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The healthy discount on the Google Pixel 6 & 6 Pro has peaked my interest. Anyone following this thread have any experience with them?
I have try the 6 Pro in the store and get terrible eye strain after few minutes :( The Pixel 6 seems better but still not good enough to use it.
 
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Could this finally be the answer?? I have not had a chance to research this display model as I just finished the article and came straight to this page.


"So what is M12? In essence, it comprises the red, green and blue pixel’s dopant, host and prime elements in OLED displays. What M12 brings to the table is improved display performance, color accuracy and energy efficiency."


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I can't find any real data about M12 OLED, lots of "reports" on Apple bringing it to iPhone 14 (maybe) but that's about it.




"07/24 Update: Ross Young has provided additional updates about the adoption of M12 on the iPhone 14 lineup, and it isn’t all good news.

While previously stating that M12 will increase the power efficiency of iPhone 14 displays compared to their predecessors, he explained that this doesn’t mean they will be class-leading in other areas. “The S22 Ultra will still likely be brighter due to the MLA/MLP structure, which boosted brightness to 1750 nits. But [it] should be better than iPhone 13,” he told me.

This makes sense. For context, the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Pro are rated at 800 and 1000 nits peak brightness, respectively, so the generational jump would have had to be massive. Moreover, Apple has never been interested in winning a spec war, and it fits that the company would prioritize efficiency first.

Interestingly, Young also gave context around Samsung’s omission of M12 in the Galaxy S22 lineup, saying that the “timing didn’t work out. M12 only just launching.” So it looks like Samsung’s loss will be Apple’s gain — at least until the Galaxy S23 lineup launches early next year."


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The M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14" has been an amazing computer. One word sums up the experience: refined.

It seems noticeably more thin and light than my previous 15" MacBook Pro to the extent that when I hold it it feels ridiculously portable, which is mind-blowing considering its performance and capability. I wouldn't know the difference that a MacBook Air would provide without having used one, as this already feels unbelievably thin and light.

It's improved in meaningful ways over my 2012 Retina MacBook Pro, yet at the same time it seems incredibly familiar even after a decade like there have just been a thousand little refinements.

Impressive speakers and Apple Music either via the high-impedance headphone jack or USB-C have been an audiophile's dream. Bluetooth is quite good, and seems improved as well.

The keyboard is solid, requiring perhaps a lighter touch even. Meanwhile the trackpad is surprisingly the size of an iPhone 13 Pro Max or larger, making it a joy to use.

Of course the display looks incredible with HDR content. There is a slight difference with the higher pixel density, and the additional color coverage of the P3 color gamut is immediately noticeable. It's easily one of the best displays available on the market. Bright highlights are brought to their potential, even beyond what OLED is typically capable of producing. I should preface that OLED does look more natural, but Apple did an excellent job avoiding blooming and other issues that could arise with Mini LED, even if it can be slightly apparent at higher brightness levels.

Unfortunately I'm having a similar issue with the display that I have with flickering OLED iPhones: tension headaches and migraines seem to be onset by the PWM flickering, even at a 15Hz rate. It's not quite as bad as on iPhone, but it may end up being a dealbreaker that I wasn't able to notice at an Apple Store. A bit of a shame since I was even considering moving to the 16" model since that's the size I'm most used to on the MacBook Pro. I'm going to continue testing and giving it a fair chance.

I should also add that I went into it not expecting to have migraines or headaches, as I usually do with new iPhones.

On the bright side, despite appearing to have a flickering display in some videos Notebookcheck did measure the new MacBook Air as being free of PWM.

This MacBook Pro feels incredibly powerful otherwise and oddly incremental like it could nonetheless last another decade, then I'll upgrade to another MacBook Pro that provides more of the same incredibly well-built, polished experience. Apple still needs to work on providing an Accessibility option for PWM flickering, or eliminating it even if it may be more necessitated by these higher-contract displays with 10,000+ Mini LED's.

I am optimistic that Apple is waiting for the next-generation flicker-free OLED display's before adding them to a MacBook Pro, and that we will see PWM improvements on iPhone each time a new OLED technology is introduced.
 
