Every Apple Watch band Apple released. Ever.

[emiaj]

@PeterJH3 I have every official Sport band ever made (except some of the gold/rose gold, etc. pin combinations on the standard colors bundled with watches). I have some duplicates (I was poor at tracking my collection early on), let me know what you're missing and I might have spares.

EDIT: Here's model # for the Black/Black pin band missing from your excellent list below: MNJ82AM/A

I'm working on getting the # for:
Gray
Rose Red
Soft White
Dark Olive
Ultra Violet
Blue Cobalt


[doublepost=1506224054][/doublepost]@PeterJH3 Thank you for pointing this out! I will order it and take comparison photos.


[doublepost=1506224250][/doublepost]Thank you @emiaj! You are my (new) hero.

While @choreographics excellent start on this project inspired me to start collecting all the (42mm) bands, I always felt that he should have open sourced it because this is not a 'one man' controlled project. Because inevitably become out of date. It should be a crowd sourced effort. So THANK YOU for taking this on. I am happy to help on the Hermes bands 38mm vs 42mm differentiation. As someone else I think pointed out, it would be AWESOME to show which bands came in 38mm vs 42mm. For example, the Single Tour in Etain Swift was publicized as both 42mm and 38mm but I cannot find an actual record of it on Apple's website for 42mm (using the Internet Time machine archive).


[doublepost=1506225323][/doublepost]@emiaj @the future @cambookpro I can definitively say that there was a "Bright Blue" and "Midnight Blue" as I have both. I am literally looking at the box that says Bright Blue on it It looks like this (not my photo). FYI the color difference is VERY slight, barely noticeable - which is why I think Apple quietly corrected the name to "Midnight Blue" without any publicity; I would not describe it as 'bright'.

Wow! That’s an amazing collection!

I’ll check the availability history of the Hermes bands again, and if there’s any mistakes, I will post an update soon.

Thank you so much for confirming the details!

 

[applewatchcollector]

Thank you I don’t see any mistakes, what I was suggesting was figuring out a way to distinguish on your chart if a band was released for 38, 42 or 38/42. It will be useful historical reference to know which bands came in what sizes. This really only affects the Modern Buckle and Hermes bands as far as I know.

Wow! That’s an amazing collection!

I’ll check the availability history of the Hermes bands again, and if there’s any mistakes, I will post an update soon.

Thank you so much for confirming the details!

 

[emiaj]

Thank you I don’t see any mistakes, what I was suggesting was figuring out a way to distinguish on your chart if a band was released for 38, 42 or 38/42. It will be useful historical reference to know which bands came in what sizes. This really only affects the Modern Buckle and Hermes bands as far as I know.

Actually, the availability of the bands for 38/42mm is already on the chart.
Most bands come with both 38/42mm, with the exception of Modern Buckle, Leather Loop and some Hermes bands. On the title of each band, the size availability is displayed.
The only case that a type of band is available in both sizes but some certain colors are only available in one size is Hermes Single Tour, and it's tagged like this for now:

Maybe it's not clear enough, but I need to find a way to make this info more visible. I may change some design details in the next update.
Thanks for the suggestions!

 

[applewatchcollector]

You are amazing. Yes, I missed it - sorry (was looking at it on tiny iPhone).

Your attention to detail is EXACTLY what it takes to get a project of this size so accurate. Your work is going to be invaluable to future collectors and historians. I cannot thank you (and @choreographics who took the initiative on this) enough.

If I can be of help in any way, with model numbers, etc. let me know. I essentially have ALL 42mm bands ever released, with the exception of i) 3 of the Hermes bands (work in progress...) ii) some of the gold/rose gold pin variations (also working on it...) and iii) majority of the Olympics bands (alas, they are either impossible to find today or going for ridiculous $500 prices).

EDIT 1: Have you ever seen a photo of the Hermes Etain Swift 42mm? Publicized by various blogs e.g. http://mashable.com/2016/04/08/apple-watch-hermes-bands/#bklnBMITvGqC I do not believe it exists. I am trying to source the original press release that these blog posts would have originated from.

