Wow, didn't know that so I'm glad I swerved it. Even the 2020 11" iPad Pro had very high PWM and that strained my eyes.
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Maybe it was already mentioned: The iPad Pro 11 (2022) doesn't use PWM, according to Notebookcheck. I tried an earlier generation of the iPad Pro 11 and the iPad Air (4th generation), both of which apparently didn't use PWM either – the result: the display of both devices still strained my eyes.
I just tried my first Apple Watch (the Ultra) and it gave me pretty heavy nausea after five minutes. I opened up a white photo on the watch and took a slow-mo video and there was flickering. Which Apple Watches are safe?
Sent my back. More info later
I tried the 14, 14 Plus and 14 Pro and all three went back. I probably could have made the 14 work if no other options were available since it took the most time to cause issues, but the SE is a thing so I'm waiting it out another year or two. I do feel like it's improving over time. The 14 was almost the one this year, so I'm still holding out hope.
I think I agree. The pros were a no go. The plus was almost as bad. From memory, the regular 6.1 size 14 was the best in that I could use at the longest until it started giving me some dizziness. So, that was the best of the bunch I think.
Like you, I could've of probably made that work if there were no other options.
Thinking I’m with you on that. Since you’re not able to get a new phone, are you feeling like you might want an M2 iPP 11”?
I forget: have you been able to use the SE 2022 without any issues that some people have had?
I’ve been using Androids since around 2016. I’m still on a couple of Android devices but now can no longer use my Pixel 6 Pro after using the 14 Pro Max. This sort of thing also happened to me last year: the 13 Pro rendered me so far, permanently unable to use my 12 mini. I don’t understand what permanent damage was done by the 13 Pro that still renders me a year later unable to use something I used before. It’s very concerning.
I’m just deciding I am pretty much done with the screen addiction anyway. Watching my mom’s struggle with dementia reminds me how delicate the brain is and I better take better care of myself.
I will miss the photography and easy sharing of photos the most. I’m thinking I can still use Apple products for that along with Androids. The rest of it can go. I’ve made arrangements for my mom’s nursing home to conduct most important business with me via phone and the rest to be done with my husband’s email account. They were already inclined to do that anyway.
I’ll still have to shop online from Amazon and Chewy, but I’ve automated a lot of routine purchases. Jumping online for Christmas and birthday shopping isn’t too bad. I’m composing my own wish list from a print catalog I got in the mail.
I lived for almost 40 years without much more than desktop pc’s and 18 years without tech of that kind at all. (I could not afford the home PC’s that came out when I was in high school until I went to college). So, I’m not stepping into a lifestyle that’s totally alien to me.
I’ll still pop in here to check things out. I give myself an hour to surf and this site is one of my regular stopping points.
It is an addiction like any other, though. I’ll have to work to kick it. Lol the bulk of my web surfing has been about technology and if I let go of my fanatic interest in tech gadgets then I can cut out a lot of time online right there!
I’m going back to paper books and reading by daylight. When I’m done with the books I’ll donate them. I’m not using these stupid lightbulbs much more except for task lighting in the kitchen.
When I was a little girl I did spend a lot of time with a Mennonite family that was really close with my grandparents. I remember how their home was set up and what their lifestyle was like. They had electricity and automobiles but were pretty strict about their lifestyle and almost fit in with the Amish in terms of simplicity. I remember the serenity of it and the more I think about it, the more it appeals to me. I’ve been thinking of ways to adapt some of their ways into my own life.
Honestly the biggest shock to the system already happened and that was when I pulled the plug on Facebook, about 6 or 7 years ago.
That was a big adjustment because it basically ended the relationships I thought were solid. People to whom I contributed countless thousands of dollars to their educations, trips, whatever they needed, well…I don’t learn of their special moments or even pregnancies anymore unless someone who has Facebook tells me about it. However we do still hear directly from a couple of people when money is involved. If that’s the way it is, it shows me I didn’t do my job forging a close enough relationship with people who genuinely cared about me, too, and that is the consequence.
Though sadly I did recently lose a dear friend of many decades. She said it was too much of a burden to keep in touch via email and if I couldn’t find it in myself to keep up via social media, she couldn’t repeat everything in email. And she doesn’t do phone calls. I said I understood and we parted amicably. I don’t know quite how to think about that. I feel at fault somehow but I got no warning so I couldn’t really figure out any compromises or alternatives. If she took me being off of FB personally or judged me for it in some way, there’s not much I can do about that.
It’s a choice. It will have consequences. It is what it is. Goodness knows I won’t be twiddling my thumbs, crying over technology I can’t use anymore and people I’ve fallen out of touch with.
I’m going to spend the next several months cleaning out an outbuilding and then fixing it up so I can take up sculpting again while I’m still able to do it. I’m going to have “Edison bulbs” all over the place. 🤣. I have a kid who wants me to transport my dad’s power tools from his old house to the outbuilding and we can try carpentry. They’re also going to teach me archery. My husband will teach me golf. I sort of already play golf but really comically badly! I can make a golf ball go up and backwards over my head somehow. It’s apparently a talent I inherited from my mother! 😂🤣
There are also a couple of charities near to my heart that I’ve been doing work for.
And of course looking after my mother keeps me busy the most! She’s a handful, that one! I’m happy she’s still able to tell me some great stories I never heard before about her and my dad’s time as a military family.
