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Frequently Asked Questions About NVIDIA PC (non-EFI) Graphics Cards

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flowrider said:
Well, I just updated - System build is (17C89) not the (17C88) I expected, and of course the Nvidia web driver does not work
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What the heck is Apple doing with these build number changes????????

Lou
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Thanks for the heads up Flowrider! This is another reason why I want to figure out the terminal method. We can know if the web driver work or not before reboot.

It’s not just a non Mac EFI GPU thing, but much more safe to keep the Mac working properly.
 
Now that's probably well beyond what the Mac Pro can handle - in terms of CPU/RAM/PCi/etc bottlenecks. On paper, a 1080Ti kills a 980Ti. In real life, on Davinci Resolve (CUDA friendly), there's hardly any difference between those two.
 
The gamers are freaking out over the titan V. They all thought it was going to be the best gaming card ever and are now walking around like lost puppies at this card that is not meant for them and they don't know what to say do or think.
 
owbp said:
Btw, anyone know of the alternative to Flat Package Editor?
I've extracted Distribution file from WebDriver, edited OS req, but FPE won't run in High Sierra... Didn't know that up until now.
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Completely my own fault for not reading the first post of this topic, where there were still hardware restrictions for WebDriver. The same can be done for software restrictions, with pkgutil, throught Terminal instead with Flat Package Editor...

As a test, i've forced Yosemite driver to run in High Sierra
Screen Shot 2017-12-08 at 7.01.12 PM.png
So, yes, it can be easily be done (OS update) without screen sharing or swapping cards.
Just to figure out how to disable SIP again with just non flashed Nvidia GPU, haha...
 
owbp said:
Completely my own fault for not reading the first post of this topic, where there were still hardware restrictions for WebDriver. The same can be done for software restrictions, with pkgutil, throught Terminal instead with Flat Package Editor...

As a test, i've forced Yosemite driver to run in High Sierra
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So, yes, it can be easily be done (OS update) without screen sharing or swapping cards.
Just to figure out how to disable SIP again with just non flashed Nvidia GPU, haha...
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Yeah, just typing my post to share how I did it. You beat me :D

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I completed the OS update + web driver installation (require text edit) at once. And after first reboot, everything work as expected.

N.B. This first reboot will take longer than usual because of the system update process. But on my SATA SSD, it’s something between 3-5 minutes (I didn’t time it properly).
[doublepost=1512760286][/doublepost]And it’s interesting that after the first 10.13.2 update. If I run the softwareuodate check again, 10.13.2 will show up again (this is expected because the system still consider 10.13.1), but with different size.
[doublepost=1512760353][/doublepost]And Appstore confirmed that update still available. But I didn’t run it again. I am now with 17C88. I worried about the 2nd one is 17C89.
 
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In fact, with this “text edit” method, I suspect we can even a bit lazier. e.g.

1) download and text edit the web driver installer.

2) install the web driver (DO NOT reboot)

3) set nvda_drv=1 in terminal

4) update OS normally in AppStore

But this is totally hypothetical,
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William Payne said:
What kext edit? what is going on? I haven't had any issues updating or anything.
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Text edit, not Kext edit.

We are talking about how to update the OS without assist from Mac EFI, another graphic card, and screen sharing.
 
h9826790 said:
In fact, with this “text edit” method, I suspect we can even a bit lazier. e.g.

1) download and text edit the web driver installer.

2) install the web driver (DO NOT reboot)

3) set nvda_drv=1 in terminal

4) update OS normally in AppStore

But this is totally hypothetical,
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Text edit, not Kext edit.

We are talking about how to update the OS without assist from Mac EFI, another graphic card, and screen sharing.
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Oh ok, ignore me then.
 
Well here I sit with an almost unusable Mac. It's been way over 24 hours since 17C89 was released, and still no web driver from Nvidia:mad: This is all Apple's fault. Conspiracy Theory - They're trying to make it tougher for Nvidia and guys like us who load up their cMPs with non Apple branded stuff and keep their equipment past it's prime. This multiple build nos. for the same OS release is just plain stupid.

All Apple is doing is really pissing me off. I've been a Mac user since 1986, but with this, my patience is wearing thin:oops:

Lou
 
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flowrider said:
Well here I sit with an almost unusable Mac. It's been way over 24 hours since 17C89 was released, and still no web driver from Nvidia:mad: This is all Apple's fault. Conspiracy Theory - They're trying to make it tougher for Nvidia and guys like us who load up their cMPs with non Apple branded stuff and keep their equipment past it's prime. This multiple build nos. for the same OS release is just plain stupid.

