Finally Apple.

[Act3]

Just as not everyone (by far) experiences any bothersome issues, let alone ones that are "horrific" or make their devices "unusable" or "ruined" or anything even close to that.

I've seen a handful of people on these forums that will defend Apple against any complaint someone brings up.

I've also seen a handful of those who have complained when iOS 9 first came out that are now complimenting Apple for making improvements and optimizing things.

If I was a new user, I'd take more credibility in the latter handful of peoples opinions.

 

[Michael Goff]

I've seen a handful of people on these forums that will defend Apple against any complaint someone brings up.

I've also seen a handful of those who have complained when iOS 9 first came out that are now complimenting Apple for making improvements and optimizing things.

If I was a new user, I'd take more credibility in the latter handful of peoples opinions.

It's almost like people want to admit when somebody starts doing something right as opposed to being one extreme or the other.

 

[C DM]

I've seen a handful of people on these forums that will defend Apple against any complaint someone brings up.

I've also seen a handful of those who have complained when iOS 9 first came out that are now complimenting Apple for making improvements and optimizing things.

If I was a new user, I'd take more credibility in the latter handful of peoples opinions.

That seems to leave out the handful that isn't budging from complaints no matter what. And the handful that will provide rational counterbalance to various exaggerated extremes while also seeing and discussing issues in a realistic manner. Again, just like the issues and experiences go, we as users discussing things aren't purely divided into one extreme group or another--even or especially in this aspect reality is far more nuanced than the simplicity of just either this or that.

 

[Armen]

Isn't it amazing that not everyone shares the same opinion that you have? Not everyone believes Apple can do no wrong.

I think you are forgetting something. People who are happy with Apple and iOS won't come here to post about how happy they are. Nice try though.
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8.4.1 was PERFECT.It was smooth EVERYWHERE.The sad fact is that we are getting happy over 9.3 release when we are given something we were already given 6 months ago in the form of 8.4.1 except its a more diluted version.I would point out performance as a feature if it actually improved things rather than intentinally dumbing down performance and then optimising it with the end result being a big fat ZERO
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Your video means nothing to me just like my video showing no stutter or lag in iOS 9 meant nothing to you.

 

[I7guy]

This discussion isn't about reliability and stability, it is about performance. Do you even try to read before you post something?
[doublepost=1452880635][/doublepost]How is this relevant? Apple promised us that iOS 9 would have improved performance but the reaility is that iOS 9 does not have improved performance, that sucks. How difficult is it to grasp that idea?
[doublepost=1452880763][/doublepost]If Apple will slow down the 6s like it slowed down the 6, then yes this conversation will repeat. And yes that is annoying. But that's Apple's fault for crippling $1000 devices after just one year...

did you even read what I posted?

Performance means many things to different people. One measure could mean opening an app; another could mean editing a movie in iMovie or rendering a website in safari.

 

[Act3]

I think you are forgetting something. People who are happy with Apple and iOS won't come here to post about how happy they are. Nice try though.

yea no one ever posts that here. Not sure how this thread even got started if that was the case.

 

[TC03]

did you even read what I posted?

Performance means many things to different people. One measure could mean opening an app; another could mean editing a movie in iMovie or rendering a website in safari.

Dear god. iOS 9 stutters all over the place while Apple promised it be smooth. Stop starting this discussion over and over.
[doublepost=1452885165][/doublepost]

Let's put it this way. I can't tell the different between 8.4.1 and 9.3 on my 6+. Is that clear enough?

This forum has become so Toxic and anti-iOS that new users are asking if they should upgrade their brand new 6S phones to 9.x based on the nonsense that they read here posted by a few people that have nothing better to do with their lives than to look for something to complain about.

Of course Mods won't do anything about it because it doesn't violate any terms of use.

It is toxic because many people are frustrated by the performance of iOS and then people say stuff like "no it's all in your head it doesn't perform bad". If you simply admitted to the fact that iOS 9 has issues it would not be so to toxic.

