Credibility is a myth. It amuses me when a group of people each claim the other has no credibility.
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Credibility is a myth. It amuses me when a group of people each claim the other has no credibility.
Right, let's see what the resale values are out in the future. So maybe ignorant consumers purchase by spec and smart consumers look to see how to best fund their next smartphone.
In all honesty, I don't need a flagship phone. It's probably the case for most persons on this forum. We get flagship phones because of want not need.
It depends on perspective. Some have no standing in online communities. While others gain respect/credibility based on how they act and how they treat others and the opinions/data they post.
Others say it is a myth because.........well they've never had it.......
Its a strange conclusion and before anybody say's Facebook is pro iPhone I would urge people to read a little more into that because they clearly aren't.
Android covers devices across a broad spectrum of prices so I suppose it is not surprising a good chunk of them are going to be lower end models. How many kids and teenagers world wide can afford £600 phones like the Android flagships? This covers a certain percentage of Facebook users because social media tends to spread from trends among the younger generation. Facebook is now popular across all ages of course.
I said originally that the outcome was strange but that is because I don't tend to notice or rarely discuss lower end devices, but leaving these out in my thoughts is obviously counter-productive. Its obviously a larger part of the market than I had given credit for.
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Apple are hardly likely to allow applications into their app store that don't work are they?
Android covers devices across a broad spectrum of prices so I suppose it is not surprising a good chunk of them are going to be lower end models. How many kids and teenagers world wide can afford £600 phones like the Android flagships? This covers a certain percentage of Facebook users because social media tends to spread from trends among the younger generation. Facebook is now popular across all ages of course.
I said originally that the outcome was strange but that is because I don't tend to notice or rarely discuss lower end devices, but leaving these out in my thoughts is obviously counter-productive. Its obviously a larger part of the market than I had given credit for.
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I don't know as though I can see the logic there. If iOS devices are run using 1GB of RAM, then the apps will be designed with this is mind. If Apple keep this spec for another couple of years then its hardly likely developers are suddenly going to create apps and programs that won't run and demand twice or three times the amount of RAM. With Android the specs differ hugely between manufacturers and this does mean certain apps won't run on all devices. With Apple they are producing the software and the hardware and are in a better position to ensure the devices do not become obsolete.
Apple are hardly likely to allow applications into their app store that don't work are they?
Agreed depends on perspective. For some people it's important to believe they have credibility. It's usually fairly easy to see who posts nonsense and how they treat people and whether there is name calling etc.
i agree though some people seem to have a stellar posting record, but those people are far and few between.
Wrong. Existing apps that aren't written for iPad Air 2 run much better without reloading and low memory crashes.
So are all devices that were produced before the iPad Air 2 now obsolete because they lack RAM then? Your example is a lot different to apps not working properly like I previously said.
I just sold a Verizon iPhone 4 (read the worst iPhone 4 since it is simless) for $100. Try selling an Android from 2010 for the same price and get back to me. Door stop my a$$.
Difference is you sold your 2010 iDevice because it's a useless brick and you found another sucker to buy it.
I'm not selling my 2010 Android device because I still use it as an IP phone/SMS/voicemail over WIFI, it's a lot more useful than newer iDevices like my iPad, OLED is much more suitable for streaming movies/shows and it doesn't suffer from Wirelurker and Masque Attack malware. I would've laughed if you tried to pawn it off on me. Only Apple device worth buying is iPad Air 2 since it isn't DRAM starved but it's still very limited compared to a 2012 Note II.
How about you price that 2010 Android phone that you have and share the price range? Please do that.
The biggest reason people switch to iOS from Android has nothing to do with Apple but people are so fed up with Android and want something more stable and less glitchy. so many people claim that Android "caught up to Apple" in the smoothness, stability, and lag but it's not true. My Android friends who use both say Apple is still way ahead in that department.
That most likely depends on the phone. My 5S is running pretty freakin fast and as far as bugs, I haven't seen any. Remember, those whoa re not having any problems with it don't have a reason to post about it so it seems so many are having problems.
8 runs fine on my 5C but was terrible on my iPad mini but I was lucky enough to be able to downgrade in time.
With all the issues with iOS 8 your post is laughable. Not to mention the study that showed apps crash more on iOS 7 than Android http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.x-is-more-than-twice-as-stable-as-iOS-7.1_id54459
Every year, specs get better. But consumers try to balance how much better from the prev phone they had and also balance out actual needs vs wants. If having 2K to 4K screens takes a hit on battery life within the next few years, I can see alot of us keeping our current smartphones within the last two years much longer.
By 2018, another FB tests will say Android users have iPhone 6 era specs or worse. We reached a point where hardware and software matured enough where we don't need to replace our smartphones every few years. Similar to TV's and laptops. The ones who do update are ones with the advantages of getting phones subsidized.
Most people are content just having a basic automobile to drive and a basic smartphone to use. Not everybody lives on caviar, purchase 50-inch 4K TV's, and wants to drive Bentleys and Mercedes-Benz. This is another reason why the iPad market is dying. Maturity in tech within our needs & wants creates contentment.