All Apple is doing is really pissing me off. I've been a Mac user since 1986, but with this, my patience is wearing thin:oops:

Lou
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Um, my web driver has already updated. No new cuda yet though. Yes I'm on the latest .2 update.
[doublepost=1512771871][/doublepost]http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/127670/en-us

Everything running smooth here.

What's this about multiple build numbers?
 
flowrider said:
Well here I sit with an almost unusable Mac. It's been way over 24 hours since 17C89 was released, and still no web driver from Nvidia:mad: This is all Apple's fault. Conspiracy Theory - They're trying to make it tougher for Nvidia and guys like us who load up their cMPs with non Apple branded stuff and keep their equipment past it's prime. This multiple build nos. for the same OS release is just plain stupid.

All Apple is doing is really pissing me off. I've been a Mac user since 1986, but with this, my patience is wearing thin:oops:

Lou
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Do you want to try to force install the web driver that’s for 17C88 on your 17C89 build? My feeling is that will work. No idea where this different build number coming from. But I just did my update few hours ago, way after your update, but still only get 17C88. That should not be any major different between these 2 build.

Any if the web driver doesn’t work on your build, there still no different then your current situation. Shouldn’t go worse.
 
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William Payne said:
Um, my web driver has already updated. No new cuda yet though. Yes I'm on the latest .2 update.
[doublepost=1512771871][/doublepost]http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/127670/en-us

Everything running smooth here.

What's this about multiple build numbers?
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Your link is for the 17C88 driver. New Cuda Driver just out:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-387.99-driver.html

Multiple build nos., do some reading! - Post Nos. 4172 thru 4174.

Lou
 
Just curious.
I just updated to MacOS 10.13.2 and of course the Nividia GPU drivers had to be updated. I have a question related to CUDA and Nvidia Graphics Driver updates. Almost every time we get a MacOS update it breaks the Nvidia drivers and CUDA drivers. The CUDA fix always follows behind the main driver update about a week after. Why aren't the CUDA drivers build into the Nvidia Driver update? It would be pointless to own a Nvidia GPU with out the CUDA. So why split them up?

Note: I am running a Apple blessed Geforce GTX 680. Runs OK on OS native drivers.
 
William Payne said:
Can someone educate me on this "combo update"
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It's quite simple (and you could google it ;) ). Combo update is package that you download from Apple's website instead of update it from the App Store.
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1944?locale=en_US

I would use it for updating more than one Mac (save bandwidth) or to update Mac that is always offline for whatever reason.

EDIT: The thing i forgot to mention, Combo update (for instance 10.11.6) has in itself everything you need if you skipped few updates. So you can go directly from 10.11.1 to 10.11.6 with last El Cap Combo.
 
owbp said:
It's quite simple (and you could google it ;) ). Combo update is package that you download from Apple's website instead of update it from the App Store.
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1944?locale=en_US

I would use it for updating more than one Mac (save bandwidth) or to update Mac that is always offline for whatever reason.
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I did google it and was even more confused. Ok I can see why I didn't get effected. I do all my updates via the app store.
 
Well, I got my Mac backimages.jpeg

Update showed up in the Nvidia Control Panel. Physical download not yet on Nvidia's site. But, I used Insanely Mac's Nvidia Web Driver Updater to extract the physical package. Applied it and back to normal. Cuda is working!

Up date is 378.10.10.10.25.103.

Lou
 
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flowrider said:
Well here I sit with an almost unusable Mac. It's been way over 24 hours since 17C89 was released, and still no web driver from Nvidia:mad: This is all Apple's fault. Conspiracy Theory - They're trying to make it tougher for Nvidia and guys like us who load up their cMPs with non Apple branded stuff and keep their equipment past it's prime. This multiple build nos. for the same OS release is just plain stupid.

All Apple is doing is really pissing me off. I've been a Mac user since 1986, but with this, my patience is wearing thin:oops:

Lou
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May I know how you perform the OS update? Via AppStore? Or download the update package by yourself? It weird that it seems only you get the 17C89. I really want to know if you did something different.

After successfully upgrade to 17C88. I tried to update again, and it shows no more update available to me. So, it seems 17C89 is really purely different build number, but not an update of 17C88 (unlike the last security update).
 
I have found a new bug. Since 10.13.2 I don't get 10 Bit color properly with the newest Nvidia Web drivers (GTX Titan X Maxwell with ASUS PB279Q monitor). I i've activated 10 Bit always with SwitchRes X. This was no problem until 10.13.1.

No 10 Bit.jpg

However, with the Sapphire RX 580 10 Bit with the same monitor is no problem.
 
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