EDIT 2: This is an official Apple image https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.c...04/hermes-bands-single-cuff.jpg?itok=YXE7lwkB

The Bleu Paon and Blanc only appear as 38mm. Are you aware that they were later released as 42mm? I do not believe they were... For example, I can't find a single reference to a 42mm Bleu Paon anywhere on the internet (apart from those blog posts above, which I believe to be erroneously published); but if I search for 38mm I get an official Apple page: https://imgur.com/a/6JUgm

Actually, the availability of the bands for 38/42mm is already on the chart.
Most bands come with both 38/42mm, with the exception of Modern Buckle, Leather Loop and some Hermes bands. On the title of each band, the size availability is displayed.
The only case that a type of band is available in both sizes but some certain colors are only available in one size is Hermes Single Tour, and it's tagged like this for now:
View attachment 720962
Maybe it's not clear enough, but I need to find a way to make this info more visible. I may change some design details in the next update.
Thanks for the suggestions!

 

[pcall1128]

You are amazing. Yes, I missed it - sorry (was looking at it on tiny iPhone).

Your attention to detail is EXACTLY what it takes to get a project of this size so accurate. Your work is going to be invaluable to future collectors and historians. I cannot thank you (and @choreographics who took the initiative on this) enough.

If I can be of help in any way, with model numbers, etc. let me know. I essentially have ALL 42mm bands ever released, with the exception of i) 3 of the Hermes bands (work in progress...) ii) some of the gold/rose gold pin variations (also working on it...) and iii) majority of the Olympics bands (alas, they are either impossible to find today or going for ridiculous $500 prices).

EDIT 1: Have you ever seen a photo of the Hermes Etain Swift 42mm? Publicized by various blogs e.g. http://mashable.com/2016/04/08/apple-watch-hermes-bands/#bklnBMITvGqC I do not believe it exists. I am trying to source the original press release that these blog posts would have originated from.

EDIT 2: This is an official Apple image https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.c...04/hermes-bands-single-cuff.jpg?itok=YXE7lwkB

The Bleu Paon and Blanc only appear as 38mm. Are you aware that they were later released as 42mm? I do not believe they were... For example, I can't find a single reference to a 42mm Bleu Paon anywhere on the internet (apart from those blog posts above, which I believe to be erroneously published); but if I search for 38mm I get an official Apple page: https://imgur.com/a/6JUgm

I can verify that the Hermes Etain single tour does exist/was real. I remember when it came out-and when it sold out. Below I’ve posted photos from the forum, they were posted by anthonymoody.

 

[emiaj]

You are amazing. Yes, I missed it - sorry (was looking at it on tiny iPhone).

Your attention to detail is EXACTLY what it takes to get a project of this size so accurate. Your work is going to be invaluable to future collectors and historians. I cannot thank you (and @choreographics who took the initiative on this) enough.

If I can be of help in any way, with model numbers, etc. let me know. I essentially have ALL 42mm bands ever released, with the exception of i) 3 of the Hermes bands (work in progress...) ii) some of the gold/rose gold pin variations (also working on it...) and iii) majority of the Olympics bands (alas, they are either impossible to find today or going for ridiculous $500 prices).

EDIT 1: Have you ever seen a photo of the Hermes Etain Swift 42mm? Publicized by various blogs e.g. http://mashable.com/2016/04/08/apple-watch-hermes-bands/#bklnBMITvGqC I do not believe it exists. I am trying to source the original press release that these blog posts would have originated from.

EDIT 2: This is an official Apple image https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.c...04/hermes-bands-single-cuff.jpg?itok=YXE7lwkB

The Bleu Paon and Blanc only appear as 38mm. Are you aware that they were later released as 42mm? I do not believe they were... For example, I can't find a single reference to a 42mm Bleu Paon anywhere on the internet (apart from those blog posts above, which I believe to be erroneously published); but if I search for 38mm I get an official Apple page: https://imgur.com/a/6JUgm

Thank you so much for the detailed info and your kind words!

I checked the web archive, indeed, the Blanc and Bleu Paon Single Tour Bands were only available in 38mm.

But I couldn't find any info about the Etain Swift Single Tour Band. The news said that these bands were available starting from 19 Apr 2016, but the web archive doesn't have the page cached in that day. At the cached version of the webpage on 22 Apr 2016, it's already not there. Also, the intro of that band never mentioned the Etain color. Maybe it wasn't available through Apple's website? I'll check more source to see if there's a product image of that. If it could be found somewhere, I'll upload an updated version soon.

About the model numbers, I've been trying a few designs to add this info somewhere. For now, there's not enough space around the thumbnails of each band. I'd have to change the layout a little. I'm sure these model numbers will be added in a future version.

 

[RadioGaGa1984]

Love the muted colours...which Apple watch do you pair these with?

