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sanke1

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After using 9.3 B1 extensively on my 5s, I think it was a placebo. It is still the same stuttery mess in Control Center.

A stutter is a stutter. I don't have Air 1 or iPhone 6 to verify those claims.
 

vertsix

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After using 9.3 B1 extensively on my 5s, I think it was a placebo. It is still the same stuttery mess in Control Center.

A stutter is a stutter. I don't have Air 1 or iPhone 6 to verify those claims.

I am extremely vigilant for imperfections of anything, and I can confirm that there is an improvement.

Stuttering still occurs on the 5s, but it's a lot less than what it was before.

I'm certain it is not a placebo.
 

Act3

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That's another topic people can't seem to agree on. I see 10-12 hours of battery per day while others swear up and down it lasts half of that.
I get 6-7 hours usually on my 6s. I attribute that to the weak cell signal at my work.
 
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sanke1

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I am extremely vigilant for imperfections of anything, and I can confirm that there is an improvement.

Stuttering still occurs on the 5s, but it's a lot less than what it was before.

I'm certain it is not a placebo.
Hmm. The only place there is 100% improvement is Touch ID animations on 6S. They are 60fps now. This is a proof that Apple can totally fix lag and stutter if they wish to.

But this blatant ignorance to polish the UI is getting too much.
 

Radon87000

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I am extremely vigilant for imperfections of anything, and I can confirm that there is an improvement.

Stuttering still occurs on the 5s, but it's a lot less than what it was before.

I'm certain it is not a placebo.
The place where they removed stutter is that little jiggle the CC does when you drag it up.Its smooth there but there are slight stutters before it reaches that area
 

TC03

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I complained that 9.0 beta was slow. Everyone said "relax, it's only a beta, it will be fixed in the final release. Metal probably hasn't been enabled yet or it's indexing."


Final release of 9.0 comes and it's exactly the same... "You just updated. It has to index first..." Or "Wait until 9.1 comes out"

9.1 comes out. It's a little better but nothing like 8. "Metal is new, you gotta give it time to mature"

9.2 comes out. It's a little better than 9.1, but nothing like 8. "Wait until 9.3"

I'm tired of WAITING for things that were promised a long time ago.
There's lies, damned lies, and there's indexing.

Oh, and "just wait, it's still beta" of course.

Anyway, I hope that 9.3 will be for iOS 9 what 7.1 was for iOS 7. 7.1 became a little smoother each beta, let's just hope this is the case with 9.3 as well.
 

MaciMac100

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There's lies, damned lies, and there's indexing.

Oh, and "just wait, it's still beta" of course.

Anyway, I hope that 9.3 will be for iOS 9 what 7.1 was for iOS 7. 7.1 became a little smoother each beta, let's just hope this is the case with 9.3 as well.

If 9.3 takes one step forward, then iOS 10.0 will take two steps back... :confused:
 

vertsix

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The place where they removed stutter is that little jiggle the CC does when you drag it up.Its smooth there but there are slight stutters before it reaches that area

Yes, but it's a lot less significant than it was before.
 

Elisha

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That's another topic people can't seem to agree on. I see 10-12 hours of battery per day while others swear up and down it lasts half of that.
On average it seems to be about 15% worse. But it still gets me trough the day so I'm not complaining.
 

asv56kx3088

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I complained that 9.0 beta was slow. Everyone said "relax, it's only a beta, it will be fixed in the final release. Metal probably hasn't been enabled yet or it's indexing."


Final release of 9.0 comes and it's exactly the same... "You just updated. It has to index first..." Or "Wait until 9.1 comes out"

9.1 comes out. It's a little better but nothing like 8. "Metal is new, you gotta give it time to mature"

9.2 comes out. It's a little better than 9.1, but nothing like 8. "Wait until 9.3"

I'm tired of WAITING for things that were promised a long time ago.
This is so true. It's really sad that some on this forum are constantly defending for apple for an unoptimised software.
 
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C DM

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This is so true. It's really sad that some on this forum are constantly defending for apple for an unoptimised software.
How does that compare to some who are in this forum that constantly overexaggerate and and talk in extremes and absolutes?
 
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oldmacs

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Hopefully 9.3 runs nicely on the iPad Mini 2. The stuttering under 9.0 was excessively annoying, 9.1 and 9.2 have both improved, but are still far from Apple's promises. Given its not in Apple's best interests to slow the Mini 2 and I don't buy into Apple purposefully slowing devices (in the sense of them writing code to do so) but I think its clear iOS 9 should have been in development for a lot longer (iOS 8 is the same, and iOS 7.1 should have probably been the first release of iOS 7).
 

Max(IT)

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But weren't people saying that iOS 9 is just horrific and there was just no hope for it and it wouldn't improve (despite they it worked it that way for iOS 8 and 7 before it, and clearly working out that way for iOS 9 now)? Yeah...
Every. Single. Year.
It was the same in iOS 7 -> iOS 8 and it will be the same in iOS 9 -> iOS 10

So you're blaming people for losing hope because three months after beta the software still feels like beta?

