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SirKeldon

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So I did a bit more research and it seems Apple is using Syncreon for the first leg from China to EINDHOVEN (NL). Once there DHL takes over and you can track the second leg to the destination. It usually takes 5 or 6 days from China to NL (!) and I found no way to track the Syncreon shipment.

There is a Syncreon tracking site here and I tried every possible combination of reference numbers with no luck: https://seal.syncreon.com/synview-o...ESSIONID=D70E6F26-674F-88B9-148C-83427CEC2480
I tried on Syncreon page as well, but "blind" as hell, it seems in this step you're gonna have to wait those 4-5 days to arrive to NL, and then 24-48h shipped to your house, it's a boomer, cause the SMS arrives just 24h-48h it happens, but no guarantees on those 4-5 days, nor from Apple and neither DHL.

A few messages ago I passed you the "parcel dhl tracking" from the NL page, for me, it was the most "accurate" and "real-time" one, despite of course, it showed no updates till the package arrive till the Netherlands.
 

md7

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Oct 8, 2016
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My tracking number is now working:

Shipment information received​

07. December 2021 11:34 Local time | Service Area: EINDHOVEN - NETHERLANDS, THE"

So it is still in China. Sender is ADI C/O SYNCREON

Same here, but two minutes earlier. Guess we will be on the same plane. But where did you see the sender?
 

micheloupatrick

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Dec 5, 2021
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Same shipment for me too and you’re right, sender is Syncreon. So I guess no update until saturday - monday.
 

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Horizon Man

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I ordered on Oct 21th and still waiting for the parcel (UPS). Apple store page shows ETA Dec 9th now.
Ordered on the 20th and still waiting. It's all on UPS now though.

Sat 5 days in Cologne, finally arrived in Helsinki this morning.
When I woke up delivery was set for today, and just a few minutes ago, changed to
"The delivery date will be provided as soon as possible."
Again.
To pour salt on the wound, Apple just sent an sms saying "Today is the day"
Not counting on it, but tomorrow for sure...
 

McSanta

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Dec 8, 2021
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To all who have posted before me, I would like to say a huge 'thank you' for keeping me sane, and alerting me to thae fact that I was not alone in constantly checking the Apple and UPS websites for status updates on my order. Here's a timeline of my experience so far, with a ray of hope in sight...

19th Nov. Ordered a 14" 10/16 M1 Pro with 32GB RAM
20th Nov. Stopped myself from buying a 16" 10/32 64GB RAM M1 Max (only model in stock at the time) at the Apple Store.
29th Nov. Got an email from Apple saying that it was on the way, estimated 6th Dec, with the all important link to UPS traclking.
1st Dec. Recieved an email from Apple with the receipt indicating they'd taken the money.
Apple and UPS websites indicated delivery on 2nd December, however UPS tracking showed no change after 10:12.
2nd Dec. Apple still maintaining delivery on 2nd Dec, but UPS indicated delivery on 3rd. Surprise... it didn't arrive.
3rd Dec. Apple changes delivery date to 'coming Soon'. UPS has delivery date as 3rd Dec. But no change on tracking status from 1st Dec 10:12. No surprise...it didn't arrive.
4th Dec. Apple website says 'Coming Soon'. UPS removes all delivery estimates.
5th-7th Dec. Still no change, no movement. Stopped myself from buying a 14" 10/16 M1 PRO 16GM RAM at the Apple Store (a friend suggested that 16GB RAM is fine for now but 32 would be much better). Found this post on macrumours.com and taught myself to check every 6 hours instead of every 6 minutes.

Today, 8th Dec. Woke up, checked the UPS status and to my surprise, my baby MBP had apparently left its creche in Shanghai, travelled to Incheon, and was now on its way to Cologne. Apple website says "Coming Soon". UPS tracking estimates delivery tomorrow.