Sorry so late. I was put in the corner.
I pair with the SS

 

[applewatchcollector]

Thank you for this info. I stand corrected - though there is still not a single photo of it (official or otherwise) to be found in Google Images, which is super weird.

I can verify that the Hermes Etain single tour does exist/was real. I remember when it came out-and when it sold out. Below I’ve posted photos from the forum, they were posted by anthonymoody.

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Thank you so much for the detailed info and your kind words!

I checked the web archive, indeed, the Blanc and Bleu Paon Single Tour Bands were only available in 38mm.

But I couldn't find any info about the Etain Swift Single Tour Band. The news said that these bands were available starting from 19 Apr 2016, but the web archive doesn't have the page cached in that day. At the cached version of the webpage on 22 Apr 2016, it's already not there. Also, the intro of that band never mentioned the Etain color. Maybe it wasn't available through Apple's website? I'll check more source to see if there's a product image of that. If it could be found somewhere, I'll upload an updated version soon.

About the model numbers, I've been trying a few designs to add this info somewhere. For now, there's not enough space around the thumbnails of each band. I'd have to change the layout a little. I'm sure these model numbers will be added in a future version.

Thank you for this detailed and well researched reply! I have myself checked with the Internet Archive version of the Hermes band page on the Hermes website but it just redirects. So yes, perhaps like the Equateur Single Tour it was sold by Hermes directly.

http://usa.hermes.com/watches/apple-watch-hermes-straps/band-apple-watch-simple-tour-42-98805.html

As for model numbers, I think they can go into a spreadsheet. I agree that they are unnecessary and would clutter up the layout. I have started to manually enter the model numbers from the boxes I have and intend to open source it on Google Docs.

BTW long time ago I recall a thread on Reddit where some guys had started a spreadsheet of model numbers for actual Watch releases. Would you happen to have come across it or have it? Reason I ask is now I am on the hunt for the various Gold/Rose Gold pin variations of Sport and Woven Nylon bands, which would require sourcing the actual Watch models they came with.

Lastly for now, it appears you/we need a distinction between Edition Gold and Edition Rose Gold Sport bands and standard ones that came with Aluminum Watches because I looked at your chart and spent half an hour looking for a White Sport with Gold pin before I realized it was for the Edition

 

[adm58]

This is great. I'm so glad we have this.

There are a few bands still shown for Fall 2017 that are no longer for sale:

• Black Sport Band w/ Silver Stainless Steel Pin
• Soft Pink Modern Buckle

Furthermore, these spring/summer bands are still on sale but I believe they'll be dropped once inventory is sold through:

• Camellia Sport Band
• Azure Sport Band
• Mist Blue Sport Band
• Pebble Sport Band
• Berry Stripe Woven Nylon
• Red Stripe Woven Nylon
• Orange Stripe Woven Nylon
• Pollen Stripe Woven Nylon
• Tahoe Blue Stripe Woven Nylon

 

[Brookzy]

This is a fantastic project. I was actually half way into it myself over the summer (attached) but I was scuppered by literally running out of space in the software I was using, so when new bands came out, I would have to start from scratch!

I was also wondering if you were interested in the key system that I used to designate hardware colours and sizes, because I saw a few posts up that you were wondering how to indicate that a specific band only came in one size.



I also know that you already indicate hardware colours but I attached PNGs of Apple's representations of the pins (and the size designation icons) in case you thought they were of any use to you compared with the solid colours used at present.

Once this season is done and dusted and we can be sure that the poster is complete (for now!) it would be great if you could post a high resolution PDF so that I can print it in large format and have it framed on my wall.
[doublepost=1507050103][/doublepost]

This is great. I'm so glad we have this.

There are a few bands still shown for Fall 2017 that are no longer for sale:

• Black Sport Band w/ Silver Stainless Steel Pin
• Soft Pink Modern Buckle

Furthermore, these spring/summer bands are still on sale but I believe they'll be dropped once inventory is sold through:

• Camellia Sport Band
• Azure Sport Band
• Mist Blue Sport Band
• Pebble Sport Band
• Berry Stripe Woven Nylon
• Red Stripe Woven Nylon
• Orange Stripe Woven Nylon
• Pollen Stripe Woven Nylon
• Tahoe Blue Stripe Woven Nylon

Good spot on the Sport Band and Modern Buckle.

Regarding sell-through, this is an issue because availability differs by region and by size. I assume for this project US availability is being considered.

