I don't know for sure, you may be right, but IIRC the ecg was enabled only in the US at first and then got activated later on in other regions (like the EU) with a software update.
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EU Provisionally Agrees on Law That Would Force Apple to Allow Alternative App Stores, Sideloading, and iMessage Interoperability
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That’s what I thought. Apple needs to give them the proverbial finger. I have no idea how things work over there but it seems the only way the eu makes money is fining rich tech companies.
Never will understand how a country can force a company to change its business model? Once again if I wanted to side load or a more unsecured smartphone I would be all over Samsung and android. I don’t nor do I need that. Apple, give them their blackmail money of $5,000,000,000 that seems to shut them up for a bit.
This legislation is hostile to well integrated software, hardware and services and will significantly hurt UX, privacy and security. It pains me to see it being passed. I guess we can't have good things.
This will most likely backfire spectacularly and cause all kinds of headaches for users and tech companies. I mean GDPR went great and I’m definitely not clicking away giant full screen boxes on half the websites I goto.
Why can’t we just have intelligent politicians? Or none.. that would be even better!
Why can’t we just have intelligent politicians? Or none.. that would be even better!
By law it would have to be the small players as well which means dozens if not hundreds of little-known messaging apps that iMessage would have to work with.
It was, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if you buy a watch in one of the countries where it’s still not enabled, even if you then go to a country where it is (let’s say the US) and set up your watch in the US with an account tied to the US, you won’t be able to use ECG.
Just saying, once again, it’s pretty ridiculous that MacRumors disables the “dislike” button on these threads. “Angry face” is not an appropriate reaction to a comment that’s just stupid and uninformed.
The enormous hole in this argument is that this isn't a problem on macOS or Windows, both operating systems where you've been able to use alternative app stores since the dawn of the internet - since before there was such a thing as official app stores, in fact.
I love to see this.
We need to start reigning in these big tech companies a bit and forcing some interoperability and more consumer friendly behaviors on their part.
We need to start reigning in these big tech companies a bit and forcing some interoperability and more consumer friendly behaviors on their part.
Take a step back and think about this.
1. This is a proposal.
2. This isn't about just Apple. This actually hits Google harder IMO.
The GDPR, and CCPA issue (in CA) could be resolved if there were a universal standard for which cookies a user might want to accept or reject. The user sets a preference in the browser, and passes it to the site. No need for annoying pop-ups, that often reappear on some sites just in case you might want to let them use your data. I doubt this would happen though.
Simple, with some creative accounting Apple can position themselves as below the mark. Let’s see, companies valued at under €75 billion don’t qualify, need to do some math here to convert dollars to Euros… looks like AAPL market cap is about… €2,576 billion ? So, some REALLY creative accounting!
This will definitely cause unintended consequences. I still hate the GDPR cookie nags everywhere.
These are the consequences of Apple, Facebook, etcs, own actions.
Most companies are smart enough to know that they need to self-regulate. They know that if you self-regulate, the government stays out of it and you can do a lot more than if they get involved.
Apple, in particular, showed nothing but contempt for... everything and everyone? Contempt for regulations, contempt for government, contempt for developers, and contempt for customers.
And so now Apple has successfully united the world against them and brought all these regulations down upon themselves from the EU.
This was such an atrocious business plan. Tim Cook has pretty successfully annihilated the Apple brand. Oh, Apple will keep bringing in massive amounts of money, don't get me wrong. But Apple is well on their way to competing with AT&T, Verizon and Comcast for the most hated brand. And the issue with being in that league is it makes growth very difficult. Apple can introduce all the new subscriptions, cars, and AR headsets they want - they'll be failures because few people trust Apple anymore.
yeah, Eu looks at all these US tech firms making billions and wants a piece of the pie. It would be like the US congress passing laws about French wine .... e.g. all expensive wines should be sellable in paper cartons to help the environment or Gucci bags should be made of synthetic leather to save the animals. Well meaning suggestions which are obviously out of step with reality - same for these bureaucrats having a go at Apple
Yes exactly. They meant to protect consumers and now we all deal with countless extra clicks every day.
In the EU and UK we all use Whatapp and 99.9% of Android owners don’t bother to use an alternate App Store or bother sideloading.
What a pointless law.
What a pointless law.
And you already have that choice, It is called buy an android phone.
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Spot on
Apple, if anything, has singlehandedly helped to continue "poking the bear"
You speak for everyone in the EU and UK?
All people in those jurisdictions do just what you do?
But you'd have to have some pre -installed software just to do that - how you going to get any options installed without some software to download and install it.
Not sure any of this really benefits users but it will make the politicians look good - to themselves.
So to install Microsoft apps, you first have to install the Microsoft app store.
To install Epic games, you have to first install the Epic app store.
To install Google apps, you first have to install the Google app store. This is what will happen. Every big software developer will have its own app store -- thereby circumventing any payment to Apple.
Or many apps will possibly have to be downloaded directly from the web -- and be paid for through various payment processors. So eventually Apple can only make money from hardware sales and from developers that remain on Apple app store, but the bigger app developers will surely leave the Apple app store. Apple will have to let users pay for system upgrades, like in the past, to cover developing costs -- right now the eco system pays for the system upgrades. Developers will have to pay more for Apple developer tools too.
Sure, it is not all bad because it gives consumers more choice. But the cost will be that the phone sphere will get more complex, no more easy install of apps, and the attack vector for malware will surely rise. In the end Apple should have been more proactive in lowering their commissions on iOS app store. They should have done that 10 years ago and then there would have been less problems. I love Apple to bits, but Apple has not been using their brains to foresee the future. Even Phil Schiller saw this coming and he suggested Apple should lower fees more than ten years ago (known from internal email exposed during Epic lawsuit).
To install Epic games, you have to first install the Epic app store.
To install Google apps, you first have to install the Google app store. This is what will happen. Every big software developer will have its own app store -- thereby circumventing any payment to Apple.
Or many apps will possibly have to be downloaded directly from the web -- and be paid for through various payment processors. So eventually Apple can only make money from hardware sales and from developers that remain on Apple app store, but the bigger app developers will surely leave the Apple app store. Apple will have to let users pay for system upgrades, like in the past, to cover developing costs -- right now the eco system pays for the system upgrades. Developers will have to pay more for Apple developer tools too.
Sure, it is not all bad because it gives consumers more choice. But the cost will be that the phone sphere will get more complex, no more easy install of apps, and the attack vector for malware will surely rise. In the end Apple should have been more proactive in lowering their commissions on iOS app store. They should have done that 10 years ago and then there would have been less problems. I love Apple to bits, but Apple has not been using their brains to foresee the future. Even Phil Schiller saw this coming and he suggested Apple should lower fees more than ten years ago (known from internal email exposed during Epic lawsuit).