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You wouldn’t use their apps if you didn’t trust them and their choice of service providers and suppliers, would you?
Depends, and some apps that used to have more security wouldn't anymore because of switching to a 3rd party service. If I relied off a certain app and that app no longer has a more secure payment option available, I would either have to switch to another app or deal with it.
 
Apple needs all the good games it can get. They hate gamers. Gaming is a huge market without Apple. If they can't make money off them they really could care less about gaming.
According to testimony in the Epic v Apple case, Apple controls 37.5% of the global video game market (composed of console, mobile, PC and streaming).
 
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Apple needs all the good games it can get. They hate gamers. Gaming is a huge market without Apple. If they can't make money off them they really could care less about gaming.
Apple built a multi billion dollar business from casual games. Fortnite hasn’t been in the App Store for years and Apple’s revenue keeps growing. They do not even need most games to succeed as they’ve demonstrated for decades.
 
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That Core Technology Fee is BS and I hope the EU forces Apple to knock it off. We the consumers pay Apple's Core Technology Fee when we buy expensive devices at 35-45% markup. That's enough.
Laws cannot force a company to give things for free which is against the nature of business. Laws can only force them to open access. AFAIK
 
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Apple please for EU:
1. No support
2. Warranty voided
3. No Apples application availability
4. No apps store, just grey sideloaded market
5. Disconnect from iMessage and FaceTime
 
Apple please for EU:
1. No support
2. Warranty voided
3. No Apples application availability
4. No apps store, just grey sideloaded market
5. Disconnect from iMessage and FaceTime
How to shoot yourself in the foot and lose billions in sales and earnings: RigSatMe edtion.

Do you realise that Apple has complied with government regulations by changing their product or service in other and smaller markets (such as Russia and the UAE, not to mention China)? Also note that 2. voiding statutory warranty rights simply illegal if you’re selling phones (or computers, for that matter), in a European market.
 
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Seems like Epic is getting what it wants. But good for those wanting to play the game on iPhone.
 
Once again, I don’t see what the fuss is with Fortnite and Epic.

Audible and Kindle have you paying on their websites. You can’t buy anything on the apps. Pokemon Go give you discounts if you buy directing from them instead of the App Store. This list goes on. Companies have alternatives and are successfully using them.

There never was an issue. Epic is lazy.
 
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It's so odd to me that so many developers seem to think that Apple taking a cut of sales is wrong or illegal. When a company wants to sell their products in a major store like Walmart, Walmart (or any other major store) pays them far below MSRP for the products, and then sells them for double or more of the cost that they pay the company. Stores like Walmart provide a place for companies to sell their products, and they rightfully make money from it as well. Apple provides developers with an established platform to sell their apps on. Why should Apple not get a cut of it? I feel like developers complaining that they shouldn't have to share with Apple is the equivalent of a business saying that they shouldn't have to pay rent to open a store in a mall. Is there something I'm missing here? haha
 
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Stores like Walmart provide a place for companies to sell their products, and they rightfully make money from it as well. Apple provides developers with an established platform to sell their apps on. Why should Apple not get a cut of it? I feel like developers complaining that they shouldn't have to share with Apple is the equivalent of a business saying that they shouldn't have to pay rent to open a store in a mall. Is there something I'm missing here? haha
- The App Store isn’t a brick & mortar store.
- Walmart doesn’t own
- Walmart and its biggest competitor aren’t controlling 95% or more of the national - or in the case of the EU an even bigger multinational - market.
- Walmart and its biggest competitor aren’t owning 95% or more of all malls (retail space) in the country - while simultaneously competing against all the other retailers they‘re renting space.
- Walmart aren’t prohibiting every one of their suppliers from selling additional accessories directly to customers, are they?
- It doesn’t cost a consumer hundreds of Euro to change from Walmart to Costco tomorrow to buy his or her groceries.

The issue isn’t Apple taking a cut of all sales through their platform.
The issue is that they’re controlling through which platform all sales have to go through.
 
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I honestly miss Fortnite, cba to bootcamp just for a casual match or two so I hope they also make it available again for macOS
 
So, by that reasoning, should Microsoft get a cut from everything that is installable on Windows?

They could if windows had been released with an App Store right from the very start, which is why Apple is able to do what they are doing right now. Apple has never changed the rules governing their App Store, just like how Microsoft can’t change the rules at this point by trying to lock windows down and make every app go through their App Store.
 
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So the original commenter wants Apple to give their devices at cost, no margin… sure, whatever
That's certainly possible. There are many commenters who make statements that Apple's products or services should cost $X, when that cost would likely lose Apple money, even with Apple's solid to high margins. There are many people who do not understand how businesses function. I'm not saying Apple's fees are appropriate (what I believe about the issue isn't important here); what I'm concerned about are people commenting without trying to think things through.

There was a commenter the other day who suggested Apple should have a 5% fee for the App Store, or at least that such a fee wouldn't be controversial. The problem is that that fee would almost certainly lose Apple money, even with high services margins. "Well, Apple should pay for everything with what we pay for hardware!" Maybe, but as I've said for years, Apple's higher services margins allow Apple to keep hardware margins lower. Apple is not Amazon. Apple's executives value margins and have for decades.

Look at Microsoft. Microsoft is not much of a hardware company but Microsoft has gross margins of about 70%! They were "only" 62% in 2016, which was a low point for them. What about Adobe? 88% margins.

Net margins are much lower, of course, but they are also lower for Apple. Microsoft and Adobe are not Apple and Apple is neither of those companies. However, services is a high margin area. Apple keeping high services margins helps Apple make more money to develop new products. If services margins are cut, Apple will raise hardware prices. "Apple shouldn't be so greedy!" Maybe, but Apple is a company with a particular business approach. Changing it will require different leadership. Changing it also might change Apple to something unrecognizable.
 
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Dim witted bureaucrats make dumb laws and then cry when people follow the law and still try to maintain some of their perceived rights.

Oddly Fornite is still only available on my PS5 on the PS5 app store. I am sure the EU will get right on that for you know...consistency or the rule of law or something other than the market didnt do what we think it should do.
 
This has nothing to do with the App Store, as Fortnite was on iOS, and everything to do with Epic trying to make as much money as possible.
The EU laws are just corporations fighting each other though other means. If war is diplomacy through other means regulation is often market competition though other means. Just no one thinks war is generally moral but somehow people see a business getting the govt to attack their competition and bless it.
 
The EU laws are just corporations fighting each other though other means. If war is diplomacy through other means regulation is often market competition though other means. Just no one thinks war is generally moral but somehow people see a business getting the govt to attack their competition and bless it.
The competition aspect is one I find interesting here. When Apple gains market position because customers chose it (competition)...people want the EU to step in and regulate it. Meanwhile, thanks to this regulation, Google now has a possibility to monopolize web browsers...and the response I got for mentioning that yesterday was "if the customers choose it, then that was competition and consumer choice at work". Ok...and that's what happened to Apple. There were other options and the consumers CHOSE Apple. So why is it ok for consumer choice to send Google to monopoly and we just have to accept the implications of that because "the consumers chose it", but when consumer choice favored Apple, the EU had to step in and throw their weight around and **** it up? The EU has now set the precedent that consumer choice doesn't mean squat, because the consumers chose the Apple way, but the EU doesn't like the Apple way, so they felt the need to dictate ways to ruin it. So if "consumer choice" results in Google monopolizing the internet, the EU sure as heck better do something about it. If they don't...then we know their problem isn't WHAT is being done, but instead WHO is doing it.

The ******* EU has basically handed Google a monopoly on a silver platter.
 
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