Having said all that, you people know me by now. I know myself. I am totally going to be checking out the iPhone 15’s next year. I’m going to look at the iPhone SE 4 whenever that comes out. I get enormous joy from just looking at my purple 12 mini even though I can’t use it.
Though I may be able to use it again if my plans to redesign my lifestyle work out. I’m getting more into podcasts. I don’t need to torture my nervous system to enjoy those. Knock wood. You never know what technology these companies will introduce next that will possibly render us catatonic.
Oh my, sorry for writing a novel here!
Oh for god sake, that's my Christmas ruinedSent my back. More info later
Love to hear your findings, disappointing as they may very well be.The price increase in the UK has put the M2 iPP 11" into the "it ain't worth that much" column for me. Thats why I'm holding for a refurb M1 11". Otherwise I might seek a deal for a M2 MBA next year. Now using my funds to treat my parents to some new Apple hardware this Christmas (as their current is getting old).
Where have you landed on your Apple gear this year. Back on your 11?
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I'm happy to report the SE 2022 gives me no issues at all. The screen is perfect and beautiful to me. Small but perfect. And after years on the XR, it's a downright pleasure having a compact phone again. You forget how chunky the XR is until you hold another small to mid-sized iPhone.
I've had mine for a week now with no issues.
Hope restored! Have you had any PWM issues in the past with iPhones, mainly the 13?
Nothing anyone says here can determine if another person will have troubles with a particular iPhone screen.
The ONLY way to find out if a particular iPhone is going to bother YOU is to buy one and use it for a while - with Plan B being a return if it nails you.
The ONLY way to find out if a particular iPhone is going to bother YOU is to buy one and use it for a while - with Plan B being a return if it nails you.
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That sounds like a nice thing to do with your funds. If you can’t enjoy the apples, it‘s nice that someone you love can.
Totally get you on the iPP 11 situation. I maaaay hold off because I don’t need it right now, and it might just be healthy to enjoy what I have.
…which brings us to phones.
I’m still experimenting.
But I’m doing better with the 14PM now that I’m not keeping max brightness and almost max RWP. Having RWP between 65-75% and letting autobrightness do its thing seems to help. That’s something I couldn’t do with previous OLED iPhones, so that feels like improvement.I still make wishes in fountains every chance I get that I can find my way back to an LCD screen. And I still might return this 14PM, but I’m exhausted and struggle at the thought of returning yet another phone.
Definitely know that in future, I want to try to only try new phones during holiday return period because not stressing about figuring everything out in 14 days really helps the examination. And it feels respectful to Apple.
However, I still have my 11. That cliché about cold dead hands comes to mind.
Have you found a way to make your 7+ feel new again? Or made peace with it?
One option is to get a nice case. I got a handmade leather case for my iPhone SE that makes it feel even more premium.
I’m having a better experience with iPhone 14 today. I thought it was funny how many users tried it that had a headache to begin with, only for the same dilemma to happen to me on the day it was delivered.
I suppose I chose iPhone 14 based on the size, which I’ve been enjoying more, and that there shouldn’t be enough of a tangible difference with iPhone 14 Plus for it to be worth a try. So let’s see if I do activate it and begin the new iPhone attachment phase…
Well, I got the 14 PM and this time I didn't even give the PWM a chance to get me because I was instantly put off by the size. I have no idea what changed this time from my release day experience but it just felt too 'in my face'. I did have some discomfort behind my eyes while setting it up but that could have been from anything. It is already boxed up and now I am seeking a 14 Pro.
I can understand in many people's situations, their hands have a difficult time using the 6.1" one handed so in theory, if you like the larger screen and don't mind the heft, you may as well go big since it will be a two handed device regardless which you use. For me, with these big mitts, I can type one handed without issue on the PM, but I have to shift the phone to reach the top. With the 6.1", I can reach all four corners with ease using the pinky-cradle grip. So, I will try the 14 Pro and if it doesn't work PWM wise, I will use my 11 (with new screen and new battery) for another year.
I can understand in many people's situations, their hands have a difficult time using the 6.1" one handed so in theory, if you like the larger screen and don't mind the heft, you may as well go big since it will be a two handed device regardless which you use. For me, with these big mitts, I can type one handed without issue on the PM, but I have to shift the phone to reach the top. With the 6.1", I can reach all four corners with ease using the pinky-cradle grip. So, I will try the 14 Pro and if it doesn't work PWM wise, I will use my 11 (with new screen and new battery) for another year.
All the big iPhones since the first 6 Plus are hell to hold one handed for anyone — EXCEPT when you use a Loopy Case. With a loopy case with its finger loop on the back, it’s easier to do everything on the biggest iPhone ever made than it is to use the smallest iPhone with no case.
I exclusively use big iPhones (with a loopy case) but if loopy cases didn’t exist — I wouldn’t use them. Too hard to hold.
I exclusively use big iPhones (with a loopy case) but if loopy cases didn’t exist — I wouldn’t use them. Too hard to hold.
I hear you on big phones. I did not want to go back to a phablet and I still wish the standard 14 hadn't given me the eyeball wiggles, but my 6.7" beast is getting much more manageable the more I use it. Popsockets are a godsend 🙏 I'm starting to kind of appreciate the size too, I read and play pokemon a lot and it's much more comfortable on a big screen. I definitely think the lighter weight is it's saving grace though. If I'd gone with the pro max, I probably would have returned it too. a 1.3 oz difference may not seem like much, but you definitely feel the difference during use.