Galaxy Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus for the next two years?

[mKTank]

I get my information from both PhoneArena and GSMArena, all 3 (Anandtech incl.) use various ways of testing and 2 of the 3 have the Note 4 as being better, lets not forget the Note 4's fast charging which obliterates the ludicrously long time it takes to charge a plus, which is confirmed by every source.

Just because you do not like it, it does not make it 'misinformation'.

Sorry, Anandtech's method is the only one done scientifically, setting same brightness settings, same device settings, etc. and has the most developed platform-agnostic script for testing. PhoneArena and GSMArena are good for getting specs but their methods of testing are NOT as credible.

If you're really going to try to say that Anandtech is biased or wrong in any way about any of their testing methods, then you just zero'd your credibility.

It is hilarious though how much the 6 Plus just obliterates the Note 4 in performance benchmarks despite having half (or quarter if you're looking at the international versions) the cores, half the clock speeds, and a third of the RAM. Talk about resources used intelligently.


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My 6 plus with the 12 watt iPad charger - goes from 50% - 100% in about an hour. Strangely despite it's bigger battery (than the 6) I find for me it charges in about same time frame ?

My Galaxy alpha can go from 10-20% to fully charged in about 60 minutes. Very fast at charging, but then it only has a 1800mah battery.

How long out of interest does a Note 4 takes to charge ?

Yep they reported it charges quite a bit faster with the iPad charger. The 6 Plus takes around 2 hours with the iPad charger. Note 4 takes 1.76 hours according to Anandtech.

Yes, that extra 15 minutes is all it takes to gloat about fast charging, apparently.

 

[Tsepz]

My 6 plus with the 12 watt iPad charger - goes from 50% - 100% in about an hour. Strangely despite it's bigger battery (than the 6) I find for me it charges in about same time frame ?

My Galaxy alpha can go from 10-20% to fully charged in about 60 minutes. Very fast at charging, but then it only has a 1800mah battery.

How long out of interest does a Note 4 takes to charge ?

The Note 4 with its out-the-box charger does around 0-50% in 30mins, and in total takes around 90mins to do a full charge, that is from 0-100%, as it changes voltage, the final stretch from 95-100% is the longest. Take note the Note 4 has a massive 3220mAh cell to fill up.

Sorry, Anandtech's method is the only one done scientifically, setting same brightness settings, same device settings, etc. and has the most developed script for testing. PhoneArena and GSMArena are good for getting specs but their method of testing is NOT as credible.

Sorry, but if you're really going to try to say that Anandtech is biased or wrong in any way about anything they ever do, then you just zero'd your credibility.

It is hilarious though how much the 6 Plus just obliterates the Note 4 in performance benchmarks despite having half (or quarter if you're looking at the international versions) the cores, half the clock speeds, and a third of the RAM. Talk about resources used intelligently.


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Yep they reported it charges quite a bit faster with the iPad charger.

Both GSMArena and PhoneArena also ensure similar settings and device setup
From GSMArena:

The first test is the talk time test, which measures how long it takes to deplete the battery by making voice calls. Bearing in mind that most screens automatically turn off during a call, we've made sure our set up accounts for this. We close all applications which may further strain the battery, too.
The web browsing test is performed using an automated script which reloads a webpage every ten seconds. There are no flash elements on the web pages, so the playing field is even. The brightness of the phones' displays is set to 50% and we use a Wireless N router placed a few meters away to get full connectivity bars.
In our video playback test we measure how long it takes for a device to run its fully charged battery down to 10%, while looping a standard-definition video. We stop at 10% since most devices shut their video players at this point. The display is again set to 50%, and all radios on the device are switched off (Airplane mode).
Finally, our overall longevity rating gives you an idea of how much battery backup you can get on a single charge. A score of 40h means that you'll need to fully charge once every 40 hours if you do one hour of 3G calls, one hour of video playback and one hour of web browsing daily. Essentially, it's an aggregated and normalized score, which factors in the three mentioned tests along with the real-life standby power consumption, which we also measure.

