Yes, from what I've seen on various forums, iPhone users are getting push working but not desktop. A bit of a giveaway is to look at the sync menu in the MobileMe system preference where it gives the list of services and then a 'last sync' time
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Yes, from what I've seen on various forums, iPhone users are getting push working but not desktop. A bit of a giveaway is to look at the sync menu in the MobileMe system preference where it gives the list of services and then a 'last sync' time
Yes this is what I am seeing also. Though for "MobileMe ---> Mac" the sync does seem to kick off automatically and within a few seconds of updating MobileMe.
Thanks for confirming that - I've been looking over the forums but it's always good to get positive confirmation.
I'm actually finding that the sync from my mac doesn't always work:
- I have added a contact in MM and then synced. This makes the contact show up in my Address Book.
- I then delete the contact from my Address Book and sync. This should trigger the deletion of the contact from MM - it doesn't...
this isn't always the case for me - I'm using Tiger so perhaps things are slightly different.
Unfortunately same here - even when it is working relatively normally in all other departments. At the moment if I do a full sync from my mac to mobileme changes to iCal still don't show up on the cloud and trying to delete an event on the cloud returns a 'server error'.
For me it seems to be working like this
iPhone ---> MobileMe = push
MobileMe ---> iPhone = push
Mac ---> MobileMe = sync
MobileMe ---> Mac = push
iPhone ---> MobileMe = push
MobileMe ---> iPhone = push
Mac ---> MobileMe = sync
MobileMe ---> Mac = push
I find the same is true. Mail comes in -- boom -- right to my iPod touch and me.com account. Calendars and contacts longer.
The epic fail continues....
At WWDC Steve himself demo'd changing a calendar event on an iMac and then showed it appearing within a few seconds on the iPhone. Reality Distortion Field in full effect.
Straight from the Apple link provided by the OP: "Changes made on your computer will be synced to the MobileMe "cloud" once every 15 minutes (or every hour in Mac OS X 10.4.11)"
Over advertising and underperforming. I, for one, won't be renewing my "MobileMeh...." subscription.
At WWDC Steve himself demo'd changing a calendar event on an iMac and then showed it appearing within a few seconds on the iPhone. Reality Distortion Field in full effect.
Straight from the Apple link provided by the OP: "Changes made on your computer will be synced to the MobileMe "cloud" once every 15 minutes (or every hour in Mac OS X 10.4.11)"
Over advertising and underperforming. I, for one, won't be renewing my "MobileMeh...." subscription.
Steve didn't demo MobileMe, Phil Shiller did, and he never used the desktop apps...only Me.com, which does work.
Either way, I agree with you, the marketing and the Apple Website say otherwise, and this is a sham, or it simply didn't work like they hopped.
Can you give a bit more info on your mobileme to mac push? For example, I added a contact in my address book via the cloud, but it didn't 'push' to the mac, it only appeared on my mac 12 minutes later when the mac sync'd with the cloud. Can you do a trial and see what happens (noting to see whether the appearance of the change ties in with the sync time in the mobileme system preference panel)?
EDIT: I also notice that my mac doesn't sync once every 15 minutes as stated it should by Apple, but about every 20 to 25 minutes. Does this mean if server traffic is particularly heavy even syncing is going to be erratic?
I have to admit I'm a little disappointed - heck I can't even get the Mobile Me patch on my machine!
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When I add a calendar entry via cloud, the sync on MacBook (Leopard 10.5.4) kicks off right away. I also updated iSync preferences not to give warning if more than 5% of data is changing.
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When I add a calendar entry via cloud, the sync on MacBook (Leopard 10.5.4) kicks off right away. I also updated iSync preferences not to give warning if more than 5% of data is changing.
This isn't happening for me - I have to sync to get cloud data back onto my mac. I'm using Tiger so perhaps it works differently.
That's interesting - are you sure it is a sync triggered by mobileme rather than the mac's automatic periodic sync? At the moment I am not getting any syncs being triggered from the cloud, whatever I do, only automatic, periodic syncs instigated by the mac.
