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I almost considered not buying the 3g iPhone Friday after reading the reviews about the battery life and the pointlessness of the GPS, but that amazing audio reviews of both speakers (which has been a chief concern of mine) brought me back on board. Glad to hear the speakers are not only better quality, but louder! Also, the 8 gigs is getting too crammed. I need at least 16.
 
To those who want copy/paste.

Do you want:
Text?
Text and Images?
Text, Images, Movies, Sounds?
Text, Images, Movies, Sounds, Documents?

I imagine the main technical problem is not the UI, but how to allocate resources. I'm not trying to make excuses for Apple or saying Apple shouldn't have fixed it by now (they should have prioritised!). I'm just saying that thinking about it, copy/paste is probably not as easy to implement as it first sounds.

I've never had a phone with copy and paste. I'd be interested to see how it is handled with S60 and Blackberry software? Can someone fill me in?
 
I almost considered not buying the 3g iPhone Friday after reading the reviews about the battery life and the pointlessness of the GPS, but that amazing audio reviews of both speakers (which has been a chief concern of mine) brought me back on board. Glad to hear the speakers are not only better quality, but louder! Also, the 8 gigs is getting too crammed. I need at least 16.

I too was turned off by those reviews and contemplated not getting the new one, but the speaker quality has gotten me back on board.
 
JMax1 said:
I want to know if you can hook the iPhone up with the new software up to a projector and display a powerpoint attachment.
I would assume that's possible with Apple's iPhone video adapter and the new software support for reading PowerPoint files. You would be limited to the resolution of the screen though... so some powerpoint files would probably render really weird...
 
To those who want copy/paste.

Do you want:
Text?
Text and Images?
Text, Images, Movies, Sounds?
Text, Images, Movies, Sounds, Documents?

I imagine the main technical problem is not the UI, but how to allocate resources. I'm not trying to make excuses for Apple or saying Apple shouldn't have fixed it by now (they should have prioritised!). I'm just saying that thinking about it, copy/paste is probably not as easy to implement as it first sounds.

I've never had a phone with copy and paste. I'd be interested to see how it is handled with S60 and Blackberry software? Can someone fill me in?

On your blackberry you hit the shift button, scroll your wheel then click your "menu" button, and select "Copy" then go to where you want to paste the captured info, then click the "menu" button again, and select paste.
 
I would assume that's possible with Apple's iPhone video adapter and the new software support for reading PowerPoint files. You would be limited to the resolution of the screen though... so those 800x600 powerpoint files would probably render really weird...

Why not the resolution of the file and projector?
 
To those who want copy/paste.

Do you want:
Text?
Text and Images?
Text, Images, Movies, Sounds?
Text, Images, Movies, Sounds, Documents?

I imagine the main technical problem is not the UI, but how to allocate resources. I'm not trying to make excuses for Apple or saying Apple shouldn't have fixed it by now (they should have prioritised!). I'm just saying that thinking about it, copy/paste is probably not as easy to implement as it first sounds.

I've never had a phone with copy and paste. I'd be interested to see how it is handled with S60 and Blackberry software? Can someone fill me in?

I'm not sure how Copy and Paste is handled, either, on cell phones, but I don't imagine it'd be pretty hard. Excuse me, people who know what they're talking about, as I'm clueless...but couldn't you just set it up so, let's say (and I'm just making this up off the top of my head) you put two fingers on the screen (like you do with two-finger scrolling on a Macintosh) and slide it across the text to highlight, then either have some buttons on the virtual keyboard, or have some gesture to do it. It makes sense to me, but then again, I don't know how it works, so, I'm talking out of my ass.

Edit: Also, something similar...you could place your finger where you want to begin so that it magnifies (like it does), then place the second finger on the screen and drag through where you want? The iPhone already has multi-touch, so it shouldn't be that hard. (to highlight)

On your blackberry you hit the shift button, scroll your wheel then click your "menu" button, and select "Copy" then go to where you want to paste the captured info, then click the "menu" button again, and select paste.

...Sounds a bit confusing...
 
I'm really surprised it doesn't have voice dialing. OS X already has speech recognition, and with a limited domain like a list of known names, it should be able to achieve very good accuracy.
 
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I thought I saw it do turn by turn navigation when Jobs debute it on WWDC?? was I seeing things...the dot was moving!!

