know when Cingular (AT&T) is supposed to be updating their broadband?
umm cingular/at&t has had UMTS/HSDPA in major markets for some time now, its just that the iphone doesnt use it. Cingular gave my mom a 3g phone for free when she switched over to them in december and she has no idea what that means nor uses any of the features... apple using edge data on a $600 phone with contract in 2007 is ridiculous...
Nothing Leopard and new hardware won't 'fix.'
Too bad that won't be until June either.
I can't get an iPhone until they make one without a camera. No cameras allowed where I work, nor at pretty much any company in my whole industry. That was one of IT's excuses for not letting a co-worker get a MacBook Pro, too.
Then, maybe after I make my first million I'll be able to afford one.
That's good. That justifies the stuff it's lacking then. Except, of course, if the iPhone's $499 price turns out not to require a contract as pricey as the Prada contract. In which case, you're still paying for that Prada after all...
The question (which I don't think we can answer yet) is whether the iPhone's cost is REALLY $499, or $499 plus a monthly amount that inflates the AT&T plan. (We do know you're committed to staying an AT&T customer for a time, we just don't know the costs.)
The key here is "in major markets." Coverage is still very spotty for 3G in the US. Thus, it makes sense NOT to make the iPhone more expensive (and power-hungry?) by adding 3D when much of the time people can't use it. WiFi (which most other phones lack) is actually a pretty good trade--far superior, when you're at a hot spot.
3G will come, but it's hard to argue with the logic of leaving it out for the US launch.
http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/
9:42 has always has a reason.
Steve Jobs' MacWorld 2007 keynote began at 9:00am. He introduced the iPhone 42 minutes in. http://www.apple.com/iphone/keynote/
The original photos even had the date of the keynote, acting like a giant birth certificate. My guess for the change: "January" started looking like too old a date for a brand new ad campaign but thy didn't want to disrupt the iconic look of the screenshot too much.
Upon release, I expect it to change to June in all the ads, but the clock will still be 9:42.
Steve Jobs' MacWorld 2007 keynote began at 9:00am. He introduced the iPhone 42 minutes in. http://www.apple.com/iphone/keynote/
The original photos even had the date of the keynote, acting like a giant birth certificate. My guess for the change: "January" started looking like too old a date for a brand new ad campaign but thy didn't want to disrupt the iconic look of the screenshot too much.
Upon release, I expect it to change to June in all the ads, but the clock will still be 9:42.
If by "complete copy" you mean "exactly like Apple iChat" with the basic functioning that IM has had for a decade, then yes
And it's great if the Blackberry has one feature also found in the iPhone. PowerBooks have had that for years.
None of this changes that the iPhone does what it does in a better and easier way. It actually IS different from what came before it--much as that upsets some parties.
No need to "remember" that other devices have done SOME form of the basic functions of the iPhone. It's a phone and Internet device and music player after all. It's not MEANT to perform some function nobody heard of before, it's meant to meet needs we already have.
Do they do what the iPhone does as WELL as the iPhone does? Not if user interface matters.
But we'll keep an eye open for those lawsuits
"Does something well" is a matter of (fanboy) opinion, but intellectual property is a matter of fact and law. Apple should not really be trumpeting that they have filed 200 patents on the iPhone, because some of the long time players are sure to have patents/methodologies/technologies that Apple has "touched" with the device. It will be interesting to see what happens.
fair enough, but seriously wifi, though a cool feature, is no replacement for 3g... google maps is awesome on a mobile when you are in an unfamilliar city, but the need arises in the car, or at least out and about, and finding a wifi connection isnt an option at those times... when you have 3g and an unlimited connection why do you need wifi ever?? id personally rather they ditch the wifi card for a proper gps, or something... i know 3g will come, and i will buy an iphone as soon as it does, i cant wait, but in the mean time i just played with a samsung blackjack and its pretty sweet, and can be had for free with a contract
Certainly not (and vice versa). BOTH is what I want, ideally! Maps is exactly the reason I'd want that.
But that means I want 3G coverage nationwide... and if that's not gonna happen, then it's AT&T I fault, not the iPhone--and I won't wait for a 3G iPhone (at higher cost? larger size? lower talk time?) that I can seldom use as 3G.
Now, Apple could release a 3G version for those cities/countries that DO have it... and in fact, that's what Apple has already said they will do. We just don't know when.
You seem to understand the legalities better than Apple or I
I'll leave the name-calling to you, and continue my zany opinion that the iPhone "does things well."