Doing a little digging, it seems that at the time of writing, it's currently en-route over Kazakhstan, so keeping fingers crossed for a safe arrival. If it does show up, that would be just under 3 weeks. The killer for me was that they said it would arrive last week and then suddenly it wasn't without any status updates for another week. If you're in the same boat... resist the temptation of instant gratification of buying a lesser/over specc'd machine in the shop and take a breath o_O
 

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amasu

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Dec 3, 2021
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To all who have posted before me, I would like to say a huge 'thank you' for keeping me sane, and alerting me to thae fact that I was not alone in constantly checking the Apple and UPS websites for status updates on my order. Here's a timeline of my experience so far, with a ray of hope in sight...

19th Nov. Ordered a 14" 10/16 M1 Pro with 32GB RAM
20th Nov. Stopped myself from buying a 16" 10/32 64GB RAM M1 Max (only model in stock at the time) at the Apple Store.
29th Nov. Got an email from Apple saying that it was on the way, estimated 6th Dec, with the all important link to UPS traclking.
1st Dec. Recieved an email from Apple with the receipt indicating they'd taken the money.
Apple and UPS websites indicated delivery on 2nd December, however UPS tracking showed no change after 10:12.
2nd Dec. Apple still maintaining delivery on 2nd Dec, but UPS indicated delivery on 3rd. Surprise... it didn't arrive.
3rd Dec. Apple changes delivery date to 'coming Soon'. UPS has delivery date as 3rd Dec. But no change on tracking status from 1st Dec 10:12. No surprise...it didn't arrive.
4th Dec. Apple website says 'Coming Soon'. UPS removes all delivery estimates.
5th-7th Dec. Still no change, no movement. Stopped myself from buying a 14" 10/16 M1 PRO 16GM RAM at the Apple Store (a friend suggested that 16GB RAM is fine for now but 32 would be much better). Found this post on macrumours.com and taught myself to check every 6 hours instead of every 6 minutes.

Today, 8th Dec. Woke up, checked the UPS status and to my surprise, my baby MBP had apparently left its creche in Shanghai, travelled to Incheon, and was now on its way to Cologne. Apple website says "Coming Soon". UPS tracking estimates delivery tomorrow.

Doing a little digging, it seems that at the time of writing, it's currently en-route over Kazakhstan, so keeping fingers crossed for a safe arrival. If it does show up, that would be just under 3 weeks. The killer for me was that they said it would arrive last week and then suddenly it wasn't without any status updates for another week. If you're in the same boat... resist the temptation of instant gratification of buying a lesser/over specc'd machine in the shop and take a breath o_O

Hi,

Mine was delivered this morning (UPS) after it reached Cologne yesterday evening.
This was my first exp buying on the Apple store and I would say there is a room for improvement in term of communication :p

Anyway once it leaves Incheon it should just be a matter of 1/2 days.
 
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McSanta

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Hi,

Mine was delivered this morning (UPS) after it reached Cologne yesterday evening.
This was my first exp buying on the Apple store and I would say there is a room for improvement in term of communication :p

Anyway once it leaves Incheon it should just be a matter of 1/2 days.
Fingers crossed?

Seems like a 4 hour difference (you mentioned your stuck update was 1st Dec 06:03 to my 10.12) leads to 1 day difference in delivery time. Makes me think how big that warehouse space in Shanghai must be.

My big question to you is, was it worth the wait??
 

robPOD

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Hi,

I ordered a MBP 16" (Silver) M1 Max, 32GPU, 64GB Ram, 8TB (yes fully loaded haha), on the 4th of November, my delivery window is Dec 6-13th, I received a message from DHL on Monday saying they have picked in up in Shanghai and its due for delivery this Friday to the UK, I cannot wait. I am upgrading my trusty 15" 2014 MBP.

Thanks!
 

psykeman

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Nov 4, 2021
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Same shipment for me too and you’re right, sender is Syncreon. So I guess no update until saturday - monday.
Did your estimated delivery date get updated to 10pm today too? There’s no movement on the tracking page that @carlob linked but that date shows up when clicking on the „track order“ button of the Apple Store App.

