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I’m glad that the the iPad Pros don’t use OLED technology. Therefore, their white won’t have that ugly blueish / pink tint when tilting the screen. I guess that the backlight LED will be dimmed the same way it is in the iPhone 8 (no PWM). I haven’t seen slow motion recordings of the screen yet, though.
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Hey guys...i had the same bad experience with iphone X last year. Bought a new 8 plus. Been happy with it since. My only concern now is regarding the new ipad pro. Want to buy one. Was happy that it doesn’t use oled. But am starting to have doubts after seeing the direction this thread took. If face id is the culprit here, then how do I make sure before buying. No return window here in India. Took a loss on the iphone X last year. Can’t do the same again. Would anyone here share their experience of the new ipad pro if somebody got one? Thanks
I haven't had any issues using the XS at the apple store or Best Buy for a few minutes at a time can problems occur after time?
Yes, but it is unlikely. Only a (very?) small percentage of people get affected. If you are one of them though, it will not be obvious by just using it for a few minutes at the Apple store or Best Buy
Oh damn having a hard time making a decision buying a new Iphone I have an SE now, But dont want to have to return it if it gives me headaches
The probability of getting headache is tiny. Just keep in mind that there were 40 million iPhones sold just the last 3 months, and we only see a few maybe hundreds of people complaining here. So the chance you are affected is something less than 0.001%..
Seems like its happening alot not just a little bit like other people have said
I have headaches often not looking at phones, should I just avoid the XS all together?
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I worry because I have headache problems regardless
For me the headaches from the Max stuck out because its extremely rare that I get a headache. From what I've noticed, the issue isn't the same for everyone. Try it, if you have issues with it, return it.
didnt want to go through the trouble of all that, Its basically between the 8 and XS as the XR is too big
In those cases it’s starting to look like FaceID is the culprit.
That’s good to hear, a lot of people wished this phone wouldn’t bother them, considering the great specs of this phone
People have said they still have problems with tape over Face ID sensors so how can it be?
The XR just has a normal non PWM LCD screen like any other standard iPhone over the years.
Placebo is a powerful thing sometimes, if your mind expects something to happen sometimes it does.
Their is no proof what so ever that Face ID is the culprit, only conjecture. Where as PWM on the X is a thing proven to cause eye strain/headaches.
People should not be put off buying an XR.
In those cases it’s most likely PWM. Some seem to react to PWM, some to FaceID and the unluckiest to both.
Naming something Placebo is the easy way out. But I guess it’s easy to call someone you don’t understand a “witch”. It’s a young technology and it will take a while to understand the effects of it on the eye and why it causes discomfort to some.
Having said that I completely agree that people should not be put off from using FaceID *unless* they have symptoms.
The issue is how many people would think that those symptoms are related to iPhone screen and PWM or FaceID? Most will attribute it to allergies, weather, pollution or less sleep and so on and keep using their iPhone X. There seems to be little public awareness regarding this. If it's not reported in the news then unless you read about it of forums like this, you may not attribute those symptoms to iPhone screen.
I've had pretty bad eye strain from the XR and I'm 100% lost as to why. I've tried messing with brightness, text size, zoom, nearly all display settings, etc and I still get this pinching feeling above my eyes after use.
It's not Face ID, I still have the symptoms even with it turned off + the sensor covered.
It makes NO sense, I've never had an issue with LCD screens before. I swear, I'm starting to think that it *is* a placebo effect or something. I can use literally every other device just fine (Macbook, iPad, 8+, etc) but for some reason the XR messes with my eyes.
This turns out to be a very interesting question. I currently own a 2nd generation 12.9” IPad Pro. It’s display is something like 264 PPI, considerably less than the standard iPhone’s 326 ppi. I have always liked the screen and have never any issues with blurred text. FWIW I view from iPad from 14” away vs 10-12” for my 8 Plus. In terms of text clarity, they are functionally indistinguishable.
I found the text on the XR, which uses Apple’s Liquid Retina display and rounded corners, much less satisfying to look at and could make out a slight raggedness or a slightly blurry quality to the text vs the 8 Plus, I assumed because of the PPI difference 326 vs 404. Maybe there are other factors at play as well.
The XR LCD is definately different the than the 8 Plus display in many ways other than PPI, at least to my eye. Clearly its brighter because it has twice as many LED backlights. But the depth of the display looks different. It’s almost as if they made the glass thinner, but whatever it is, it’s less satisfying for me to look at and I can see slight graininess in the text, which as I have pointed out in earlier posts, also uses a smaller and less readible font due to the number of pixel points.
Imagine my surprise when I went to the Apple store on launch day w/my 2nd Gen 12.9” iPad in tow and set it up alongside the 3rd generation model and found the exact same phenomenon at work. The Liquid Retina display on the new 12.9” iPad was less satisfying to look at than my current 2nd gen, essentially for the same reasons as pointed out above with the XR. The font size was of course not an issue as it’s the same size.
Once again I ask myself why I should upgrade my current iPad, plunk down a grand, when the quality of the new iPad screen, which for me is the important aspect of the iPad experience, is a bit of a downer/downgrade.
Sure the 3rd Gen iPad is blazingly fast, faster than most laptops, has a better camera etc., but its user interface is seriously flawed by the touch interface adaptations occasioned by the loss of the home button, especially fo rolder people w/eyesight issues or hand dexterity issues, this is nightmare. And clearly this group is not Apple’s target market.
Consider the area where the home button used to be. This is veritable minefield for touch users - even some Apple fanboy blogger/reviewers have suggested this. Unless you are very careful when you swipe up fron the bottom one of several things could reasonably occur: you invoke the home screen, you invoke the dock, you invoke the app switcher. You have to be very precise, very Applely/JohnnyIvey-like in touching the screen exactly right or “pop goes the weasel”. And when you browse the web in Safari and flick up to move rapidly between screens of text, same issue. But I digress.
Needless to say I won’t be upgrading.....
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I wasn’t 100% saying ‘it’s placebo’ but atm it’s as good an explanation as any other as their is no proof either.
I’m just wary of blowing things out of proportion and putting people off getting an XR.