 

[PeterJH3]

I'm confused this morning. I am searching for a Midnight Blue Sport band to replace mine I gave to a friend a while back. The old model number is MLL02ZM/A. I came across this today: MQ3T2AM/A. Any info?? -- UPDATE: I THOUGHT the old model number was the MLL one...but that exists on the current hidden URL on the Apple Store online today. Maybe MQ3T is the old one when Midnight Blue first came out? Are they different hues I wonder?

 

[Brookzy]

I'm confused this morning. I am searching for a Midnight Blue Sport band to replace mine I gave to a friend a while back. The old model number is MLL02ZM/A. I came across this today: MQ3T2AM/A. Any info?? -- UPDATE: I THOUGHT the old model number was the MLL one...but that exists on the current hidden URL on the Apple Store online today. Maybe MQ3T is the old one when Midnight Blue first came out? Are they different hues I wonder?

This piqued my interest and I've been spending the last few hours researching it!

Turns out that the same thing happened with a few other colours that have been available consistently, e.g. white and black. There doesn't seem to be a difference in the actual strap. I think it may be that the packaging changed. I remember straps destined for the US market had tabs added to the packaging for hanging on retail pegs starting in summer 2016, so this could be it.

The end of product code is a red herring, representing the region. ZM/A is for European and some other markets. AM/A is mainly for the American market. Again, the difference is only in the packaging (e.g. languages).

 

[PeterJH3]

This piqued my interest and I've been spending the last few hours researching it!

I remember straps destined for the US market had tabs added to the packaging for hanging on retail pegs starting in summer 2016, so this could be it.

The end of product code is a red herring, representing the region. ZM/A is for European and some other markets. AM/A is mainly for the American market. Again, the difference is only in the packaging (e.g. languages).

Interesting indeed. I ended up buying this one on eBay for the sake of letting it get away and I want to compare it to a Midnight Blue with the MLL model number in my local store when I get it, just for peace of mind. I didn't know the ending letters represented the a different market -- when I was initially reading up on the new model number for the updated (PRODUCT)RED band, at first when I searched for MQXE2AM/A, it brought up a listing overseas -- however, this is now available in stores here. That said...what about bands such as Antique White, Vintage Rose, Walnut and others ending in ZM/A that were clearly available in the US?

 

[Brookzy]

Interesting indeed. I ended up buying this one on eBay for the sake of letting it get away and I want to compare it to a Midnight Blue with the MLL model number in my local store when I get it, just for peace of mind. I didn't know the ending letters represented the a different market -- when I was initially reading up on the new model number for the updated (PRODUCT)RED band, at first when I searched for MQXE2AM/A, it brought up a listing overseas -- however, this is now available in stores here. That said...what about bands such as Antique White, Vintage Rose, Walnut and others ending in ZM/A that were clearly available in the US?

That's great. Please post pictures when it arrives!

As to the model number confusion... ZM/A is essentially an international product code. A region will get ZM/A unless it has its own regional variant. AM/A - a region code for America and some other places - seems to have been introduced in early 2016. I can only assume that there was some packaging alteration at that time.

You can verify this yourself by picking any band on the Apple Store at the moment and changing the country and witnessing the product code change. For example, the 42MM Flash Sport Loop...

...in America is MQWE2AM/A

...in the UK is MQWE2ZM/A

...and in Australia is MQWE2FE/A

(There are more regions but you get the idea.)

Region codes have been around on Apple products forever. You might be wondering why they all end /A. This is the revision code, which in practice is never used anymore. If, for instance, Apple found a major flaw in a product and made a considerable change to its design mid-life, it could re-release it with the same product code, but ending in /B.

 

[PeterJH3]

That's great. Please post pictures when it arrives!

As to the model number confusion... ZM/A is essentially an international product code. A region will get ZM/A unless it has its own regional variant. AM/A - a region code for America and some other places - seems to have been introduced in early 2016. I can only assume that there was some packaging alteration at that time.

Region codes have been around on Apple products forever. You might be wondering why they all end /A. This is the revision code, which in practice is never used anymore. If, for instance, Apple found a major flaw in a product and made a considerable change to its design mid-life, it could re-release it with the same product code, but ending in /B.

Gotcha! Great info there, and thank you! I'll post when I get the MB band. I bought the 6 new fall colors and then the new gen (PRODUCT)RED one as well. I'm OCD like that, so I wanted to have every Sport band. (Still missing a 42mm Lavender - that one has proven difficult.) This model number difference for MB intrigued me esp if it ends up being a slightly different hue. Who knows...yet.