Pretty unlikely that the estimate is true since DHL hasn‘t even picked up the parcels yet but the possibility of this laptop finally being within my reach after lurking these shipping threads for months is a relief?
 
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kooper96

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Did your estimated delivery date get updated to 10pm today too? There’s no movement on the tracking page that @carlob linked but that date shows up when clicking on the „track order“ button of the Apple Store App.

Pretty unlikely that the estimate is true since DHL hasn‘t even picked up the parcels yet but the possibility of this laptop finally being within my reach after lurking these shipping threads for months is a relief?
My order was through DHL as well and my tracking changed to delivery by today at 10 pm too... I actually ended up calling both Apple and DHL to make sure it was a fluke, and, just as you mentioned, DHL ensured me they hadn't picked up the package and said "our software is programmed to do this automatically" ?‍♂️ pretty stupid if you ask me to just start slapping delivery dates...

seems like we're in the same boat as well, since I ordered the exact same laptop as you (Silver 16", 10/32/64GB/1TB US keyboard) on the same exact day to the same country ? (saw your entry on the shared spreadsheet)
 
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SirKeldon

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Well guys, my waiting game seemed to fast to be true, my unit had a screen defect, I've been lucky though, after going to Genius Bar and trying him to solve the problem, it persisted and I didn't feel satisfied TBH, and since my unit was personally configured and within the exchange period, I can opt for a replacement w/o having to return them the laptop till the new one arrives.



This "replacement" process is carried only via UPS, and as far as he told me, it has preference over the regular orders, he also told me about two weeks ... but in the orders page it appears "Arrives 31 Dec - 10 Jan" ... so here we are again tracking addicts, I'm back and this time with a diff carrier :D



To avoid irritating with an off-topic, the whole story is under this spoiler, so if you are concerned with your new (or arriving one) XDR screen, definitely you should read (TL;DR - be careful if your screen shows residue/non glare spots, possibly it has coating issues, and definitely not the right materials to clean it can make it worst, even if it comes from an Apple Genius!!!)



I spotted the issue yesterday, a different glare on the whole right border near to the bezel, checked with iPhone torch, and yes, pretty wide smudge areas // nor reflecting any light, I started to panic, this morning under sunlight it was even more noticeable, a two-color shade, one black and the smudgy tending to blue, so I really started to be afraid.


Reserved an appointment at Genius Bar and told him the problem, he sees it and asks the obvious: "did you clean it or wipe it any way?" and of course my response was: "I wouldn't dare, ordered the official cloth the next day I got the laptop cause Apple advises (more on this later) to clean it just with that one, I didn't, that's why I came here first", so guys (special mention to @J.Gallardo here), reality really stands over fiction, the "I ordered it just for the laughs" and "I'll go to the Genius Bar to make them clean it" joke posts I made some days ago turns to be mandatory IMHO, here's why.



I continue "maybe there's some grease or some residue and no real problem, but as I told you, I'm not gonna risk to ruin it by not following official guidelines", right after, he grabs an ordinary micro-fiber cloth (not the glasses type, but the cleaning one though “softer” and I just literally freak out but he is a Genius right?) and wipes the affected part of the screen, torch again and seems to remove some residue, but leaves marks on the same spots, tried a second and third time and while clearly the residue was leaving, some parts were refusing to shine again, even more than the ones originally affected (he wrote that at the official, smudgy/matte marks on the right side of the screen which cleaning them didn't help to solve the problem)


In that moment, I ask politely for solutions, cause I'm within the exchange period and clearly I'm not satisfied with this scenario, it’s not just purely cosmetic, it affects visibility on certain light conditions, and possibly, if this is a coating issue, it will continue and get worse, and the laptop is too pricey for this, Genius agrees with me. Tells me that replacing/repairing the screen given I'm in this period is absurd, so he tells me to try to exchange it with this "replacement program" given my one is non a BTO model, and as mentioned before, it is on motion.