People like you make it toxic. You are making it a toxic simply by defending Apple irrationally. You are simply not making sense.
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That seems to leave out the handful that isn't budging from complaints no matter what. And the handful that will provide rational counterbalance to various exaggerated extremes while also seeing and discussing issues in a realistic manner. Again, just like the issues and experiences go, we as users discussing things aren't purely divided into one extreme group or another--even or especially in this aspect reality is far more nuanced than the simplicity of just either this or that.

Again, stop making things so unnecessary difficult.

iOS 9 was promised to be smoother. Is it smoother than iOS 8? No.

That's all there is to it! Stop making more out of it! You sound like some estranged politician who can't answer a question straight...

 

[C DM]

yea no one ever posts that here. Not sure how this thread even got started if that was the case.

The thread is coming from someone who hasn't been happy and has been posting about it and is now noticing some differences. Fairly different from someone who has been happy and hasn't been posting about it since there's not much to post about something simply doing what someone needs and wants it to do.

 

[Radon87000]

Perfect? That's almost funny. Just as much as iPhone 7 rumors are something factual. (And still continues to conveniently ignore most of what I've been talking about and what was brought up earlier in the thread, simply deflecting onto something else.)
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Just as not everyone (by far) experiences any bothersome issues, let alone ones that are "horrific" or make their devices "unusable" or "ruined" or anything even close to that.

Almost all the rumours about iPhone 6s came out to be true.Lets be real here,Apple's supply chain can't keep secrets like at all.

 

[C DM]

Dear god. iOS 9 stutters all over the place while Apple promised it be smooth. Stop starting this discussion over and over.
[doublepost=1452885165][/doublepost]It is toxic because many people are frustrated by the performance of iOS and then people say stuff like "no it's all in your head it doesn't perform bad". If you simply admitted to the fact that iOS 9 has issues it would not be so to toxic.

People like you make it toxic. You are making it a toxic simply by defending Apple irrationally. You are simply not making sense.
[doublepost=1452885369][/doublepost]Again, stop making things so unnecessary difficult.

iOS 9 was promised to be smoother. Is it smoother than iOS 8? No.

That's all there is to it! Stop making more out of it! You sound like some estranged politician who can't answer a question straight...

Seems like things are being made complicated when things are being deflected from one thing to another. I bring up some things and in response something else gets deflected. Talk about politicians.
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Almost all the rumours about iPhone 6s came out to be true.Lets be real here,Apple's supply chain can't keep secrets like at all.

Almost all of the rumors? Considering there were so many of them there's no way to even begin to prove that at all. And whether or not a guess or a rumor came out to be right in some way down the line, certainly didn't make it factual in any way at the time. Purely basic logic. Come on, we've definitely crossed into silliness now.

 

[Radon87000]

I think you are forgetting something. People who are happy with Apple and iOS won't come here to post about how happy they are. Nice try though.
[doublepost=1452884683][/doublepost]

Your video means nothing to me just like my video showing no stutter or lag in iOS 9 meant nothing to you.

I can't make you see stutter if you refuse to see it.Anyone with a sharp working set of eyes who has used 8.4.1 extensively can see the frame stutter in control centre and spotlight prior to 9.3 easily.

 

[TC03]

Seems like things are being made complicated when things are being deflected from one thing to another. I bring up some things and in response something else gets deflected. Talk about politicians.

I don't deflect anything.

 

[zorinlynx]

Of course they got it right, just in time for iOS 10 when it will turn into crap again.

It's the same ordeal every year.

 

[C DM]

I don't deflect anything.

You keep on bringing the discussion to marketing promises and living up to them in reponses to my comments while my comments are talking about other aspects of it all (and have addressed the part about marketing and that things rarely live up to it--not to say that it's good or right, as it's certainly not, as I've made that point many times, but that it's the simple reality that has been around for ages.)