It's not like they suck their thumbs and put up results.

I find it interesting that you only want to believe 1 credible source when two others say the opposite, but that is fine I should come here expecting exactly this sort of thing.

 

[mKTank]

The Note 4 with its out-the-box charger does around 0-50% in 30mins, and in total takes around 90mins to do a full charge, that is from 0-100%, as it changes voltage, the final stretch from 95-100% is the longest. Take note the Note 4 has a massive 3220mAh cell to fill up.



Both GSMArena and PhoneArena also ensure similar settings and device setup
From GSMArena:


It's not like they suck their thumbs and put up results.

I find it interesting that you only want to believe 1 credible source when two others say the opposite, but that is fine I should come here expecting exactly this sort of thing.

Sorry, their scripts are still far from platform-agnostic (I love the hilarious mention of 'oh there's no flash so it's an even test'...are they serious? There's no Flash support on either of these phones. Is that really how far they went to make sure it's an even fight? That's really sad), and they mention setting the brightness to 50% despite the fact that 50% on one device varies in nits from 50% on another. Video tests are another red flag due to the fact that if it is a widescreen video, then there are bars on the bottom and top and they're actively turned off in an AMOLED, which invalidates the test. There's no way to know what videos they used and so that test is totally invalid.

If these little details don't matter to you, then maybe you're not qualified to judge whether a source is credible or not. I'm still trying to stop laughing from the proposed idea that these two sites are even close to Anandtech's credibility. It's sad how low you have to dig to try to tell me that their history of device testing is anywhere near as credible and scientific as Anandtech.

 

[Tsepz]

Sorry, their scripts are still far from platform-agnostic, and they mention setting the brightness to 50% despite the fact that 50% on one device varies in nits from 50% on another. Video tests are another red flag due to the fact that if it is a widescreen video, then there are bars on the bottom and top and they're actively turned off in an AMOLED, which invalidates the test. There's no way to know what videos they used and so that test is totally invalid.

If these little details don't matter to you, then maybe you're not qualified to judge whether a source is credible or not. I'm still trying to stop laughing from the proposed idea that these two sites are even close to Anandtech's credibility. It's sad how low you have to dig to try to tell me that their history of device testing is anywhere near as credible and scientific as Anandtech.

What matters to me is that they try keep the battery tests as close to real life usage as possible.

But as I said, it is interesting that you prefer the one that votes the 6 Plus slightly better than the two that found the complete opposite and then also try ignore the advantage of faster charging and being able to switch battery, I was going to say it is laughable but it is rather sad.

 

[mKTank]

What matters to me is that they try keep the battery tests as close to real life usage as possible.

But as I said, it is interesting that you prefer the one that votes the 6 Plus slightly better than the two that found the complete opposite and then also try ignore the advantage of faster charging and being able to switch battery, I was going to say it is laughable but it is rather sad.

Except the 6 Plus charges to full in around 2 hours with an iPad charger. Note 4 charges to full in 1.76 hours. If those 15 minutes are all you have to gloat about, then I think that tells the whole story, doesn't it?

And again, those two sites you're constantly bringing up have nowhere near the same credibility as Anandtech. PhoneArena and GSMArena try to be scientific but constantly miss minor details which have the potential to massively skew a test. If you want to subscribe to their fallacious methods of testing go ahead, but your attempts to use them as sources of credible information will be promptly dismissed.

 

[Tsepz]

Except the 6 Plus charges to full in around 2 hours with an iPad charger. Note 4 charges to full in 1.76 hours. If those 15 minutes are all you have to gloat about, then I think that tells the whole story, doesn't it?

Not everyone who has a 6 Plus has an iPad charger lying around.

And again, those two sites you're constantly bringing up have nowhere near the same credibility as Anandtech. PhoneArena and GSMArena try to be scientific but constantly miss minor details which have the potential to massively skew a test. If you want to subscribe to their fallacious methods of testing go ahead, but your attempts to use them as sources of credible information will be promptly dismissed.