And now more on the "cleaning" methods, when he's over I told to him that he didn't do what Apple recommends to do in a 100%, cause XDR displays according to its official page must be just cleaned with the cloth included and no other, what's funny is this page just mentions "Pro Retina XDR Display" and "iMac Pro", the Macbook Pro 14 & 16 is not referred in any way (maybe cause it doesn't includes cloth by default) In another section of official Apple cleaning guidelines though, regarding Displays on MBPs, just stands for "Dampen a soft, lint-free cloth with water only, then use it to clean the computer's screen" which is confusing and contradictory information, and of course, I can guess it's an XDR display, but it should be mentioned cause if not, this can be really dangerous to users that don't read as intense as I do. I told him all of that too.


Why I am even mentioning this? Cause the Apple Genius did a thing that made me freak out, not following Apple Specific Guidelines, and more than possibly, my unit was already with some kind of coating problem, but also, maybe, just maybe, he made it worst by cleaning it with this kind of cloth … so really beware with these kind of screens, they really seem very fragile, or maybe it was just a bad experience, but I kinda read some similar situations regarding this issue. I’ll tell you more about it when the new one arrives, hope the official cloth has also arrived by that time …

PS: Should I wrote a post regarding this? Thanks if you have read till here ;)
 
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amasu

macrumors newbie
Dec 3, 2021
21
5
Bruxelles, Belgique
Well guys, my waiting game seemed to fast to be true, my unit had a screen defect, I've been lucky though, after going to Genius Bar and trying him to solve the problem, it persisted and I didn't feel satisfied TBH, and since my unit was personally configured and within the exchange period, I can opt for a replacement w/o having to return them the laptop till the new one arrives.



This "replacement" process is carried only via UPS, and as far as he told me, it has preference over the regular orders, he also told me about two weeks ... but in the orders page it appears "Arrives 31 Dec - 10 Jan" ... so here we are again tracking addicts, I'm back and this time with a diff carrier :D



To avoid irritating with an off-topic, the whole story is under this spoiler, so if you are concerned with your new (or arriving one) XDR screen, definitely you should read (TL;DR - be careful if your screen shows residue/non glare spots, possibly it has coating issues, and definitely not the right materials to clean it can make it worst, even if it comes from an Apple Genius!!!)



I spotted the issue yesterday, a different glare on the whole right border near to the bezel, checked with iPhone torch, and yes, pretty wide smudge areas // nor reflecting any light, I started to panic, this morning under sunlight it was even more noticeable, a two-color shade, one black and the smudgy tending to blue, so I really started to be afraid.


Reserved an appointment at Genius Bar and told him the problem, he sees it and asks the obvious: "did you clean it or wipe it any way?" and of course my response was: "I wouldn't dare, ordered the official cloth the next day I got the laptop cause Apple advises (more on this later) to clean it just with that one, I didn't, that's why I came here first", so guys (special mention to @J.Gallardo here), reality really stands over fiction, the "I ordered it just for the laughs" and "I'll go to the Genius Bar to make them clean it" joke posts I made some days ago turns to be mandatory IMHO, here's why.



I continue "maybe there's some grease or some residue and no real problem, but as I told you, I'm not gonna risk to ruin it by not following official guidelines", right after, he grabs an ordinary micro-fiber cloth (not the glasses type, but the cleaning one though “softer” and I just literally freak out but he is a Genius right?) and wipes the affected part of the screen, torch again and seems to remove some residue, but leaves marks on the same spots, tried a second and third time and while clearly the residue was leaving, some parts were refusing to shine again, even more than the ones originally affected (he wrote that at the official, smudgy/matte marks on the right side of the screen which cleaning them didn't help to solve the problem)


In that moment, I ask politely for solutions, cause I'm within the exchange period and clearly I'm not satisfied with this scenario, it’s not just purely cosmetic, it affects visibility on certain light conditions, and possibly, if this is a coating issue, it will continue and get worse, and the laptop is too pricey for this, Genius agrees with me. Tells me that replacing/repairing the screen given I'm in this period is absurd, so he tells me to try to exchange it with this "replacement program" given my one is non a BTO model, and as mentioned before, it is on motion.



