When completing a workout, why does it take so long to save? Apple Workouts is instant, but YR sometimes takes a minute or two and I get nervous I am going to lose my workout.
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It's also a mystery for me ...
I use the normal API to save data at the end of the workout.
My guess:
- Apple stores less GPS points for the same workout
- Apple has some private APIs that perform incremental saves during the workout
I am also doing some "backup" tasks in case of HealthKit failure. Apple doesn't do that, but it doesn't cost a lot.
If you do interval training, the new way to do it internally is to divide the workout into separate activities, and it's way longer to save at the end. I have seen that another workout app developer has raised the same issue on Stackoverflow.
I have a question for people who have installed the last release: are the Watch complications working ?
I use the normal API to save data at the end of the workout.
My guess:
- Apple stores less GPS points for the same workout
- Apple has some private APIs that perform incremental saves during the workout
I am also doing some "backup" tasks in case of HealthKit failure. Apple doesn't do that, but it doesn't cost a lot.
If you do interval training, the new way to do it internally is to divide the workout into separate activities, and it's way longer to save at the end. I have seen that another workout app developer has raised the same issue on Stackoverflow.
I have a question for people who have installed the last release: are the Watch complications working ?
The 'this week' and 'this month' complications both show this week.
I have an app in the App Store that acts like a bike computer.. It got Sherlocked with the last iOS release.. Anyhow, this is on iPhone.. But, using CoreData, if you record a record say each second, there is no lag or wait time at the end.
I was also for a while recording using CloudKit, which records to iCloud live in realtime.. But that absolutely crushes battery on an iPhone. I opened a ticket with Apple and they told me that's expected.. I was better off storing to CloudKit at the end only.
My suggestion then would be to use CoreData and store a record each second. I had a Timer running and every second, whatever was in the buffer got recorded. Zero wait time at the end of the ride and I didn't notice any change in battery performance.
Another minor observation regarding voice alerts. I think this is just a translation issue, but when using intervals, the voiceovers at the start of an internal are not quite right.
Example
'Recovery during 500 meters' should be 'Recover for 500 meters'
'Work during 500 meters' should be 'Work for 500 meters'
Notice recover instead of recovery and for instead of during. Hope this helps.
Example
'Recovery during 500 meters' should be 'Recover for 500 meters'
'Work during 500 meters' should be 'Work for 500 meters'
Notice recover instead of recovery and for instead of during. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the suggestion, as English is not my native language, there are probably a lot fo similar mistakes.
I will fix that in the next release.
I use Coredata as backup while running. It's super fast, the issue is not there.
To record the workout, I use HealthKit API.
With this API, you don't have the choice, you record workout samples while running (distance, heartrate ...), you also add the GPS positions with a routebuilder. This part is smooth.
At the end, I need to finish the workout to save it to HealthKit.
It's fast, except when I call the method to finish the route (GPS positions): it takes a while, but I can't change that as it's just a call to an Apple method...
And now the Activity split of the workouts is also taking longer when you have a lot of segments ...
Ah, interesting. I hadn't put the code in yet to support HealthKit. I didn't realize that was where the slowdown is. Have you thought of opening a ticket with Apple on this ? Might be interesting to see if there is another way to do this to speed it up.
I put a lot of FB, but I rarely get a response.
HealthKit has a reputation of slowness, but it's the only way to create workouts that integrate well in Apple ecosystem.
One remark, YouRace tells the workout is recorded when it's actually fully recorded.
I am not sure Apple workout stock app does the same. It probably finishes in the background.
I could do that, but I think it's better for confidence to say it's saved when it's actually saved.
HealthKit has a reputation of slowness, but it's the only way to create workouts that integrate well in Apple ecosystem.
One remark, YouRace tells the workout is recorded when it's actually fully recorded.
I am not sure Apple workout stock app does the same. It probably finishes in the background.
I could do that, but I think it's better for confidence to say it's saved when it's actually saved.
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What is cadence tracking ?
Getting back to the time it takes to update HealthKit, I wonder if maybe Apple isn't doing this in the cloud.. They just upload the raw data and it doesn't get calculated until later. Which might explain why sometimes you finish a run and it doesn't appear on other devices until later..
Getting back to the time it takes to update HealthKit, I wonder if maybe Apple isn't doing this in the cloud.. They just upload the raw data and it doesn't get calculated until later. Which might explain why sometimes you finish a run and it doesn't appear on other devices until later..
You can always ask. But I am authorized to decide 😉
As always, I want to keep a good balance between no setting and too much settings !
Every runner has specific needs, and it’s hard to satisfy everyone without bloating the app, bringing more complexity, more bugs, more tests …
As always, I want to keep a good balance between no setting and too much settings !
Every runner has specific needs, and it’s hard to satisfy everyone without bloating the app, bringing more complexity, more bugs, more tests …
Understood. ;-)
Speaking of bugs, two mornings in a row, I have opened your app on my AWU and Intervals is not enabled on the watch. It is in my phone. I can create intervals. But when I open the watch, the option is not there. I deleted the app on my watch and reinstalled it yesterday and it was fine. This morning, same thing. I haven't removed it in case you wanted to debug it.
The option to buy on my watch is there and I can buy it.. So somehow the watch is out of sync with the phone ? Not sure how you are detecting if I have a paid for the Pro version or not. Let me know if you need anything to help diagnose.
Speaking of bugs, two mornings in a row, I have opened your app on my AWU and Intervals is not enabled on the watch. It is in my phone. I can create intervals. But when I open the watch, the option is not there. I deleted the app on my watch and reinstalled it yesterday and it was fine. This morning, same thing. I haven't removed it in case you wanted to debug it.
The option to buy on my watch is there and I can buy it.. So somehow the watch is out of sync with the phone ? Not sure how you are detecting if I have a paid for the Pro version or not. Let me know if you need anything to help diagnose.
If Intervals menu is not showing, it's probably because the watch has "lost" the in-app purchase activation.
In this case, you should have a "Purchases" menu at the bottom of the main menu.
You can reactivate the purchase by "buying" the app again on the watch. Don't be afraid it's free.
It will sync again your in-app purchases from App Store
In this case, you should have a "Purchases" menu at the bottom of the main menu.
You can reactivate the purchase by "buying" the app again on the watch. Don't be afraid it's free.
It will sync again your in-app purchases from App Store
Very odd. When I look at my purchase history inside Settings on my phone, I do not see YouRace. But I remember buying it.. But I also remember buying it when I was running a version from TestFlight. Anyhow, I bought it "again" and still no "Plan" option in the menu and the buy option is gone. So I deleted the app from my watch and reinstalled and all is good.
But, then I went into the app again and started to configure screens etc.. And now "Plan" is no longer there. And the buy option is not there either..
But, then I went into the app again and started to configure screens etc.. And now "Plan" is no longer there. And the buy option is not there either..
Trail mode is part of Pro version
I don’t have the code in front of me, I will check later and give you some update.
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Could you check if « advanced screen » is ON in settings of the watch app.
If it’s off, you won’t see race and plans as these activities require the second screen to be useful.
I don’t have the code in front of me, I will check later and give you some update.
Edit:
Could you check if « advanced screen » is ON in settings of the watch app.
If it’s off, you won’t see race and plans as these activities require the second screen to be useful.