Btw, Apple promised performance improvements. This would mean that 9.0 should have been faster than 8.4.1, at least. Currently, iOS 9.3 is still worse than 8.4.1 in terms of performance. So there's quite a gap between how it is and how it should be.

Apple still hasn't lived up to their promises, nearly five months after the release.
That's your opinion.
In my opinion iOS 9 is better than iOS 8 since the beginning...

Yeah and it still isn't as fast as 8.4.1.Point still stands



It's been 4 months and it still isn't as fast as 8.4.1

Your personal opinion
 
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TC03

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Every. Single. Year.
It was the same in iOS 7 -> iOS 8 and it will be the same in iOS 9 -> iOS 10


That's your opinion.
In my opinion iOS 9 is better than iOS 8 since the beginning...



Your personal opinion
I don't think it's an opinion, stuttering animations and delays between opening apps is something that's quite factual.
 
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Max(IT)

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Isn't which operating system is better why there are pages and pages of essentially the same thing being said on all sides. While iOS 8 never killed my phone, good riddance, it was the least favorite operating system in the last few years'as Apple really had some growing pains with iOS 8.

With iOS 9 Apple did keep their "promise" if that's what you call it.
ios 9 is the best iOS I've ever seen....
I wasn't so happy about iOS 8 initially.
Now iOS 8 was the Mother of every iOS ....

I distinctly remember the SAME EXACT DISCUSSIONS about iOS 8 in relation to iOS 7 one year before.

You know what's annoying? How this conversation will repeat this year with iOS 10 and how iOS 9 which was "slow" "sluggish" will suddenly be the "ideal" iOS before iOS 10.
Haters gonna hate...

I have a 6+ and it works fine on iOS 9.3. Of course that's not possible right considering all the whining being done here?

Let's put it this way. I can't tell the different between 8.4.1 and 9.3 on my 6+. Is that clear enough?

This forum has become so Toxic and anti-iOS that new users are asking if they should upgrade their brand new 6S phones to 9.x based on the nonsense that they read here posted by a few people that have nothing better to do with their lives than to look for something to complain about.

Of course Mods won't do anything about it because it doesn't violate any terms of use.
As I said several times, this forum lately became an haters' nest.
Every single news about Apple, even if positive, is followed by very harsh comments.
People here are literally scared, and looking for issues they didn't notice on their devices.
Astonishing....
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I don't think it's an opinion, stuttering animations and delays between opening apps is something that's quite factual.
It's not, since I don't have it on ANY of my iDevices, including an aging iPad Air and an iPhone 5s ...
 

Vexxx

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Slower frame rates are not an opinion as anyone can measure them. No matter how small it may sound but it is a fact. Why mislead on this?

If you do not see it on one device you propably wont see them on any device. So kind of pointless to say not having them on any iDevice. I have not seen an iDevice that does not have it.
 
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oldmacs

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I have not seen an iDevice that does not have it.

Thats me as well. I've used plenty of iDevices since iOS 9 came out. Even the iPad Pro and Air 2 stutter - particularly noticeable when using the split screen multitasking menu and in opening folders.

I'm all for being proven wrong though. If someone wants to demonstrate iOS 9 not stuttering on devices like the Air 1, Mini 2 etc then go ahead.
 
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Zirel

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finally Apple has fixed the frame drops in iOS 9. Everything on iPad Air is feeling smoother. I would say it's close to 8.4.1 now, hopefully by beta 4 every little bug will be sorted out. Seems like Apple is finally getting their head out of their asses.

The question is… was 8.4.1 better?

Or are you seeing the past with rose-colored glasses?
 
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Michael Goff

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The question is… was 8.4.1 better?

Or are you seeing the past with rose-colored glasses?

Just wait.

When 10.0 comes out, we shall see threads about how 9.5 or whatever the last version was happened to lag so much less and was the pinnacle of iOS. Thus Apple is purposely hindering our devices and Apple hates us'
 
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Zirel

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Just wait.

When 10.0 comes out, we shall see threads about how 9.5 or whatever the last version was happened to lag so much less and was the pinnacle of iOS. Thus Apple is purposely hindering our devices and Apple hates us'

Exactly.

And right now, 9.3 is the best, because it's in beta. When it's released, it will buggy as hell, full of stutters and intentional lag, with MUCH worse battery life (with all conviction, just after 12 hours of release)
 
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Jayson A

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Installed 9.3 on my iPhone this morning. Two things I've noticed about performance...

1. Best iOS 9 iteration there has ever been.
2. Still not as smooth as 8.x

That is all. They're slowly getting there.
 
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Act3

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Installed 9.3 on my iPhone this morning. Two things I've noticed about performance...

1. Best iOS 9 iteration there has ever been.
2. Still not as smooth as 8.x

That is all. They're slowly getting there.

Pretty much sums it up, in my opinion.
 
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