And now more on the "cleaning" methods, when he's over I told to him that he didn't do what Apple recommends to do in a 100%, cause XDR displays according to its official page must be just cleaned with the cloth included and no other, what's funny is this page just mentions "Pro Retina XDR Display" and "iMac Pro", the Macbook Pro 14 & 16 is not referred in any way (maybe cause it doesn't includes cloth by default) In another section of official Apple cleaning guidelines though, regarding Displays on MBPs, just stands for "Dampen a soft, lint-free cloth with water only, then use it to clean the computer's screen" which is confusing and contradictory information, and of course, I can guess it's an XDR display, but it should be mentioned cause if not, this can be really dangerous to users that don't read as intense as I do. I told him all of that too.


Why I am even mentioning this? Cause the Apple Genius did a thing that made me freak out, not following Apple Specific Guidelines, and more than possibly, my unit was already with some kind of coating problem, but also, maybe, just maybe, he made it worst by cleaning it with this kind of cloth … so really beware with these kind of screens, they really seem very fragile, or maybe it was just a bad experience, but I kinda read some similar situations regarding this issue. I’ll tell you more about it when the new one arrives, hope the official cloth has also arrived by that time …

PS: Should I wrote a post regarding this? Thanks if you have read till here ;)
Thank you for sharing your xp.
Now you get me paranoid about the screen :D

I am a bit confused though reading your spoiler. What is the best way to clean the screen at the end of the story ?
 

amasu

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Dec 3, 2021
21
5
Bruxelles, Belgique
Fingers crossed?

Seems like a 4 hour difference (you mentioned your stuck update was 1st Dec 06:03 to my 10.12) leads to 1 day difference in delivery time. Makes me think how big that warehouse space in Shanghai must be.

My big question to you is, was it worth the wait??
My initial ETA was Nov 25th to Dec 2.
Then no ETA ... :D
Then 6th Dec.
And this morning both Apple and UPS were notifying of a delivery within the day.

"Was it worth it": Well hard to answer your question in an objective and complete way at the moment. I've just played with it a couple of hours, installed few things... The screen is gorgeous! But that makes me a bit nervous and paranoid as I assume it's also very fragile :s

I am hard "Linuxeer". It's my first Mac OS device so first thing I did when discovering the beast is to open a Terminal :D I was a bit disappointed when I found no package manager but brew provides a very elegant alternative to Aptitude or Yum. The GUI of the OS is a bit confusing for me as I am not yet used to it, but it seems intuitive enough to not be as much disturbing after few minutes, as it is intimidating at the beginning. Most of the tools I usually use exist in macOS ecosystem, but I have to admit I did check that before cashing in ;)
The device in itself feels good in hand, the external design is well studied to be balanced between discreet and elegant. I will probably miss the presence of an USB Type A port but that's no big deal.

I am looking forward to push a bit the M1 Max to it's limit with DL model training and Dockerization to compare with my Desktop PC and to do some benchmarking with current gear on the market... However it's a very good first contact and I don't think I will be disappointed with my expectations.

Good luck getting yours fast! Also let us know what you think of it when you get it :)
 
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SirKeldon

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Thank you for sharing your xp.
Now you get me paranoid about the screen :D

I am a bit confused though reading your spoiler. What is the best way to clean the screen at the end of the story ?
Thanks to you, you took the effort to read that "wall of text" my friend! And so sorry for giving you a concern, I hadn't it and I was calm cause the number of issues was not that high, what started as a "joke" turned to be a real nightmare. At least for the moment it's still not a so-sad story, let's see how it evolves.

Regarding the cleaning method, IDK, personally I have followed Apple XDR guidelines by not wiping it w/o the official cloth, Genius clearly didn't, though that page doesn't refer to our MBPs as mentioned so nothing to blame to him for trying. I'm gonna stick with this "XDR cleaning protocol" on the new one given the facts, TBH, I didn't dare to wipe the screen before, now even less, cause as mentioned, the non-glare spots after Apple intervention increased.