 

[TC03]

You keep on bringing the discussion to marketing promises and living up to them in reponses to my comments while my comments are talking about other aspects of it all (and have addressed the part about marketing and that things rarely live up to it--not to say that it's good or right, as it's certainly not, as I've made that point many times, but that it's the simple reality that has been around for ages.)

So what point do you make? So you agree that performance has degraded but you don't think it's bad?

 

[C DM]

So what point do you make? So you agree that performance has degraded but you don't think it's bad?

The points that I've made in various posts and replies in this thead, about things like needless exaggerations, people saying things won't get better and yet here we are, about comparing final releases of a previous versions of an OS to initial releases of a new version of an OS, about things repeating themselves in more or less the same manner year after year...those kinds of things.

 

[Jayson A]

I complained that 9.0 beta was slow. Everyone said "relax, it's only a beta, it will be fixed in the final release. Metal probably hasn't been enabled yet or it's indexing."


Final release of 9.0 comes and it's exactly the same... "You just updated. It has to index first..." Or "Wait until 9.1 comes out"

9.1 comes out. It's a little better but nothing like 8. "Metal is new, you gotta give it time to mature"

9.2 comes out. It's a little better than 9.1, but nothing like 8. "Wait until 9.3"

I'm tired of WAITING for things that were promised a long time ago.

 

[madara889]

I complained that 9.0 beta was slow. Everyone said "relax, it's only a beta, it will be fixed in the final release. Metal probably hasn't been enabled yet or it's indexing."


Final release of 9.0 comes and it's exactly the same... "You just updated. It has to index first..." Or "Wait until 9.1 comes out"

9.1 comes out. It's a little better but nothing like 8. "Metal is new, you gotta give it time to mature"

9.2 comes out. It's a little better than 9.1, but nothing like 8. "Wait until 9.3"

I'm tired of WAITING for things that were promised a long time ago.

I agree with you

 

[kshen1]

I complained that 9.0 beta was slow. Everyone said "relax, it's only a beta, it will be fixed in the final release. Metal probably hasn't been enabled yet or it's indexing."


Final release of 9.0 comes and it's exactly the same... "You just updated. It has to index first..." Or "Wait until 9.1 comes out"

9.1 comes out. It's a little better but nothing like 8. "Metal is new, you gotta give it time to mature"

9.2 comes out. It's a little better than 9.1, but nothing like 8. "Wait until 9.3"

I'm tired of WAITING for things that were promised a long time ago.

:/ That sucks.

 

[vertsix]

I am very pleased with 9.3 PB 1, mainly because of the performance improvements to Control Center. Not as smooth as it was with 8.4.1 on a 5s, but I am still loving it. I really hope they improve the performance more in the upcoming releases.

But for now, very satisfied with that and Night Shift.

 

[pat500000]

finally Apple has fixed the frame drops in iOS 9. Everything on iPad Air is feeling smoother. I would say it's close to 8.4.1 now, hopefully by beta 4 every little bug will be sorted out. Seems like Apple is finally getting their head out of their asses.

From what version of IOS?

 

[Armen]

I can't make you see stutter if you refuse to see it.Anyone with a sharp working set of eyes who has used 8.4.1 extensively can see the frame stutter in control centre and spotlight prior to 9.3 easily.

Do you actually believe the crap you say? Are you seriously telling me I refuse to see stutter therefore it is not there for me or that I need special vision to see it?

 

[Elisha]

Every company makes empty promises when they sell you something. Same as how they all exaggerate performance figures.
I can't comment on 8.4.1 but 9.3 beta is decent. Hopefully they fix the battery drain before it becomes official!

 

[Armen]

Hopefully they fix the battery drain before it becomes official!

That's another topic people can't seem to agree on. I see 10-12 hours of battery per day while others swear up and down it lasts half of that.

 

[Radon87000]

That's another topic people can't seem to agree on. I see 10-12 hours of battery per day while others swear up and down it lasts half of that.

I get 6-7 hours of screen on time on my iPhone 6