 

[applewatchcollector]

I love this concept. Though, two comments:

1) For completions sakes, we need pin icons for the Edition Gold and Edition Rose Gold bands also (in addition to the Aluminium Gold, Aluminium Rose Gold, Space Gray pins)

2) Increasingly I am thinking we need to - and I hate to say this - create separate columns for bands that came with a Watch (i.e. NOT sold separately). For example, the new Gray sport band comes with a black pin with a Watch and silver sold separately: even with the icons, how would someone looking at the chart be able to figure out which is which? The simplest way to do it would be - and again... I hate to say this - to have one additional column per band variation (e.g. Gray would have 2 columns; 1st columns would be sold separately version and the 2nd colum with black pin would denote that it was not sold separately).

This is a fantastic project. I was actually half way into it myself over the summer (attached) but I was scuppered by literally running out of space in the software I was using, so when new bands came out, I would have to start from scratch!

I was also wondering if you were interested in the key system that I used to designate hardware colours and sizes, because I saw a few posts up that you were wondering how to indicate that a specific band only came in one size.

View attachment 723186

I also know that you already indicate hardware colours but I attached PNGs of Apple's representations of the pins (and the size designation icons) in case you thought they were of any use to you compared with the solid colours used at present.

Once this season is done and dusted and we can be sure that the poster is complete (for now!) it would be great if you could post a high resolution PDF so that I can print it in large format and have it framed on my wall.
[doublepost=1507050103][/doublepost]
Good spot on the Sport Band and Modern Buckle.

Regarding sell-through, this is an issue because availability differs by region and by size. I assume for this project US availability is being considered.

[doublepost=1507165384][/doublepost]

Gotcha! Great info there, and thank you! I'll post when I get the MB band. I bought the 6 new fall colors and then the new gen (PRODUCT)RED one as well. I'm OCD like that, so I wanted to have every Sport band. (Still missing a 42mm Lavender - that one has proven difficult.) This model number difference for MB intrigued me esp if it ends up being a slightly different hue. Who knows...yet.

I am looking forward to your findings about the MB! I too am attempting to collect ALL the Sport bands ever made. I *may* have a Lavendar band spare. I’ll let you know if I find it. It was the most difficult band to source in the last round. I am currently up to date except:

1) Gray/Black
2) Soft White/Ceramic White
3) Gray/Ceramic Gray
4) Nike Pure Platinum/Black
5) Midnight Blue/Rose Gold
6) Midnight Blue/Gold
7) Cocoa/Gold
8) Stone/Rose Gold

I just got the new Series 3 Pink Sand/Gold. Would you know if it’s different to the Series 2 Pink Sand/Gold? I’m going to assume it is different as the color of gold has changed in Series 3 to a more copper color. If no one knows, I guess only one way to find out...

I have resigned myself to the fact that I will never be able to find:

9) Red/Gold (China only)
10) Edition Black/Gold
11) Edition White/Gold

 

[Brookzy]

2) Increasingly I am thinking we need to - and I hate to say this - create separate columns for bands that came with a Watch (i.e. NOT sold separately). For example, the new Gray sport band comes with a black pin with a Watch and silver sold separately: even with the icons, how would someone looking at the chart be able to figure out which is which? The simplest way to do it would be - and again... I hate to say this - to have one additional column per band variation (e.g. Gray would have 2 columns; 1st columns would be sold separately version and the 2nd colum with black pin would denote that it was not sold separately).

Are you sure about the Grey Sport Band? The standalone version is pictured with a Space Grey pin on the Apple Store.

Though your point still stands - the Black Sport Band is an especially annoying case because:

1. Both a Silver and Space Grey pin version has been available since day one, but the Space Grey was not sold separately.
   
2. Afterwards, they were both offered for sale separately.
3. After that, a L/XL (i.e. bigger) size option was offered for sale (and in White, too), but only in a Silver pin!
4. After that, Apple sold a Black Sport Band with Space Black (not Grey!) pin. I compared it myself with a Space Grey one and they were identical but nonetheless this is confusing.
5. Now, only the Space Grey pin version is sold except the L/XL version, which is still in Silver!

How do you show THAT on the chart!
[doublepost=1507167028][/doublepost]Also, for my contribution to this project, I am presently assembling a spreadsheet of all the straps and their part numbers. Over 200 done so far, because I'm doing 38MM and 42MM! If anyone knows the part numbers of more obscure bands (especially Hermès and the Rio Olympics International Collection bands) please let me know!