I'm gonna wait for the replacement and cross fingers for the "Mighty Polishing Cloth" to arrive before.
 

micheloupatrick

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Dec 5, 2021
37
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Did your estimated delivery date get updated to 10pm today too? There’s no movement on the tracking page that @carlob linked but that date shows up when clicking on the „track order“ button of the Apple Store App.

Pretty unlikely that the estimate is true since DHL hasn‘t even picked up the parcels yet but the possibility of this laptop finally being within my reach after lurking these shipping threads for months is a relief?
I just checked and delivery date is still Dec. 14, nothing has changed.
 

kinchee87

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I've now entered the waiting room for DHL shipments:

Ordered: 14", silver, max, 10 CPU, 24 GPU, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD

Timeline:
  • 26 Nov: Placed my order. Estimated delivery between 10–17 Dec
  • 3 Dec: Credit card charged
  • 7 Dec: Order prepared for shipping
  • 9 Dec: Order shipped (15 Dec estimated delivery)
  • 10 Dec: Invoice (dated 8 Dec) received
  • 13 Dec: DHL message for 15 Dec estimated delivery is received
  • 14 Dec: DHL estimated delivery updated to 14 Dec
  • 15 Dec: Original estimated delivery
On the Apple-provided DHL (Track & Trace Express) website, I can only find basic information. Is there a way to get more detailed information?

Service Area: EINDHOVEN - NETHERLANDS, THE --> Service Area: NUERNBERG - GERMANY
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carlob

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I think it is ridiculous that according to the official Apple guidelines you should only use the Apple polishing cloth to clean the XDR screen and the cloth is not included. You have to buy one separately (and wait another 6-8 weeks - does the cloth include a chip? I don't think so). The machine I have been waiting for since end of October is a 4,5K Euro laptop, I think that Apple could afford to include a freacking 15 Euro cloth with it.
 
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carlob

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On the Apple-provided DHL (Track & Trace Express) website, I can only find basic information. Is there a way to get more detailed information?
The short answer is no. There is no way to track the shipment from China to DHL Eindhoven because is a bulk shipment handled by Syncreon. Once your computer arrives at the DHL deposit (5-6 days from the shipment date, so in your case check back around Dicember 13) you will see that your DHL tracking will start to move (usually 2 days to your home from the moment DHL gets it).

You can use this page but the info is pretty much the same, DHL has no info they only received the shipping documents but the actual laptop is in transit from China and that leg is not handled by them: https://www.dhlparcel.nl/en/consumer/track-and-trace
 
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kinchee87

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The short answer is no. There is no way to track the shipment from China to DHL Eindhoven because is a bulk shipment handled by Syncreon. Once your computer arrives at the DHL deposit (5-6 days from the shipment date, so in your case check back around Dicember 13) you will see that your DHL tracking will start to move (usually 2 days to your home from the moment DHL gets it).

You can use this page but the info is pretty much the same, DHL has no info they only received the shipping documents but the actual laptop is in transit from China and that leg is not handled by them: https://www.dhlparcel.nl/en/consumer/track-and-trace
Thanks for the insight!
 

kinchee87

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I think it is ridiculous that according to the official Apple guidelines you should only use the Apple polishing cloth to clean the XDR screen and the cloth is not included. You have to buy one separately (and wait another 6-8 weeks - does the cloth include a chip? I don't think so). The machine I have been waiting for since end of October is a 4,5K Euro laptop, I think that Apple could afford to include a freacking 15 Euro cloth with it.
Isn’t the special microfibre cloth only needed for the nano textured glass of the desktop displays?
 
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carlob

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Isn’t the special microfibre cloth only needed for the nano textured glass of the desktop displays?
Was under the impression that was needed for all the XDR displays but probably you are right, only for the ones with nano texture glass.
 
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22.11 ordered to Austria
01.12. shipped
06.12 got 3 text messages that its coming next day
07.12 arrived to my city, but local DHL screwed up delivery even though I got 2 more text messages that its coming that day
08.12 deliver around 13:00
 
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