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Fortnite to Return to iOS in Europe Following App Store Changes
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Called that a long time ago! LOL @ everyone who thought the EU crap was going to be pro-consumer.
They need to be seen as credible to somebody; not necessarily to me.
There are plenty of politicians who I don’t personally think are credible, but they have groups who support them. The ongoing US presidential campaigns have featured plenty of them.
Didn't Apple kick Epic out of the Apple Developer subscription?
How does Epic want to release an App Store if they don't have a developer contract with Apple?
They can't even sign an app or notarize it.
How does Epic want to release an App Store if they don't have a developer contract with Apple?
They can't even sign an app or notarize it.
At its height, Fortnite had about 120 million iPhone users. Generally assuming about a quarter of these players live in EU, that's 30 million users or €14.5 million/year.
We will see if Epic thinks it can make more than that to justify avoiding App Store's new lowered 17% fee for consumable IAP.
As for whether the Core Technology Fee is BS or not, you are not exactly wrong. But at the same time, 15-30% commission Apple takes from app purchase and subscription have been subsidizing Apple's development team. So Apple probably is entitled to some fees. Apple's calculus for €0.50 per app installs above 1 million isn't entirely ridiculous, but there should be a cap.
The amount can be debated, but it’s undeniable that there are ongoing, recurring costs for the infrastructure and management of services Apple provides to apps whether they’re in the App Store or not. The data stored in iCloud, the security scans, the notarisation service they’re now introducing, the billions of push notifications sent every day. These need servers, bandwidth, and engineers to maintain/grow them. These costs grow the more an app is downloaded and used. Why shouldn’t they charge for these costs accordingly?
Got to love the hypocrisy of Sweeney. The glass is shattered throughout his house 😂
How dare Apple lock us to the App Store? If you want to play Fortnite on PC, you have to download the Epic Game Store.
How dare Apple lock us to the App Store? If you want to play Fortnite on PC, you have to download the Epic Game Store.
If Apple is not providing the app store infrastructure, why do they deserve a cut?
You bought your phone, it's yours. You're downloading an app from Epic's app store. Apple has no part in this transaction anymore.
It's the same as buying software for your computer. You buy a copy of, say, Turbo Tax, for your PC or Mac. You download it from Intuit's website, and install it. Why should Apple get a cut of that?
Apple came up with this insane concept that they need to be paid by developers to write code for some of their devices. It's a completely insane idea that took off because obviously companies want to make more money, but the reality is if you're not using Apple's infrastructure to distribute the software, Apple doesn't deserve a single penny.
You really can't trust what Apple nor Epic says. Why? Because they're corporations! (duh!)
They certainly do deserve a cut. Epic is using Apple’s development tools to create their software; they’ve also invested immense time in documenting all the APIs they’ve developed for developers (along with developing them). That’s a very large investment of which Epic is taking advantage.
So if Apple is providing infrastructure then they do get a cut? All apps are being scanned for malware. There’s the new notarisation service. Presumably apps outside the App Store can still use iCloud storage and database services. Not to mention the billions of push notifications sent every day. Servers, bandwidth, engineers. All this incurs ongoing, recurring costs. There’s more infrastructure that makes up the platform used by apps than just the App Store.
Dude got exactly what he wanted and he’s still not happy
I was under the impression that Epics' developer account was revoked. In which case: if they can't legally develop for iOS, they have no legal means of accessing the API's etc and can't get their app notarized. I hope apple blocks them. They decided to break their agreement.
Looks like they shouldn't be concerned about this though. I never saw the appeal, but apparently millions of others did and still do...
What is the Fortnite Player count in 2024?
Epic Games has added the Fortnite Player Count as a live measurement! How many people log on each month? Is Fortnite’s Player base shrinking?
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You can buy other devices with less of a markup. It’s like Ferrari owners complaining about price.
Just more money for Epic (They raised Vbucks from $7.99 to $8.99 recently btw).
The OG update back in November really helped them.Looks like they shouldn't be concerned about this though. I never saw the appeal, but apparently millions of others did and still do...
What is the Fortnite Player count in 2024?
Epic Games has added the Fortnite Player Count as a live measurement! How many people log on each month? Is Fortnite’s Player base shrinking?
Apple makes a platform that companies make money on.
Apple charges companies that make a profit on that platform to use that platform.
This is not complex or unfair.
I am concerned about having Apple decide what is and is not appropriate content to be used on the phone that I have purchased from them. Especially since they are not being consistent in their censorship.
That's why we need government intervention.
If you don't like what Apple is doing, don't buy their products. There are other options, Apple doesn't own the cell phone market.
Well then Apple should bill for these services in particular.
iCloud storage is already paid for by the end user; this shouldn't be billed for.
Notarization and malware scanning is already free on MacOS.
They could charge for push notifications though; make them free if the app is in Apple's store as an incentive. I can totally be on board with this as in this case Apple IS providing infrastructure.
But to just be able to install the app from a third-party app store on your device? Apple shouldn't get anything for that.
I buy their products because they work for me. I like pluralism. I like living in a society where there are choices.
Get one of the hundreds of phones that run android then. If the device requirements don’t meet your specs, get one that does.
That’s much better than government regulation. (But I suppose some see busting companies for doing their business legally in the job of government)