 

[pcall1128]

Are you sure about the Grey Sport Band? The standalone version is pictured with a Space Grey pin on the Apple Store.

Though your point still stands - the Black Sport Band is an especially annoying case because:

1. Both a Silver and Space Grey pin version has been available since day one, but the Space Grey was not sold separately.
   
2. Afterwards, they were both offered for sale separately.
3. After that, a L/XL (i.e. bigger) size option was offered for sale (and in White, too), but only in a Silver pin!
4. After that, Apple sold a Black Sport Band with Space Black (not Grey!) pin. I compared it myself with a Space Grey one and they were identical but nonetheless this is confusing.
5. Now, only the Space Grey pin version is sold except the L/XL version, which is still in Silver!

How do you show THAT on the chart!
[doublepost=1507167028][/doublepost]Also, for my contribution to this project, I am presently assembling a spreadsheet of all the straps and their part numbers. Over 200 done so far, because I'm doing 38MM and 42MM! If anyone knows the part numbers of more obscure bands (especially Hermès and the Rio Olympics International Collection bands) please let me know!

I can confirm about the gray Sport band-definately has a gray pin. I haven’t seen ANY versions with a silver pin.

 

[applewatchcollector]

Are you sure about the Grey Sport Band? The standalone version is pictured with a Space Grey pin on the Apple Store.

Though your point still stands - the Black Sport Band is an especially annoying case because:

1. Both a Silver and Space Grey pin version has been available since day one, but the Space Grey was not sold separately.
   
2. Afterwards, they were both offered for sale separately.
3. After that, a L/XL (i.e. bigger) size option was offered for sale (and in White, too), but only in a Silver pin!
4. After that, Apple sold a Black Sport Band with Space Black (not Grey!) pin. I compared it myself with a Space Grey one and they were identical but nonetheless this is confusing.
5. Now, only the Space Grey pin version is sold except the L/XL version, which is still in Silver!

How do you show THAT on the chart!
[doublepost=1507167028][/doublepost]Also, for my contribution to this project, I am presently assembling a spreadsheet of all the straps and their part numbers. Over 200 done so far, because I'm doing 38MM and 42MM! If anyone knows the part numbers of more obscure bands (especially Hermès and the Rio Olympics International Collection bands) please let me know!

Yes... very difficult to show on chart. Some compromises need to be made, or an asterisk with small print Or an accompanying Google Doc?

Re model numbers - I can help you with the 42mm Hermes bands (I have a few of them) and a couple of the International bands. There’s a guy on Reddit that has all of the International bands, let me see if I can find him.
[doublepost=1507225502][/doublepost]

I can confirm about the gray Sport band-definately has a gray pin. I haven’t seen ANY versions with a silver pin.

Thank you for confirming. I’m glad - that’s one less band to find!

 

[choreographics]

Guys! As mentioned I am very happy to see the chart is still alive and being updated for couples of times already. Great work, @emiaj!

I started to work on a slightly different version the last days—a more compact, maybe less confusing and a more poster-like. It's still a long way to go (need to adjust the bands, but my harddrive is a mess and I cant find every photo of the bands I had), but here some early shots.

You will be able to see, which bands are currently available, which not, all available pin colors if not silver are more prominent, as well Product(RED) and Edition will be. There's a date above, when the band was initially released and which base model number it has (some bands have different numbers in different countries, but the first few letters are unique—you mentioned the problem somewhere above)...

Not sure, it's "better", but I wanted to have something to print out (large scale) and not to see the same band five times on the chart.

What do you think? Any first thoughts?

 

[Brookzy]

While compiling model numbers I've made a couple of other observations:

• The poster has many Hermes bands in "Etoupe Barenia" but I can't find any other reference of this... is it instead supposed to be "Etoupe Swift"?
• The poster is listing some bands as available which are not and vice versa. I guess this is because availability differs by country. Which is the region of choice here?
  • N.B. you can tell the difference between active/in production bands, and bands which have been discontinued but are still for sale until they sell out, by comparing the options on each individual band's buy page, and the options shown here https://www.apple.com/shop/watch/bands
• Could there be a distinction between bands offered in different sizes? E.g. the White and Black Sport Band have been available in an M/L & L/XL option for a while and some colours of the Hermes Double Tour came in regular and large (and of course the Leather Loop has always been available in medium and large).

Are you sure about the Grey Sport Band? The standalone version is pictured with a Space Grey pin on the Apple Store.