What are these minor details they miss?

 

[mKTank]

Not everyone who has a 6 Plus has an iPad charger lying around.



What are these minor details they miss?

The point is fast charging is there if you need it.

I already described some of these points in earlier posts, do your own homework.

 

[Tsepz]

The point is fast charging is there if you need it.

I already described some of these points in earlier posts, do your own homework.

But it is not there out the box, invalidating your point.

If those are your only reasons then I see no major reason to discredit PhoneArena and GSMArena just because they don't fully agree with AnandTech on every point.

 

[mKTank]

But it is not there out the box, invalidating your point.

If those are your only reasons then I see no major reason to discredit PhoneArena and GSMArena just because they don't fully agree with AnandTech on every point.

And that's why you should stop trying to argue with defunct sources. You can't even tell the difference between credible and not.

Also lol "nexus 4 didn't come with qi charger so it doesn't support wireless charging."

 

[Tsepz]

And that's why you should stop trying to argue with defunct sources. You can't even tell the difference between credible and not.

Also lol "nexus 4 didn't come with qi charger so it doesn't support wireless charging."

Just because you don't like their results and they don't fit your own little criteria doesn't make them any less credible.

Nobody said the 6 Plus doesn't support fast charge, but it doesn't have it out-the-box one has to own an iPad charger, while the Note 4 out-the-box has it.

 

[mKTank]

Just because you don't like their results and they don't fit your own little criteria doesn't make them any less credible.

Nobody said the 6 Plus doesn't support fast charge, but it doesn't have it out-the-box one has to own an iPad charger, while the Note 4 out-the-box has it.

Alright we should stop now. It's clear that you don't care about the little details of testing methods so I don't see why you keep talking about it. Also, if I can afford a 900 dollar phone, odds are I can shell out 21 dollars for fast charging if I care enough about it (which I personally don't because I've never had to charge my phone more than once every two days). So in essence, you enjoy your phone and I'll enjoy mine...

 

[Tsepz]

Alright we should stop now. It's clear that you don't care about the little details of testing methods so I don't see why you keep talking about it. Also, if I can afford a 900 dollar phone, odds are I can shell out 21 dollars for fast charging if I care enough about it (which I personally don't because I've never had to charge my phone more than once every two days). So in essence, you enjoy your phone and I'll enjoy mine...

Of course you don't care for it, as you have to say that to make your point valid.

For a heavy user like me who tends to sometimes forget to charge my phone its great to have, 30mins of charging and I am at 50% and can walk out knowing it will last an entire day.

Indeed, enjoy yours and I'll enjoy mine.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Except the 6 Plus charges to full in around 2 hours with an iPad charger. Note 4 charges to full in 1.76 hours. If those 15 minutes are all you have to gloat about, then I think that tells the whole story, doesn't it?

And again, those two sites you're constantly bringing up have nowhere near the same credibility as Anandtech. PhoneArena and GSMArena try to be scientific but constantly miss minor details which have the potential to massively skew a test. If you want to subscribe to their fallacious methods of testing go ahead, but your attempts to use them as sources of credible information will be promptly dismissed.

I'll take the excellent battery life on the 6 plus over the faster charging and replaceable battery.

 

[I7guy]

I get my information from both PhoneArena and GSMArena, all 3 (Anandtech incl.) use various ways of testing and 2 of the 3 have the Note 4 as being better, lets not forget the Note 4's fast charging which obliterates the ludicrously long time it takes to charge a plus, which is confirmed by every source.

Just because you do not like it, it does not make it 'misinformation'.

Then we ought to stop posting opinions and real situations and quote website links. Right? Their "analysis" trumps my real life experience.

From here on in we should post links and forget about reality.

 

[mKTank]

I'll take the excellent battery life on the 6 plus over the faster charging and replaceable battery.

Yep, same here.

 

[I7guy]

Of course you don't care for it, as you have to say that to make your point valid.

For a heavy user like me who tends to sometimes forget to charge my phone its great to have, 30mins of charging and I am at 50% and can walk out knowing it will last an entire day.

