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Macky-Mac said:
More recently roasted beans should certainly give you better results, but in your case, maybe your skill level with the newly purchased Flair58 had reached the desirable level? Every time I've looked at one of those machines, I've read comments saying it does indeed have a bit more of a learning curve.
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You can be right, but i tried alot with this so called beans you can buy in store thar has been in storage for long time, could Even make an espresso.

First attempt with fresh beans a good espresso, yes its a learning Curve, and its sometime hard to replicate the same espresso.

But Are those in store so bad?
 
DPH said:
You can be right, but i tried alot with this so called beans you can buy in store thar has been in storage for long time, could Even make an espresso.

First attempt with fresh beans a good espresso, yes its a learning Curve, and its sometime hard to replicate the same espresso.

But Are those in store so bad?
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Learning curve in the espresso counts a lot, and a lot more than 'espresso-ble'.
There’s so much to explore in this business. Takes a life time or a few to get some things.
How long have you been into doing espresso from whole beans?

If you think the freshness of the roasting serves you and your new machine, buy a bag of green beans.
They have a very very long storage time.
Then you can roast them on daily/weekly basis in a frying pan or in the oven, every other day/week or so. You decide.
I used to roast batches in the oven, but the backside or advantage is that you have a very distinct and lovely espresso smell everywhere for awhile.

Bad or good beans?
We can compare it to night and day and all weather conditions we have on earth.
I think coffee/espresso beans are comparable to that.

Then, we all have different preferences. Some we don’t even know before we have explored a long time.
Some like light roasted beans, some dark, and some in between. Some like beans from this and that part of the world, until we find something else we like more etc etc.

Ah well, espresso/coffee beans and the art of enjoying them are no less complicated then human relations in all its variety and complexity.

Enjoying a wonderful XXL espresso here before getting into a meditation afternoon/evening with my favorite very great teacher.
 
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DPH said:
You can be right, but i tried alot with this so called beans you can buy in store thar has been in storage for long time, could Even make an espresso.

First attempt with fresh beans a good espresso, yes its a learning Curve, and its sometime hard to replicate the same espresso.

But Are those in store so bad?
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I've read that beans are at their best 5 to 8 days after they've been roasted. Even in a vacuum-pack bag, they'll slowly loose some of their flavor qualities as time goes by. I've noticed that coffee companies will list a "best by" date that's as much as a year after the beans were roasted.......so there's definitely going to be some decline from their original quality.

Perhaps you've now reached the point where you appreciate the better flavor that's possible from fresh roasted beans?

From my own experience as an "espresso enthusiast", I know that enthusiasts tend to develop higher quality standards than the typical casual coffee drinker......this is a good thing in my opinion.
 
DPH said:
You can be right, but i tried alot with this so called beans you can buy in store thar has been in storage for long time, could Even make an espresso.

First attempt with fresh beans a good espresso, yes its a learning Curve, and its sometime hard to replicate the same espresso.

But Are those in store so bad?
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Rather than buying from a store, if at all possible, I would recommend that instead you buy your beans from a small coffee shop that will have imported good quality (and relatively recently roasted) beans from small, quality, artisan producers.
 
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Depending on where you live, there may be a roaster who sells their roast-to-order beans directly to local residents. And if there isn't one who's conveniently located, then there are also roasters available online who will provide you access to all sorts of interesting coffee, all roasted for you upon your order.
 
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Madhatter32 said:
Steve Jobs would not be happy about all this java talk on a Mac forum. Just saying.
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Nothing to do with coffee, but Bob Dylan tried to sue Apple for using the name "Dylan" for its (then new) programming language. They replied that it wasn't named after him, but after the somewhat more important Welsh poet, Dylan Thomas.

Boom tish...
 
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Madhatter32 said:
That's cold. Like ice coffee. I like it.
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I bet Apple had numerous 'things' going on regarding their own trademark in similar ways.
'It have nothing to with the company, it's about the fruit' and they can't trademark the fruit, only the name in a specific tech aspect. So they surely know.

Getting a hot espresso here, so I wake up before heading to the gym.
 
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DaveFromCampbelltown said:
Nothing to do with coffee, but Bob Dylan tried to sue Apple for using the name "Dylan" for its (then new) programming language. They replied that it wasn't named after him, but after the somewhat more important Welsh poet, Dylan Thomas.

Boom tish...
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Sipping my coffee and reading, awestruck and still marvelling at, the blistering and brilliant poem "And Death Shall Have No Dominion".

I first came across the poem in a book of poems, the poems of Dylan Thomas, which belonged to my mother, leafing through it one wet summer's day, when I was still at school.