Though your point still stands - the Black Sport Band is an especially annoying case because:

1. Both a Silver and Space Grey pin version has been available since day one, but the Space Grey was not sold separately.
   
2. Afterwards, they were both offered for sale separately.
3. After that, a L/XL (i.e. bigger) size option was offered for sale (and in White, too), but only in a Silver pin!
4. After that, Apple sold a Black Sport Band with Space Black (not Grey!) pin. I compared it myself with a Space Grey one and they were identical but nonetheless this is confusing.
5. Now, only the Space Grey pin version is sold except the L/XL version, which is still in Silver!

How do you show THAT on the chart!
[doublepost=1507167028][/doublepost]Also, for my contribution to this project, I am presently assembling a spreadsheet of all the straps and their part numbers. Over 200 done so far, because I'm doing 38MM and 42MM! If anyone knows the part numbers of more obscure bands (especially Hermès and the Rio Olympics International Collection bands) please let me know!

Correcting myself slightly here regarding point 1: it turns out that the Silver and Space Grey Black Sport Bands were both sold separately from day one.

Yes... very difficult to show on chart. Some compromises need to be made, or an asterisk with small print Or an accompanying Google Doc?

Re model numbers - I can help you with the 42mm Hermes bands (I have a few of them) and a couple of the International bands. There’s a guy on Reddit that has all of the International bands, let me see if I can find him.

That would be useful, thank you! I'm finding it impossible to get the numbers for the Rio bands.

Guys! As mentioned I am very happy to see the chart is still alive and being updated for couples of times already. Great work, @emiaj!

I started to work on a slightly different version the last days—a more compact, maybe less confusing and a more poster-like. It's still a long way to go (need to adjust the bands, but my harddrive is a mess and I cant find every photo of the bands I had), but here some early shots.

You will be able to see, which bands are currently available, which not, all available pin colors if not silver are more prominent, as well Product(RED) and Edition will be. There's a date above, when the band was initially released and which base model number it has (some bands have different numbers in different countries, but the first few letters are unique—you mentioned the problem somewhere above)...

Not sure, it's "better", but I wanted to have something to print out (large scale) and not to see the same band five times on the chart.

What do you think? Any first thoughts?

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This is nice! Out of interest, what software are you using?

 

[applewatchcollector]

What do you think? Any first thoughts?

I think the layout of your original version is much easier to understand. While this is more compact, if I’d seen this image I would have never been inspired to start collecting the bands. There’s an elegance in the way you’d spaced and organized the bands in your original that I think the new compact version is missing (as cool as it looks as art it’s essentially less ‘functional’ as a guide).
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While compiling model numbers I've made a couple of other observations:

• The poster has many Hermes bands in "Etoupe Barenia" but I can't find any other reference of this... is it instead supposed to be "Etoupe Swift"?

I think it’s a typo. I’m only aware of Fauve Barenia and Etoupe Swift.

• The poster is listing some bands as available which are not and vice versa. I guess this is because availability differs by country. Which is the region of choice here?
  • N.B. you can tell the difference between active/in production bands, and bands which have been discontinued but are still for sale until they sell out, by comparing the options on each individual band's buy page, and the options shown here https://www.apple.com/shop/watch/bands

North America, and home of Apple, for simplicity. I think it’ll be impossible to ‘globalize’ this chart.

• Could there be a distinction between bands offered in different sizes? E.g. the White and Black Sport Band have been available in an M/L & L/XL option for a while and some colours of the Hermes Double Tour came in regular and large (and of course the Leather Loop has always been available in medium and large).

Given it only affects a handful of bands, I think having an M/L and L/XL marker would be manageable long-term. EDIT: Actually, to keep it simple only display the L/XL marker on bands were a larger version was also offered. Assumption being that if L/XL is not present on a band, then it was offered in S/M/L and/or M/L variants.

That would be useful, thank you! I'm finding it impossible to get the numbers for the Rio bands.

I reached out to the guy who I *think* is the guy and have yet to hear back. Will keep you posted.

In the meantime, do you have your database in a Google Spreadsheet, if yes would you like to share it? I can start populating any empty model numbers for the Hermes bands, etc.