Can anyone think of why they would make it like this? It doesn't make sense to me. They developed the push feature for the iPhone, which is mini-OSX. How hard would it be to translate that to the desktop? If the iPhone can handle it, certainly so can the Mac. Hmmmmmmmm
Yeah I am definitely sure the sync on the Macbook is triggered by the MobileMe update. Just tested again adding a couple of entries. Each time the sync would kick off right away on the Macbook. Now if this same thing would occur going from the Macbook to MobileMe, I would be happy.
EDIT: Same behavior occurs on Address Book also.
MobileMe->Mac/PC is push, not synced...I have tested it many times and it works.
I don't find it tragic that the desktop apps dont push the information but Apple should be straight about it from the beginning. I still find MobileMe much better than .Mac and at least now I dont have to sync my iPhone all the time. Mostly I make changes on my iPhone, so it works for me!
Yes, this is what I have observed also. Update in MobileMe will kick off sync on Macbook right away. So I guess that should be considered push.
Where do you find the preferences to turn that off? It's rather annoying!
I'm the same as kdog I think, I updated my calender in me.com... and within seconds it was updating on my Macbook (well, warning me that more than 5% needs changing!).
Again, within seconds a contact was also updated. This only really did it after I got the .Mac --> MobileMe update though I think.
It sounds to me that Apple just didn't have enough time to finish all that they wanted to do. No doubt Steve wants everything to be Push.
But let's look for a second at how MobileMe on the desktop is currently working:
- The behavior in my mind is a lot like TimeMachine:
1) it's looking at all of those items on the list of checkboxes in MM prefs
2) Compares that to the server
3) works out changes
4) Uploads
there's quite a bit of overhead in those steps, especially when including Keychain, Dock, Dashboard, etc.
My guess is that for a complete Push solution, those transactions would need to be made at the Application level, similar to how Mail does IMAP, with each press of the delete key on a message it communicates with the server.
Similarly, for iCal, those server transactions would need to be built in to the application itself...Which I would imagine would take a fair amount of work.
Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm not justifying it. I would expect a Push to be less than 1 minute, not 15 like it currently is. But I also don't want my computer to be processing changes for ALL of those little checkboxes every 30 seconds or whatever.
But let's look for a second at how MobileMe on the desktop is currently working:
- The behavior in my mind is a lot like TimeMachine:
1) it's looking at all of those items on the list of checkboxes in MM prefs
2) Compares that to the server
3) works out changes
4) Uploads
there's quite a bit of overhead in those steps, especially when including Keychain, Dock, Dashboard, etc.
My guess is that for a complete Push solution, those transactions would need to be made at the Application level, similar to how Mail does IMAP, with each press of the delete key on a message it communicates with the server.
Similarly, for iCal, those server transactions would need to be built in to the application itself...Which I would imagine would take a fair amount of work.
Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm not justifying it. I would expect a Push to be less than 1 minute, not 15 like it currently is. But I also don't want my computer to be processing changes for ALL of those little checkboxes every 30 seconds or whatever.
As far as Apple is concerned, MobileMe is the web interface. And you know what? They did a great job with it. Put Bookmark to your Me.com in the Dock and learn to use that for Calendar, Mail, and Contacts. Just because your accustomed to iCal etc. doesn't mean it's the only solution.
Have you tried closing Ical (shutting it down fully) then reopening it..... if i do that it shows the update ical event. Its strage that its seems to push it to Ical yet it deosn't show up until i restart the ical app...... Try it , is it the same for you ?
That is not the answer. I shouldn't have to change the way I do things for this to work. The whole point of the freaking thing was make it seamless - i.e. I shouldn't have to worry about it.
Use the webapp? Are you kidding me?
edit: What would make things better is if you could set the sync to be every minute, the way it is in Mail. In Mail, it doesn't push, per se, but having it pull every minute is pretty close. Waiting 15 minutes sucks, especially if you are on a laptop about to go off the grid. You have to remember to manually sync. Who knows, it could just be for whatever reason MobileMe isn't triggering to the Mac/PC correctly. Maybe it can be fixed.