By 2018, another FB tests will say Android users have iPhone 6 era specs or worse. We reached a point where hardware and software matured enough where we don't need to replace our smartphones every few years. Similar to TV's and laptops. The ones who do update are ones with the advantages of getting phones subsidized.
Most people are content just having a basic automobile to drive and a basic smartphone to use. Not everybody lives on caviar, purchase 50-inch 4K TV's, and wants to drive Bentleys and Mercedes-Benz. This is another reason why the iPad market is dying. Maturity in tech within our needs & wants creates contentment.
Yap,. after looking at your blog it seems that you're totally unbiased and you have a lot of "friends" with Android
lol yeah, what the hell is this about?? "So now that Samsung Mobile is going to get the full anal review it is going to be VERY interesting to see what happens."
I own both an iPhone 6 on the latest iOS8 build and a Nexus 5 running the Android 5.0 Lollipop developer preview.
Not sure what phones your friends are using, but Android has been a joy to use since about 2 years ago with Jelly Bean. Now with Google's push into a fluid and intuitive material design aesthetic in Lollipop, I would easily put the UI on par with iOS. This is an assessment devoid of emotional bias as the iPhone is my primary device.
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Laggy bugfest? Mine has had a few force closures and there are a few UI glitches I have noticed (like the keyboard being out of view when you open it for posting on this very forum!) but that is far from being a 'laggy bugfest'.
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My Nexus 4 is now worth more than I bought it for. It has actually appreciated in value over time. Kind of puts things in perspective, huh?
You need to view iPhone's vs Android phones by how much of a percentage you lost in depreciation. You paid $500 for your iPhone 4 in 2010, while an Android phone may have only cost $300 (like say the Galaxy Nexus). You sell for $100 and the Android sells for $50. Who lost more money?
Friend of mine just bought a 2011 Motorola phone. Does he care? Nope. Just got it because he wanted off his dumphone and something to play games and have maps. Still has 1gb ram and a dual core and is running....gingerbread....*shudder*. Does he care? Nope. And that's how most people are. To people outside forums a phone is a phone.
You cannot compare a phone from 2012 (N4) to a phone from 2010 (iPhone 4). Please select any Android phone from 2010 and price it and post the range that it can be sold for. Go on Swappa for the info.
If you want to compare the price of your N4, then compare it to the price of the 2012 iphone 5. Both are 2012 phones. An unlocked iPhone 5 has an ASP of $287.6. An unlocked N4 has an ASP of $142.3. This is Nov 2014 pricing.
You've had a very different experience than me with Android. My experience was for the first 6 months updates came through as expected and then slowed down, that was if they received them at all. My Galaxy S3 was sold to a friend and after attempting to try and solve issues with it recently, I'm sure glad 2 years after I bought it I no longer have that device. Its probably faired the worst of any of the Android phone's I had over time.
I went through a stage of buying Android phone's outright and paid over £400 for a couple of them, only to sell them 12 months later for less than £150. They did not hold their value because people can buy newer models for the same second-hand price of the older ones. The good thing about the iPhone is it holds its value because the demand is there and they sell. Its not about selling it to another 'sucker', that is just plain rude and offensive to judge people like that. At what point did you think it was appropriate to insult people because they have a different buying criteria to you? Also why should anybody care that you don't condone their choice for buying an iPhone? Android is a good option for some people and I am glad I spent 4 years using it, but the market gives you choice and no decision is a bad one as long as it suits you the individual. Reality check for you I think.
I personally think something like a Moto E is probably the best basic Android phone for under $120 and certainly comparable in every aspect to the iPhone 4 aside from design where the iPhone clearly wins. Everything else is a much better experience in my opinion. Using the iPhone 4 on iOS 7 is pretty painful. But I will agree, the 4/4s are some of the best designed phones to date.
Yeah I laughed when I first saw that image doing the rounds on social media, not because it shames the iPhone 6, but because it is incredibly inaccurate and appears to have mislead so many people who evidently don't have a clue about the true performance of the devices in the picture. I don't generally care for what is in my phone because its user experience that counts for me, but with my basic knowledge I was able to see how rubbish this comparison was.
I had a few friends sharing it and and suggesting we were buying 2 year old tech but had no answers when I said:
1. The iPhone 6 has a A8 chip with 64 Bit architecture. Even the 5S was faster than the Nexus 4 for many applications. It is faster than many devices using Quad-core processors too.
2. The iPhone since the 5 has had LTE, the Nexus doesn't.
3. The Camera. Anybody who has compared knows this doesn't have to be explained.
Those 3 alone impact heavily on the user experience IMO. The Nexus was a fantastic budget phone and a lot for you buck, but I had little time for people attempting to try and compare it with the iPhone 6. All that comes before the design is compared and lets face it the Nexus gives a lot of features at the expense of the external design. When buying a phone for many it comes down to budget, and preference of operating system. For me it is purely the OS and having invested in enough devices over the years I currently reside with iOS. Like you agree this in-fighting over products is silly because personal preference can not be measured just by pointing out features on a smartphone.