FYI I am currently finding model numbers for all the Aluminium Gold and Aluminium Rose Gold Watches (in 42mm). Here’s what I have on my list:

* Midnight/Gold
* Midnight/Rose Gold
* Cocoa/Gold
* Pink Sand/Gold (Series 2 gold)
* Pink Sand/Gold (Series 3 gold)
* Stone/Rose Gold
* Red/Gold (Limited Edition China only release)

38mm only bands:

* Stone/Pink Gold (38mm)
* Antique White/Gold (38mm)
* Lavendar/Rose Gold (38mm)

Edition (Series 0):

* Black/Gold (Edition)
* White/ Rose Gold (Edition)
* Concrete/Gold (Edition)

Woven Nylons:

* Gold/Red/Gold
* Royal Blue/Gold
* Space Orange/Antharacite/Gold
* Light Pink/Midnight Blue/Rose Gold
* Gold/Royal Blue/Gold
* Yellow/Light Gray/Gold
* Toasted Coffee/Caramel/Gold

I haven’t yet figured out which of the above was S0, S1 and S2 so may need some help on that front.

 

[Brookzy]

North America, and home of Apple, for simplicity. I think it’ll be impossible to ‘globalize’ this chart.

Yes I agree, but the present availability on the chart doesn't match up with North America.

Given it only affects a handful of bands, I think having an M/L and L/XL marker would be manageable long-term. EDIT: Actually, to keep it simple only display the L/XL marker on bands were a larger version was also offered. Assumption being that if L/XL is not present on a band, then it was offered in S/M/L and/or M/L variants.

Yes, I think L/XL is only really needed on the relevant Sport Bands and Hermes Double Tour bands.

I reached out to the guy who I *think* is the guy and have yet to hear back. Will keep you posted.

In the meantime, do you have your database in a Google Spreadsheet, if yes would you like to share it? I can start populating any empty model numbers for the Hermes bands, etc.

FYI I am currently finding model numbers for all the Aluminium Gold and Aluminium Rose Gold Watches (in 42mm). Here’s what I have on my list:

* Midnight/Gold
* Midnight/Rose Gold
* Cocoa/Gold
* Pink Sand/Gold (Series 2 gold)
* Pink Sand/Gold (Series 3 gold)
* Stone/Rose Gold
* Red/Gold (Limited Edition China only release)

38mm only bands:

* Stone/Pink Gold (38mm)
* Antique White/Gold (38mm)
* Lavendar/Rose Gold (38mm)

Edition (Series 0):

* Black/Gold (Edition)
* White/ Rose Gold (Edition)
* Concrete/Gold (Edition)

Woven Nylons:

* Gold/Red/Gold
* Royal Blue/Gold
* Space Orange/Antharacite/Gold
* Light Pink/Midnight Blue/Rose Gold
* Gold/Royal Blue/Gold
* Yellow/Light Gray/Gold
* Toasted Coffee/Caramel/Gold

I haven’t yet figured out which of the above was S0, S1 and S2 so may need some help on that front.

I don't think there was a Concrete/Gold Edition band? I recall there being White and Black and that's all.

I don't use Google Docs but there is a link below to the spreadsheet. I've barely started on the model numbers but in terms of the band listings I think it is complete. But there may be some errors:

• If special hardware colours of the Woven Nylon were only offered in one size, this spreadsheet may erroneously list both. I need to double check them.
• The "sell-through" status may be incorrect depending on how quickly bands sell out.

Note:

• Bands have silver hardware unless stated.
• Availability based on US catalogue.
• RED SPORT BAND (GOLD PIN, CHINA) is the same colour as PRODUCT(RED) SPORT BAND but was not marketed as PRODUCT(RED) due to local laws (indeed, all PRODUCT(RED) Apple products are marketed as simply 'red' in China).
• Some Woven Nylon bands were rebranded with "Stripe" in Fall 2017, but are listed under their original names. Stripe bands released for the first time in Fall 2017 are listed under the new branding.

Spreadsheet link: EDIT: see more recent post

 

[choreographics]

I don't think there was a Concrete/Gold Edition band? I recall there being White and Black and that's all.

Actually, there was one.

RED SPORT BAND (GOLD PIN, CHINA) is the same colour as PRODUCT(RED) SPORT BAND but was not marketed as PRODUCT(RED) due to local laws (indeed, all PRODUCT(RED) Apple products are marketed as simply 'red' in China).

Great! Of course. Totally forget about this one.

 

[Brookzy]

Actually, there was one.

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Ah... well, @applewatchcollector implied there was a Series 0 Edition (i.e. 18K gold) Concrete Sport Band. I don't think there was though?

But regardless, as to an aluminium gold version... I was not aware of that! I will update my spreadsheet. It also needs @emiaj's poster.

Do you know, so that I can update my spreadsheet, if it was available in 38mm and 42mm, or just 38mm?