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I read books on my 12 mini just fine lol
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Honestly, no offense meant and I apologize for my ignorant comment. It’s just a sensitive topic for many of us in here who haven’t been able to use a flagship phone since the 7 Plus. Your comment, while likely not ill intended, felt like you were thumbing your nose to the rest of us. I am glad you are able to read on the 12. Jealous to be honest.
 
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Honestly, no offense meant and I apologize for my ignorant comment. It’s just a sensitive topic for many of us in here who haven’t been able to use a flagship phone since the 7 Plus. Your comment, while likely not ill intended, felt like you were thumbing your nose to the rest of us. I am glad you are able to read on the 12. Jealous to be honest.
I need glasses for anything important seeing long distance though, like driving or shooting but just out and about don't really need it.
 
Honestly, no offense meant and I apologize for my ignorant comment. It’s just a sensitive topic for many of us in here who haven’t been able to use a flagship phone since the 7 Plus. Your comment, while likely not ill intended, felt like you were thumbing your nose to the rest of us. I am glad you are able to read on the 12. Jealous to be honest.
Nah, I think you got it right from the jump.
 
Getting back on topic... no reason to believe iPhone 14 Pro will be any different than other OLED iPhone? Any recent DC dimming rumors?
 
Getting back on topic... no reason to believe iPhone 14 Pro will be any different than other OLED iPhone? Any recent DC dimming rumors?
iPhone 14 is using newer OLED technology beyond that of which Samsung uses in its own phones, and will likely feature an always-on display. Thus, there’s a possibility of changes but no specific rumors about DC dimming.
 
I’ve come to the point where if the discomfort is still there but mild, I’m keeping the 14 Pro or Max Pro depending on which size I land on. I’m to the point where I’m making too many compromises with this 11. I want to be excited about tech again.
 
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But rumors from the display analyst say, that only the iPhone 14 Pro will receive display panels from Samsung Display. The Displays for the 14 Pro Max should also come from LG. And on the iPhone 14 there is also BOE. The question is if the PWM implemention could be better and more consistent on the 14 Pro because there is only one supplier.
 
As Samsung talks about Flicker free Oled in their youtube video´s i think there might be a solution in the making. It could be the new Oled that Apple is using in the 14 series. Lets still keep some hope open :):apple:
 
As Samsung talks about Flicker free Oled in their youtube video´s i think there might be a solution in the making. It could be the new Oled that Apple is using in the 14 series. Lets still keep some hope open :):apple:
I hope their idea of "flicker-free" is the same as what we know it as. They seem to be advertising it as a visible flickering of light. It is definitely tough to explain to a typical consumer, so maybe that is how they have chosen to proceed.
 
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The latest report says that also LG will use new material for the iPhone 14 and Pro Max:

“..Additionally, LG will contribute by producing panels for both the standard iPhone 14 and the premium iPhone 14 Pro Max. The RS-L material set will be used to create them. With the previous RS-K set, LG was producing iPhone 13 panels last year.“


We will see if that will bring improvements we need.
 
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I’m on my 3rd iPhone 11 battery from Apple. I think the last 2 were bad batteries because the health dropped from the start. This one is 7 months old and still at 100% health.

But I do worry for when the 11 stops being sold. If something breaks or I damage this 11 I’ll be really stuck if Apple discontinues it later this year. This is a launch day 11 so it’s pushing on 3 years old.

If the iPhone 14/Pro doesn’t resolve the PWM problems I wonder should I try grab another 11 before it’s discontinued. I’d have to get a launch day iPhone 14 and try it out if the 11 is discontinued at the same time.

I don’t really want to go for an SE.

Does anyone else have plans for when their current phone breaks?
 
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^^I don't!! I keep hearing rumors they'll do something with the 11 to enhance it into a new bigger SE but I'm not holding out hope. Since I got my Apple Watch I'm starting to phase out my phone, just getting used to not having it. Then I figure as a last resort i can use an SE just to support the watch. It just keeps irritating me more that Apple seemingly ignores this issue while the number of people affected continues to grow. At least a lot more are mentioning it to me and in articles.
 
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