Pogue is saying it's not accurate enough to tell you "turn in 2 miles, 1 mile, 0.5 miles" etc. that most GPS would.
 
Sky Blue is right...

GPS is very useful in the iphone but there is no turn by turn directions meaning that it will not give you voice or distance... (2mi 0.5mi)
 
cooomooon why it has to be so slow ??? why we cant get normal camera, normal GPS WHY??? it's not a cheap toy.
 
I'm still not sure what they mean. The other review said it was "very accurate." It seems to me that if it's accurate it could do turn-by-turn, and if it can't, it can't be described as "accurate."

So we'll just have to wait and see.

Accurate doesn't mean it's able to pick and hold a signal well enough to provide turn by turn direction when driving. It just means that when it does tell you where you are that it's accurate. See the difference?
 
Now since i cant use it for turn by turn directions, it's basically a blackberry with worse keyboard, and better application support...
Well, given that Apple's iPhone SDK license appears to expressly disallow such applications (real-time route guidance), it's not surprising. For details, see section 3.3.7 of the license.
 
Pogue is saying it's not accurate enough to tell you "turn in 2 miles, 1 mile, 0.5 miles" etc. that most GPS would.

Job's demo showed a decent fix and a quickly refreshing dynamic one at that. We'll have to see when others test it - maybe BGR has the brains to do the test, after BGR fins out that the initial review have some testing missing.
 
If A-GPS isn't available, won't it then query via the satellite to obtain your location?

If you aren't in range of any cell towers, it will still be able to get your location from the GPS receiver, it just won't be able to pull down any map information to plot your location on. And seeing as the Google Maps app doesn't actually tell you the location (i.e. your coordinates), without a map it's a bit useless.

I'm sure some apps will come out that give you the raw longitude/latitude coordinates, though.
 
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I thought I saw it do turn by turn navigation when Jobs debute it on WWDC?? was I seeing things...the dot was moving!!

Yes because a satellite was tracking the phone's position over time and the data was made into the recorded video used in the keynote. I would guess.

On another note what i heard on twit was that the GPS chip powers on and off intermittently to save battery life, which is why it can't do turn by turn since turn by turn requires you to have a GPS lock at ALL times
 
No copy and paste. Wow. Unbelievable. This is starting to smell like a repeat of the one-button mouse debacle where it took Apple 20 years to admit they were wrong, except this is much worse because copy and paste even more vital, and has no replacement or substitute. Major bummer, this was probably #1 on my wish list.
 
Plastic Back

I am interested to know how the new plastic back stands up to day to day use/abuse. The reports say it feels nice in the hand but I can't help but think that the metal back of the original iPhone was stronger and better quality.
I also thought Apply was moving more of their products, such as the iMac, to aluminium as it is more environmentally friendly. I would have thought that the iPhone is Apple’s most consumerable product (being a mobile phone) and would make the most of a more environmentally friendly solution to plastic.
 
Yes because a satellite was tracking the phone's position over time and the data was made into the recorded video used in the keynote. I would guess.

On another note what i heard on twit was that the GPS chip powers on and off intermittently to save battery life, which is why it can't do turn by turn since turn by turn requires you to have a GPS lock at ALL times

Unless that turning on and off is hardwired, if you could modulate the frequency at which it does this, or have manual control over it, then you could get much better lock - it would drain battery, but you're in a car! Pop the darn thing into a charger!
 
I haven't watched the video, but according to Engadget, Walt states you can only sync either Exchange or personal accounts and not both at the same time. That absolutely stinks! You mean I can't have the push features for both my work email (Exchange) and personal accounts (was planning on purchasing MobileMe)?! Why not?

Yeah. This I do not understand. You can have everything pushed and synced to the phone but...you can only have either business OR personal calendars or contacts on it? WTF is the point then?

I have a .Mac/MobileMe account where all my personal contacts are stored and synced with my phone now. But if I also want my business stuff to sync to the phone I can't have my personal stuff too? That is a big, big oversight. Seriously not happy with that. I guess I'll have to just deal with it just syncing my Exchange email and nothing else. That blows.
 
You guys are misunderstanding the GPS comments, it's not accurate enough to know exactly where you are and for example say "Turn left in 300 feet", but it will still give you a line to follow and show you where you are on that line. Still seems pretty useful to me.
 
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