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matrix07

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Jun 24, 2010
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I do plan to wait. And this was the point of this Forbes article. While the M1's performance is awesome, it is not better in every way than its Intel-based predecessors, and many users should wait for future Apple Silicon models.
Many who needs 2 external monitors already wait. They don‘t need an awful Forbes article which doesn’t get basic things right, like running Edge on M1, to tell them. The author is like an amateur.
 

KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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It's perfectly reasonable, and far more informative to write a balanced article showing pros and cons, for example, this one from PCMag.

 
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smoking monkey

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Mar 5, 2008
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I think the biggest problem with fan sites and communities is that they create an echo chamber of positive opinions, and this has the potential to drive any brand to the abyss.

Here's the problem: because people in fan communities tend to only talk positively of brand products, the brand will not easily see what's wrong with their own products, thinking that everything is all right when it's not.

The M1 Mac does have flaws. Remember, it's an M1 generation product to begin with. Many programs will simply not work out of the box. There is no good alternative for virtualization yet. You can run 32-bit and 64-bit Windows apps with Crossover, but you have no good alternative for 32-bit MacOS apps. Apple has discontinued support for external GPUs.

Those are flaws that Apple must be aware of and address if they want a larger userbase (and they do). For example, Crossover has proved that legacy compatility at a reasonable speed CAN be attained, and it doesn't have to be integrated into the operating system. It can be developed and sold as a separate component. If Crossover can create separate software to run legacy software, so can Apple.

Also, another flaw of communities is that they lead to the thinking that everyone that doesn't like a brand's products is misguided, wrong, or flat out dishonest, which is not true. There are perfectly valid reasons not to like a product even if it's well-designed for its purpose.
If anything MR Forum community has been pretty harsh on Apple in the past several years. Some warranted and some not in my opinion. Sometimes I agree and sometimes not. Apple certainly ain't perfect. Far from it.

I also think that a fan community has little impact on the 2nd biggest company in the world. We are but a tiny fraction of the user base of Apple Products.

Apple has released 3 low tier machines that replace 3 low tier intel machines. Overall they are incredible releases. Something I never thought I'd say again for Apple. Credit where it is due. Are they for all users? Absolutely not. And those users need to bide their time until the system becomes more robust.

As for flaws. I don't think that's quite the right word. More like shortcomings at the moment that more than likely get rectified as the tech matures. Although some may never get rectified. We just don't know yet. And... intel macs are still being sold. They are solid machines. Apple is giving us the choice. I don't really get the issue to be honest. Sounds like some people want it all and they want it now!

I honestly believe there is some dummy spitting going on. People who really shouldn't be getting these machines are desperate for them because they are so exciting and new. But because they don't fit their needs they are frustrated to miss out on the latest tech or are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Don't underestimate the pettiness of the tech world.

As for your final sentence. Not sure that makes sense. It's like saying: This well designed 4WD is totally frustrating to drive on narrow city streets! Argh! I don't like it! That's not a valid opinion. That's just being a bit silly.
 

Suxamethonium

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Jun 19, 2014
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I must be doing something wrong with my M1 MacBook Air, I just finished writing documents in Word without a hitch including linking to my organisations OneDrive service, I have teams running and it works just fine and have my work e-mail coming in through Outlook while driving a single external display.

I agree that some people shouldn't be getting these machines, but should instead be looking at them as a good sign for the machines that are coming that they should get. If you are currently working on a 16" MBP with 2 external displays and a battery of external devices then these are not the Mac's you are looking for. They are coming, and if this is what the entry level of Apple Silicon Mac's, the higher end MacBook Pro's, the iMac's and the Mac Pro based on Apple Silicon could be very exciting indeed.

I suspect Apple will have to move fairly soon, the higher end machines are profitable, and now they are basically dead products for most users unless they desperately need Bootcamp or something else dependent on x86 support. For anyone else why would you buy an Intel 16" MBP now, when you know that it's performance is nearly matched by a 13" MacBook Air and that something better in the 16" range must be coming.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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He's probably incorrectly comparing it to the 4-port MacBook Pro, which has 2 fans. The M1 released last week replaced the 2-port MacBook Pro that had only 1 fan.
...That would undercut his credentials as a “journalist” even further. Let me review this Honda Accord and comment about how it’s different somehow from the higher end Acura TLX.
 

russell_314

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Feb 10, 2019
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He's probably incorrectly comparing it to the 4-port MacBook Pro, which has 2 fans. The M1 released last week replaced the 2-port MacBook Pro that had only 1 fan.
This guy is obviously a paid shill for M$. There are plenty of unbiased reviews if you don't trust the more Apple friendly reviewers.
 
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iMi

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Sep 13, 2014
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Yawn, another “expert” flopping his gums. World’s #1 analyst... if he’s so insightful, he must have had the foresight to revolutionize the industry. No? He just writes opinions about it? Yeah, thought so...
 

KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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To be perfectly fair though, who shouldn't buy is just as important as who should.
And if your software demands are limited to Microsoft Edge, Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft Word, Microsoft OneNote and Microsoft Skype for Business then maybe a Mac isn't for you. Perhaps Microsoft Windows is more suited to you.
To quote the "analyst" himself; "I think the new MacBook Pro 13” M1 will be fine for users who use 100% Apple software[...]".
I think the guy should stick to his Microsoft Surface which is fine for users who use 100% Microsoft software.
True, but PCMag did a much better job of answering that question. They acknowledged the M1 Macs are great computers but that it isn’t necessary or desirable for certain classes of buyers to make the leap now.
 

psingh01

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Apr 19, 2004
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Its a reasonable review that talks of incompatibilities and performance issues in some real world use cases. If they don’t apply to you then fine. But they do affect many people. I find this type of review much more useful than running synthetic benchmarks like geekbench.
 

KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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Forbes have been writing anti-apple stories for years. It’s their thing. There is one particular writer, can’t rent his name, but it became ridiculous how much venom he threw at every new Apple product that was released over the years. I’ve blocked all and every Forbes article I’ve come across since.
Gordon Kelly. Apple could cure cancer tomorrow and he’d find a reason to complain.
 

Bandaman

Cancelled
Aug 28, 2019
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Wait, what year is this? Who on earth is using WinZip especially on a Mac? I feel like I need a shower after reading this.
WinZip has always been crap, even on Windows.


Wait, what year is this? Who on earth is using WinZip especially on a Mac? I feel like I need a shower after reading this.
He sounds like he shouldn't be reviewing anything, let alone Macs. This may be the dumbest review I've ever read.
 

laptech

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Apr 26, 2013
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It's perfectly reasonable, and far more informative to write a balanced article showing pros and cons, for example, this one from PCMag.

That is not a 'balanced review' in terms of actual real world usage of an M1. The Forbes review is based on a 5 day realworld usage of the machine, the PCMag review is specifically related to if buyers of existing mac machines should upgrade to an M1. This cannot be compared to the Forbes review because it's context is entirely different. Also, the PCMage review is very pro supportive towards Apple and the M1, hence why there has been no outcry about it in this forum.
 
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