Indeed, enjoy yours and I'll enjoy mine.

I could care less out of the box, I jave 4 iPad chargers in the house, I'll be enjoying then just fine with the i6 I just bought.

 

[Tsepz]

Then we ought to stop posting opinions and real situations and quote website links. Right? Their "analysis" trumps my real life experience.

From here on in we should post links and forget about reality.

LOL, If that is what you take from all I have said then go ahead, but you have well and truly misunderstood it all.

I could care less out of the box, I jave 4 iPad chargers in the house, I'll be enjoying then just fine with the i6 I just bought.

If only every single 6 and 6 Plus user had the same setup, pity not all do.

 

[I7guy]

LOL, If that is what you take from all I have said then go ahead, but you have well and truly misunderstood it all.



If only every single 6 and 6 Plus user had the same setup, pity not all do.

Maybe I didn't misunderstand anything.

Also even a $70k tesla has to be plugged in. I mean I can't believe how inconvenient it is to drive those cars. Pity it is. So if a tesla has to be plugged in, I'll deal with getting an iPad charger...going to need a case anyway. Yep a real pity and hardship.

 

[mKTank]

The iPad charger costs less than the taxes you pay for the phone. I'm not seeing why getting one is so financially problematic.

Does make for one heck of an argument though, right?

 

[Tsepz]

The iPad charger costs less than the taxes you pay for the phone. I'm not seeing why getting one is so financially problematic.

Does make for one heck of an argument though, right?

Lol one could use the same argument WRT just buying a 2nd battery for a Note 4, not even having to wait for a charge, switching wherever you are, even if we use AnandTech results, you get similar results to 6 Plus with the benefit of not having to plug-in. We could go on and on.

At the end of the day the Note 4 has the better battery life with the benefit of fast charge without having to go buy another charger.

 

[mi7chy]

I'll take the excellent battery life on the 6 plus over the faster charging and replaceable battery.

6+ has inferior battery life.

http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

View in desktop mode if mobile doesn't work.

 

[I7guy]

Lol one could use the same argument WRT just buying a 2nd battery for a Note 4, not even having to wait for a charge, switching wherever you are, even if we use AnandTech results, you get similar results to 6 Plus with the benefit of not having to plug-in. We could go on and on.

At the end of the day the Note 4 has the better battery life with the benefit of fast charge without having to go buy another charger.

Yes that's the fact, only a dyed in the wool fanboy cares about that type of a difference. But you're right, that is what anandtech says.

 

[mKTank]

6+ has inferior battery life.

http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

View in desktop mode if mobile doesn't work.

GSMArena isn't nearly as credible as Anandtech, and Anandtech shows that the 6 Plus has almost 2 hours on the Note 4 for Wi-Fi browsing. Next time, don't pick an amateur-conducted test to try to prove a point.

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Lol one could use the same argument WRT just buying a 2nd battery for a Note 4, not even having to wait for a charge, switching wherever you are, even if we use AnandTech results, you get similar results to 6 Plus with the benefit of not having to plug-in. We could go on and on.

At the end of the day the Note 4 has the better battery life with the benefit of fast charge without having to go buy another charger.

I could also buy a portable charger that could charge my phone several times. I really don't see how you think you're making good arguments here. This is about charge times and you go ahead and bring up extra batteries? You know your argument is terrible when...

 

[Tsepz]

6+ has inferior battery life.

http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

View in desktop mode if mobile doesn't work.

Large margin just like in the PhoneArena battery test, guess it is a hard pill to swallow for the 6 Plus fans, they must clutch straws.

 

[mi7chy]

GSMArena isn't nearly as credible as Anandtech, and Anandtech shows that the 6 Plus has almost 2 hours on the Note 4 for Wi-Fi browsing. Next time, don't pick an amateur-conducted test to try to prove a point.

Anandtech works for Apple so nobody goes there for unbiased one-dimensional info compared to Gsmarena that's unbiased and broken down in detail to three areas and an overall score.