My mother's copy of the works of Dylan Thomas was given to her as a treasured gift decades ago, by a Welsh friend, a teacher, who, when warmly inscribing it, insisted that she needed to be introduced to the wonderful work of Dylan Thomas.
 
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Lioness~ said:
I bet Apple had numerous 'things' going on regarding their own trademark in similar ways.
'It have nothing to with the company, it's about the fruit' and they can't trademark the fruit, only the name in a specific tech aspect. So they surely know.

Getting a hot espresso here, so I wake up before heading to the gym.
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For sure. I also know that they had a long legal battle in the 1980s-90s with the Beatles over the name "Apple" as Apple Records was the record label. Enjoy your java.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Sipping my coffee and reading, awestruck and still marvelling at, the blistering and brilliant poem "And Death Shall Have No Dominion".

I first came across the poem in a book of the poems, the poems of Dylan Thomas, which belonged to my mother, leafing through it one wet summer's day, when I was still at school.

My mother's copy of the works of Dylan Thomas was given to her as a treasured gift decades ago, by a Welsh friend, a teacher, who, when warmly inscribing it, insisted that she needed to be introduced to the wonderful work of Dylan Thomas.
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Wonderful. I can't wait for the commercial about T.S. Elliot although Joe Elliott from Def Leopard might object. I am a fan of his work -- T.S. more so than Joe but both were good.
 
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Madhatter32 said:
Wonderful. I can't wait for the commercial about T.S. Elliot although Joe Elliott from Def Leopard might object. I am a fan of his work -- T.S. more so than Joe but both were good.
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How anybody could go from "Prufrock" to "Wasteland" to "Murder in the Cathedral" to "Old Possum's book of Practical Cats" boggles my tiny little mind. It just shows Elliot's (T.S) unrivalled brilliance.
 
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Lioness~ said:
I bet Apple had numerous 'things' going on regarding their own trademark in similar ways.
'It have nothing to with the company, it's about the fruit' and they can't trademark the fruit, only the name in a specific tech aspect. So they surely know.

Getting a hot espresso here, so I wake up before heading to the gym.
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One of the sounds built in to the Classic Macs was called 'sosume'.
 
DaveFromCampbelltown said:
One of the sounds built in to the Classic Macs was called 'sosume'.
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So close to 'so sue me' 😐

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DaveFromCampbelltown said:
How anybody could go from "Prufrock" to "Wasteland" to "Murder in the Cathedral" to "Old Possum's book of Practical Cats" boggles my tiny little mind. It just shows Elliot's (T.S) unrivalled brilliance.
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Now, that is a serious selection - and agreed, an absolutely brilliant selection.

A school (poetry) text book included "Macavity The Mystery Cat" (which young teenaged me just loved); as an adult, on leave from one of the grim places where I worked at the time, I treated myself to an illustrated hardback copy of this wonderful work.

Mind you, "Prufrock" - an outstanding poem, simply superb - also featured in my school texts.

And yes, at school, we were also introduced to "Murder In The Cathedral" - excellent (when I was twelve, that title thrilled me, I thought, how exciting, wow, murder in a cathedral - and I remember my teacher remarking, dryly, "it's not quite what you think it is"), and "Wasteland".

Now, to prepare a coffee, but first, to replenish my organic milk, as I have almost run out.
 
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Mind you, "Prufrock" - an outstanding poem, simply superb - also featured in my school texts.
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Prufrock is one of my all time favorites and Elliot was brilliant, but not perfect. Note his critical mistake in the verse:

Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea coffee.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
 
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Madhatter32 said:
Prufrock is one of my all time favorites and Elliot was brilliant, but not perfect. Note his critical mistake in the verse:

Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea coffee.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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Dear me.

How could I have missed that arresting and compelling detail?

Now that you have drawn my attention to it, I cannot begin to understand how I over-looked it.
 
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DaveFromCampbelltown said:
Nothing to do with coffee, but Bob Dylan tried to sue Apple for using the name "Dylan" for its (then new) programming language. They replied that it wasn't named after him, but after the somewhat more important Welsh poet, Dylan Thomas.

Boom tish...
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Even better was when Apple code-named the dev builds of the PowerMac 7100 "Sagan". Carl Sagan got wind of it and actually filed a lawsuit, so Apple changed the internal code-name to BHA, for "Butt Head Astronomer".

When Carl Sagan sued Apple ... TWICE

In the early 90s, Apple began working on the Power Mac 7100, a product that was internally given the codename "Carl Sagan." The impetus behind the codename was a riff on Sagan's catchphrase "billions and billions", the implication being that the 7100 would go on to make Apple billions of...
www.engadget.com www.engadget.com

And the classic Mac alert sound was "Sosumi".
 
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